Puzzle and Dragon Ball Z - Episode 10

[commandercool]

The last floor of Mars Crater wrecks my shit right now. I've been stuck on it for like ten days. The huge HP, Valkyrie-resisting dragons that can one-shot me are too much for my team. I try every couple of days and can usually almost clear the ninth floor before I die. I think a decent red Valkyrie friend would do it, but I've consistently failed to find one.

[Chaore]

Ultimate Raphael manages to be even more of a Gundam than before.

Judging by the artworks, Raphael got the Physical subtype while Gabriel got the Healer subtype.

I'm gonna be really sad if Raphael isn't a Healer on his uvo, like really sad.

Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.

Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v

[hyorinryu]

Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.

Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v

I was hoping for healer with a blue sub-type and row boost

[Chaore]

I was hoping for healer with a blue sub-type and row boost

Physical can atleast use Thor however, which makes it extremely less pathetic, and has stronger and more useful leads overall. There's even a light physical heartbreaker with a row, unlike valk, that Raphael can combo with. Also it has the ninja.

Healer doesn't really have anything really great for Raphael to play with, and slotting Valk lowers your already pathetic row count because 'hahaha light/blue rows is cool on a leader right?' Light healer is dead, etc- Two-prong probably won't save it but I haven't checked.

Mind you, the real dream for light would be Thor going Attacker on his new ulti.

or l/d attacker two-prong lucifer come on gungho make him worth something again PLEASE jesus fuck

Edit: and by more useful leads i mostly mean tamadrapurin can solo like everyone except maybe DQXQ but she's probably better not building as a healer.

[Edible]

As far as light healers go, Venus and Light Zhuge Liang have two-prong, and that's it.

Unless we get a Light/Blue Healer Ronia, light row enhance is never going to be a thing anyway.

[Chaore]

As far as light healers go, Venus and Light Zhuge Liang have two-prong, and that's it.

Unless we get a Light/Blue Healer Ronia, light row enhance is never going to be a thing anyway.

Sonia would be one light row. This would fix nothing.

Sonia's bigger strength is skill boost than sheer row. Also her active being broken.

Also it'd be L/D.

Edit: Also she should be attacker.

NuThor(prediction)/Belial/Arthur/Athena/Lonia/NuThor. 8 rows, Sonia active, orb enhance and norse enhance. Also too much skill boost.

[hyorinryu]

Physical can atleast use Thor however, which makes it extremely less pathetic, and has stronger and more useful leads overall. There's even a light physical heartbreaker with a row, unlike valk, that Raphael can combo with. Also it has the ninja.

Healer doesn't really have anything really great for Raphael to play with, and slotting Valk lowers your already pathetic row count because 'hahaha light/blue rows is cool on a leader right?' Light healer is dead, etc- Two-prong probably won't save it but I haven't checked.

Mind you, the real dream for light would be Thor going Attacker on his new ulti.

or l/d attacker two-prong lucifer come on gungho make him worth something again PLEASE jesus fuck

Edit: and by more useful leads i mostly mean tamadrapurin can solo like everyone except maybe DQXQ but she's probably better not building as a healer.

You seem to be assuming I want light row team with him. I just want an I&I sub because I have Siren and that's it.  It would be nice if I didn't need to a completely REM team to use Raph too. Partricia and Valkytie is part of the battle tournament collab though. Should we take that in to consideration? Not that we won't ever get it, we don't really have a time for it either.

Sonia would be one light row. This would fix nothing.

Sonia's bigger strength is skill boost than sheer row. Also her active being broken.

Also it'd be L/D.

Edit: Also she should be attacker.

NuThor(prediction)/Belial/Arthur/Athena/Lonia/NuThor. 8 rows, Sonia active, orb enhance and norse enhance. Also too much skill boost.

There's also the chance that Light Sonia, should she ever exist could be god type instead. .That's a thing too.

[Edible]

There's also the chance that Light Sonia, should she ever exist could be god type instead. .That's a thing too.

Dragon God Light Sonia already exists, it's called avalon drake :V

[hyorinryu]

Dragon God Light Sonia already exists, it's called avalon drake :V

AD doesn't count. He's not dark and he doesn't have any light rows.

[Chaore]

You seem to be assuming I want light row team with him. I just want an I&I sub because I have Siren and that's it.  It would be nice if I didn't need to a completely REM team to use Raph too. Partricia and Valkytie is part of the battle tournament collab though. Should we take that in to consideration? Not that we won't ever get it, we don't really have a time for it either.

I hate to break it to you, but row teams have always and probably essentially always will be mostly REM, and that's the god damn future now.

...also light row is what he HAS. He's not going to get a new awakening since none of the other angels have, especially not the one that desperately needed it.

also that sounds ridiculously awful, jesus. Especially since Siren is likely to be replaced by Gabriel now, and while he might have beaten siren out do to how silly a full board might be that... He's much better as light physical by far, especially if you only have siren, what.

Also no because whether or not we'll ever get that does not factor into the overwhelming meta, ultimately, and collab monsters definitely are included in the meta.

Light sonia being god would be pretty sad, but see edible. It'd be strange to flat out obsolete Avalon drake and not do something new.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.

Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v

My problem is more of the fact that Raphael is the Archangel of HEALING, and even his active skill (Miracle of Healing) reflects this, plus it would essentially kill everything I've been working on to get a valk to work him into a valk team.

I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.

[Chaore]

My problem is more of the fact that Raphael is the Archangel of HEALING, and even his active skill (Miracle of Healing) reflects this, plus it would essentially kill everything I've been working on to get a valk to work him into a valk team.

I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.

Noah is an anime girl.

[Mr. Sacchi]

And Metatron has sex hair, yes I know. ):

Also, confirmed new dragon-type monster.

Yes that is a joke.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.msg1104944.html#msg1104944

I didn't go in depth into how amazing Raphael is here for nothin'.

Even if he doesn't get healer, there are still possibilities, trust me.

[The Greatest Dog]

I'd be pretty hype about Physical Raphael as someone who wants to use Takeminakata/TAMADRApurin/Sakuya/BT Valkyrie/Raphael eventually.
Of course, that requires me to get a Raphael...

[Mr. Sacchi]

Well, if he does get Physical Sub-type then I guess I can work with the Siegfried team (Since I already have him thanks to Horus Shenanigans) though getting the fruit dragon is going to be a bit of a pain (wouldn't it be counter-productive though, since the fruit dragons have no sub-type?).

Also, the mystical beasts (Kraken, Unicorn etc) are farmable? Descend-Only I assume?

[The Greatest Dog]

They show up rarely in the PEM, and in the occasional biweekly-dragon dungeon. I got a Cerberus from skilling up Caol-Ila, I think?

[Chaore]

Healer Raph confirmed.

Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.

[Thaws]

See, this is what I would have liked to have been told when I was asked what the differences between HK/Taiwan and JP versions would be, I am too lazy to switch though I would just play casually.

For the record, my IGN is syurelya and my ID is 201,267,866

I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.

Healer Raph confirmed.

Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.

Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.

I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?

[Chaore]

I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.

I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?

Jesus, pretty good set. Hatsume and I&I and you're rolling in the deep.

Light Zhuge would work yes. I mean lets be honest, Raph+Valk on 16x will do a shit ton of damage with a shynee. I just....would've much preferred it on a team that had a bit more going for it, tbh.

Who knows, Maybe it'll put light healer slightly on the map. Raph has angelits after all? How low does that cooldown go?

>16 turns.

oh. Welp. Atleast zhuge's LS makes stalling easy ahahahaha

[hyorinryu]

Healer Raph confirmed.

Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.

Well, at least this way I put him in an easy mode Hera-farm team. Though I probably don't need him for that.

I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.

I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?

I should probably add you too. My IGN is strawberry. I don't know to feel about Gabby. I was hoping for Physical. I'm the opposite, the only member I have is I&I. I rolled last fest hoping for Hatsume, but I only got Hanzo instead Between Hanzo and Arthur, is a Lilith team worth looking in to? Maybe throw in a Tiamat.

[Thaws]

Jesus, pretty good set. Hatsume and I&I and you're rolling in the deep.

Light Zhuge would work yes. I mean lets be honest, Raph+Valk on 16x will do a shit ton of damage with a shynee. I just....would've much preferred it on a team that had a bit more going for it, tbh.

Who knows, Maybe it'll put light healer slightly on the map. Raph has angelits after all? How low does that cooldown go?

>16 turns.

oh. Welp. Atleast zhuge's LS makes stalling easy ahahahaha

Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V

I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.

I should probably add you too. My IGN is strawberry. I don't know to feel about Gabby. I was hoping for Physical. I'm the opposite, the only member I have is I&I. I rolled last fest hoping for Hatsume, but I only got Hanzo instead Between Hanzo and Arthur, is a Lilith team worth looking in to? Maybe throw in a Tiamat.

What are you talking about you've already added me  :getdown:
Hanzo's a great roll that's useful in many dark teams, essential in Pandora teams as a 5-turn orb changer, pairs well with Haku (as team member) and Ares, and of course the best orb changer for dark attackers. It's also easy to skill up. Wish I had one :/ *Stares at two max skilled Hamahimes in my BOX*
Lilith teams are basically a poor man's DMeta team but it should still be decent, with enough row enhances any team becomes stupidly strong anyways, so having 3x instead of DMeta's 4x doesn't matter much at the boss :V On the other hand, you don't have to worry about health management and also don't have trouble dealing with descents where the first battle OHKO's you with ridiculous damage in like 3 turns.

[trancehime]

I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.

I've accepted your request; sorry I didn't get it earlier I'm busy with email-sending :V

[Mr. Sacchi]

> Raphael requires Golden Keeper.

Oh, good, my Golden Keeper now has an use :V

[hyorinryu]

Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V

I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.

What are you talking about you've already added me  :getdown:
Hanzo's a great roll that's useful in many dark teams, essential in Pandora teams as a 5-turn orb changer, pairs well with Haku (as team member) and Ares, and of course the best orb changer for dark attackers. It's also easy to skill up. Wish I had one :/ *Stares at two max skilled Hamahimes in my BOX*
Lilith teams are basically a poor man's DMeta team but it should still be decent, with enough row enhances any team becomes stupidly strong anyways, so having 3x instead of DMeta's 4x doesn't matter much at the boss :V On the other hand, you don't have to worry about health management and also don't have trouble dealing with descents where the first battle OHKO's you with ridiculous damage in like 3 turns.

Was mainly talking to Trance about the friend request thing. Ooops.

As for Hanzo, the only dark team I use right now is Satan. Though, if I got Ookuni off the ground, he could have a spot there with Haku and Duke.


Btw, what's Raph's new leader skill? I'm assuming it fits the other 3 archangels, but not sure.

[Thaws]

Was mainly talking to Trance about the friend request thing. Ooops.

Oh. You quoted me so I got confused :V

Btw, what's Raph's new leader skill? I'm assuming it fits the other 3 archangels, but not sure.

Yep, Raph's LS is basically the same thing but for light monsters. They sure is liking this new 2/1.35/2 ratio for buffing things.

[Chaore]

Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V

I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.

Probably. Hatsume is great for a constant supply so you don't run out though- Just valk alone isn't enough sometimes. :firstrowldproblems:

Mostly, good subs with rows, though. Really important.

[Thaws]

Probably. Hatsume is great for a constant supply so you don't run out though- Just valk alone isn't enough sometimes. :firstrowldproblems:

Mostly, good subs with rows, though. Really important.

That's true, but until I roll I&I all these subs are just rotting in my box. orz I even have Gab and Sun Quan already skilled up. If only Sun Quan's LS wasn't so useless.
With all these Norse ultimate evolutions coming out I hope they're in the next godfes.

Edit: 4 runs of Masks Legend and they all drop Ancient Green Sacred Mask!? Are you kidding me? Went ahead for 7 rolls on the PEM and another Ancient Green Mask came out. Guess no Ultimate Gabriel for me this week. Seriously, I just needed one more Blue Mask what the hell.

[Suikama]

i still dont care about raph because his active is too slow

also because i just 0 stoned Satan with Isis BV BV BV

[commandercool]

Amazing. I just got a 2x experience fusion with a maxed snow globe dragon on Valkyrie. She went from 2.5 million to maxed instantly. So good.