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RAMMAR:

--- Quote ---Wow! That's certainly an impressive level you managed to obtain there, RAMMAR... I don't think I got anywhere near level 60 before I finished it. Curious that you didn't realize you could dash from the start though, since I've known about that sort of thing as far back as Sailor Moon: Another Story. ;)
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That was completed at 100 percent with the 99 levels for everyone (in Another Story)... Also, that was SNES, so there not so many buttons that you could use, but in this game, there are no manual for hot keys (I've not find it). So, I'd to search for them by myself... Today I've loaded the last save to took into the bestiary, I've forgot to do so. And I've found that Rumia had level 64 (others got 63). In bestiary there are some missing places, some of them is Angelic Mirror, it could be good to have all EX and Lunatic bosses there also as you've beaten them anyway.


--- Quote ---I didn't have any trouble with the direction arrows, but I definitely noticed the same bug on Nameless Hill. Of course, I've yet to compile any sort of list for Chapter 5, plus it has already been mentioned on here anyway. One thing no-one has mentioned, is that seemingly pointless area near the end of Northern Gensokyo on the left-hand side of the map. At first, I thought it might be a shortcut back to avoid all those damn kedama, but it simply leads to a dead end clearing. What's with that, I wonder!?
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I also had that at the Nameless Hill after I've left that cave. But I've also that at the start of the Forbidden Section in Voile Library (SDM). As for that portal, it reminds me one old game, where I've seen something like to this one, so that is part of the quest with the (probably) rainbow gems combining, hence those spats and the middle one where you get the result. But I can be mistaken...


--- Quote ---I don't think any of Flan's attacks are elemental based are they? One thing I do know is that EX Flan, the Kaiser Dragon, and Lavos are all ridiculously powerful and really do require Excalipoor to win comfortably, otherwise you end up sitting around for an hour like I did. Then again, I play a lot more like Naz does, as in trying not to grind excessively (did way too much of that back in the days of Dungeon Master & Diablo II).

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Kaiser Dragon died after 20 minutes, I've forced to have a big level for Flan (dragon was next, I've not knew about him and killed him on the first try anyway), as I couldn't take her down with out needed MAT level. I've tried a lot to beat her with the lower stats and levels, but all of them resulted an epic fail. Also with Flan, the most problem was to survive first two turns, then it became much easier to beat her. Lavos was much easier then it was in Chrono Trigger (IMHO), the only long phase was during dragon's, but at that time I knew how I must to handle that problem (it took around 13 minutes to beat him)...
SasaMisa:
I don't think I got that high the last time I played through Another Story, but it's such an easy game, levels aren't really that much of a consideration, just as long as you have enough to beat the current boss. Have to give it a go again at some point, if only to see if my Japanese has improved since that time (I kid you not, when my mate first lent it to me, I could barely read a few words; now I'm rapidly approaching the N2 level).

How are you at Final Fantasy Tactics by the way? It has to be the one game where excessive level grinding actually works against you, especially during random encounters. I mean, at maximum level, no matter what equipment you've got on you, those damn red chocobos can pretty much one shot any character.  :flamingv:

Back on topic though, you said there's a similar glitch on the Forbidden Section of the library. Whereabouts is that then, as I didn't notice anything on my many trips through it?

EX Flan is actually beatable with a much lower level you know, like one guy on YouTube demonstrated a while back (I don't think he had much more than level 30). You obviously need Haste, and Rumia will be the main damage dealer with Cirno doing the healing/buffing. Surprisingly, Wriggle & Mystia really don't matter so much. As you rightly said yourself, it is all about surviving that first Destructive Rain of the Heavens assault, which you absolutely have to guard against otherwise it will kill everybody in very short order.

Check it out if you haven't already:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0pzaR63rhk

Also, I haven't actually beat Lavos yet. It was only after I completed the game that I realized where he was (I thought the black portal was a simple trap left by Mima and thus avoided it), and on the attempt I made that night, Wriggle unfortunately triggered a Mindblast reprisal with the Overkiller weapon and that was the end of that. The fact that I had Excalibur and not Excalipoor didn't help, and given how long it took to do the Kaiser Dragon without it, I decided not to try again. :(

I definitely want to give this game another go though, whether it's before or after Naz brings out the next update. I mean, there's still the Arena, which I only managed to do on Easy & Normal so far, plus that crazy Nitori challenge, which you didn't seem to have any clear way of winning.
RAMMAR:

--- Quote ---I don't think I got that high the last time I played through Another Story, but it's such an easy game, levels aren't really that much of a consideration, just as long as you have enough to beat the current boss. Have to give it a go again at some point, if only to see if my Japanese has improved since that time (I kid you not, when my mate first lent it to me, I could barely read a few words; now I'm rapidly approaching the N2 level).
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I've done it just for fun (to have everything at the max level). As the other beating of that game were at the low level. But there was an "Lunatic" version of the Queen Beryl and I've accepted that challenge (there were a lots of level grinding to beat that version of her). Also, I've played english version of it. There were a fan made continue to that story, but I've not played it.


--- Quote ---How are you at Final Fantasy Tactics by the way? It has to be the one game where excessive level grinding actually works against you, especially during random encounters. I mean, at maximum level, no matter what equipment you've got on you, those damn red chocobos can pretty much one shot any character.  :flamingv:
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Final fantasy is not for me, I've not liked that series... Chrono Trigger and Seiken Densetsu were better for me...


--- Quote ---Back on topic though, you said there's a similar glitch on the Forbidden Section of the library. Whereabouts is that then, as I didn't notice anything on my many trips through it?
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I've got it at start of this section (as I started to level grinding there, the after some battle went to normal library for a spring and then back).

I've seen that video about Lunatic Flandre, but it seems that Flan became stronger after that or he just was very lucky, so I've not got close to that in video (he got a hundreds of cheap bombs (Naz changed its price later after seen that video)), but I'd to kill a lot of Canniboxes for elixirs to sell them to get bombs, so there were a lot of grinding. If I could get that quantity of bombs with out so much of level grinding, then I could bring down Flan much earlier. Now after completing this game, I've found a best place for the money - Kleptoboxes (almost no exp, but tons of money). May be after a new version of this game I've try this variant. As for Nitori's challenge, I've not seen that, probably due to that fact that I've gave an evil reflecting glass, at that time I've not know about the password thing to get to the Angelic Mirror, but when I've got the other piece, Nitori didn't used it and then she just disappeared from the game. I've also missed blessing from Moria shrine (that damn Reimu's smelly bag).
Kizune-Chao:
Hello? Anyone still here?
SasaMisa:
I am, except there's not much I can do until Naz replies/releases an update, so I've been taking the time to continue boning up on Japanese (still not quite at N1 yet, but getting there slowly).

At any rate, I'm absolutely still interested in helping out, seeing as this game jumped straight to No.3 on my favourites list of fan-based Touhou games. Who knows, with a bit more work, it may even eke out Wandering Souls and Hack & Slash from the top slots. ;)
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