FF5 Four Job Fiesta 2014: Can I !Mix you a !Drink?

[Reddyne]

Sure.

Use image of dancer Galuf's undulating crotch?

NO BRAIN NO

[Third Eye Lem]

What could possibly go wrong?

[Garlyle]

What could possibly go wrong?

Everything Thief/Berserker/Geomancer/Dragoon

Welcome 8D

[Reddyne]

Everything Thief/Berserker/Geomancer/Dragoon

Welcome 8D

Not only do some of the one-trick pony classes make it more difficult, they make it more boring too. Still, I wonder if Monk isn't worse than Thief in the long run? Grinding for stolen goods must be a pain though.

Also, anyone have any recommendations for taking a series of screen shots instead of slugging through several individual copy-paste-crop sessions in Paint?

Oops I forgot how great VBA is.

[Garlyle]

Not only do some of the one-trick pony classes make it more difficult, they make it more boring too. Still, I wonder if Monk isn't worse than Thief in the long run? Grinding for stolen goods must be a pain though.

It really depends.

Monk has an awkward period around Act 2 to early Act 3 where it just sorta falls off in power (It goes back up because of Kaiser Knuckles) and lacks in utility options; it still has some of the highest durability in the game though and minimizes the gil cost to keep it equipped, and it's not really weak, just straightforward.  It's good at what it does, just, 'what it does' is more focused than even the Knight.

Thief doesn't really have much that makes it stellar, beside its agility (which is fantastic for mixing with other jobs) and potentially some unique steals to enhance other jobs, RNG-dependant that is.  However, it offers very little that other classes can't do already (so many classes can wield daggers), stealing is extremely situational, and it doesn't really excel at a single thing like Monk does - it just does a handful of things in a subpar manner.  It does mix really well with other classes because of its agility, but again, that is lost in Natural.

So I'd argue Thief to be the worse in a Natural challenge, I think.

[RegalStar]

I had both Thief and Monk on my second (Natural) run last year and I think that Thief is a lot better than Monk.  While their damage is lacking in world 1 (though then they contribute with Hi-potions instead so they're more like an indirect healer), thieves actually do pretty good physical damage from world 2 on because of how hilariously broken Twin Lance is, and they're one of the easiest class to make use of the chicken knife. Monk, on the other hand, never struck me as anything other than a physical attacker with high HP and low damage. I'm not a fan of Kaiser Knuckles because they use up the accessory slot, which means no Hermes Sandals, so it's not nearly as effective. (This is especially true on iOS version where Kick command is a lot more useful and almost mandatory for the final boss because of the back row bug, but Kaiser Knuckles no longer work with it.) Overall they just really don't deal the kind of damage I'd expect out of a character which has literally nothing to do except damage things and use items (they can't even equip knives for miscellaneous effects).

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Monk is decent early game then terrible mid-late game. Thief sucks early game and gets decent once you get Twin Lances and Chicken knife with Mug is also awesome. Counter is also nice for avoiding counters if the enemy also physically attacks, but it's not really a big deal since the damage is still pretty bad due to being purely level reliant. Counter does have a plus in the

Spoiler:

Archaeoavis

fight since you know how it really has 5 forms even if you only see 2. Well, if you kill one of the forms with counter, the battle ends instantly.

I'd rather get Thief than monk. Steal stuff throughout the game and not only in the final part of the game, and I'd rather deal with a sucky class early game than late game(unless your team roll forces you to run Byblos out of MP then fuck)

[triangles]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE
THE BERSERKER TREE IS FLOURISHING

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I did kind of expect there'd be a zerker for all by the time it started, but I wasn't expecting someone to cover 260 of them with a $2600 donation. Whoever did that is awesome.

[Garlyle]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE
THE BERSERKER TREE IS FLOURISHING

horrified girly scream

just kidding I am so up for double berserkers

[I have no name]

Yesssssss guaranteed berserker and 10% shot at double berserker in the current state of things.  I am totally ok with this.

[RegalStar]

Yesssssss guaranteed berserker and 10% shot at double berserker in the current state of things.  I am totally ok with this.

Don't forget possibility of triple berserker (I think 1/18 in normal, 1/6 in no750 and ~7.7% in random, if you get two from berserker risk). Monk Berserker Berserker Berserker go go go

[Reddyne]

horrified girly scream

just kidding I am so up for double berserkers

My body is ready. Also thanks for the reminder that I still need to throw them some cash.

[Garlyle]

431 Berserker Risk Players; 512 Berserkers to give out currently.  Oh god

Also, I updated the guide last night with a couple corrections, and also the differences for the iOS version now that I noticed it in the opening post WHOOPS.  Maybe I'll get one that has the differences between GBA and SNES sometime.

I hope you're all getting hype, four days 'till gilgamesh

[I have no name]

431 Berserker Risk Players; 512 Berserkers to give out currently.  Oh god

You say this like it's a bad thing-I'd be fine even with TRIPLE BERSERKER with any Wind Crystal class except Monk...which is a powerhouse on its own and soloing with Monk (maybe with EqAxes) would be a cakewalk.  Thieves have unlimited Elixir works+insanespeedberserkers so I'd be fine with that.

[Garlyle]

You say this like it's a bad thing-I'd be fine even with TRIPLE BERSERKER with any Wind Crystal class except Monk...which is a powerhouse on its own and soloing with Monk (maybe with EqAxes) would be a cakewalk.  Thieves have unlimited Elixir works+insanespeedberserkers so I'd be fine with that.

Well yeah but you're also not on Natural ;-;

Spoiler:

just kidding I'm excited as fuck

[WHMZakeri]

Now I feel bad for going after the Classic option first. It was clearly an impulse selection.
Oh well, I guess I can say I've donated my berserkers to the rest of you.

[Reddyne]

To all the folks who are involved this year: Do you plan to post/stream on your progress regularly like last year? If so, will they just be updates here or abroad like other forums and such? It would be nice to see how y'all are managing. The thread from last year contained great tales of Validon's Team OP, Stuffman's Team WAAAAAGH and Triangles' Team Fluffy Hug Kittens (featuring WAAAAGH).

431 Berserker Risk Players; 512 Berserkers to give out currently.  Oh god

Also, I updated the guide last night with a couple corrections, and also the differences for the iOS version now that I noticed it in the opening post WHOOPS.  Maybe I'll get one that has the differences between GBA and SNES sometime.

I hope you're all getting hype, four days 'till gilgamesh

Yeah let's do this. Dark Souls withdrawal symptoms be damned. Dunno if I feel like a wuss or not by choosing Normal instead of Random, narrowing my ZERKER possibility down to a grand total of 1 character. Dunno if I feel stoopid or not bcuz I had to aks 4 help wat difrens do norml or randum maek while simultaneously feeling comparatively intelligent due to negating any residual confusion regarding the framework and intricacies of two analogous yet distinctly separate systems. :V

[I have no name]

To all the folks who are involved this year: Do you plan to post/stream on your progress regularly like last year? If so, will they just be updates here or abroad like other forums and such?

I'm going to be streaming literally all my runs...and I'm planning on doing a lot of them  :V

Highlights of close fights/good strategies/any Omega or Shinryu kills will be posted here, of course.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I've done a solo Natural Monk, so I'll say that it's not that bad outside of crap like W2 Exdeath and Final Exdeath(and Final Exdeath was somehow first attempt since he never chose White Hole, Doom, and Grand Cross was nice to me). Also Atomos. That's in terms of survival though as the damage does suck. You'd be better off playing Monk as if it were Natural most of the time if you got 3 zerkers. Maybe an Equip Axe for the Death Scythe is useful sometimes, and you could set up autogrinding at some points with Berserk.


Won't be streaming as I don't think my computer can really handle it and my Internet sucks anyway. Would post updates in the thread here though.

[triangles]

I'll once again do blog posts to here and my Tumbler, but I still need to figure out exactly how to stream. 

The way I envision it is my sister and I both commentating having profound insight narrating talking loudly with lots of peanut gallery comments, our dumb injokes and references to other games and her getting very mad on certain bosses depending on what she winds up with. 

I just downloaded OBS so I can play around with it since it was free and seemed the easiest.  I know I can set it up so if we're on a Skype call that would also show up on the stream (how is another question) but is there any stupid anti-ghosting delay I'd have to worry about with Twitch that would make things nonsensical if I was watching her stream and yapping away and it winds up being 60 seconds behind?  Should we only stream when we're together?  We could do that easily a few times a week so it's not a huge concern. 

[Reddyne]

Should we only stream when we're together?  We could do that easily a few times a week so it's not a huge concern.

For what it's worth, it will probably be more fun for any audience to have two people together instead of just one. I've probably watched more Let's Plays than regular TV over the last 3 years and just watching one person quietly play makes me feel jealous that I'm not playing myself. If the person playing likes to constantly make jokes about what's going on in the game or can provide a constant stream of knowledge/lore about it, that's very different because it's more engaging. If that's tough, two people together allows for a constant conversation and is similarly engaging.

That's my two cents on it anyhow.

[triangles]

Oh it would most certainly be both of us yapping the whole time - the question is would it be best to be physically  in the same room or could we swing one of us being on Skype and having that call broadcast too ~somehow~ without excessively stupid delays.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Now I feel bad for going after the Classic option first. It was clearly an impulse selection.
Oh well, I guess I can say I've donated my berserkers to the rest of you.

You can still change. :V Especially since if you do want to BERSERKER RISK it's gotta be first.

But yeah just a berserer donation is totally welcome too (she says, not risking).

To all the folks who are involved this year: Do you plan to post/stream on your progress regularly like last year? If so, will they just be updates here or abroad like other forums and such? It would be nice to see how y'all are managing.

Last year I was kind of all over the place and didn't post much at all; probably the most was here/tumblr with a little tweeting just to get it on my actual FJF profile. Considering trying to stream some this year.

And yeah triangles Twitch has a delay; you can sorta pick up on it at a couple points early on in here mostly when I turned off the stream and noticed Amra had his mic muted on TeamSpeak. :V (and then he turned it back on and all was well.)

[Third Eye Lem]

To all the folks who are involved this year: Do you plan to post/stream on your progress regularly like last year? If so, will they just be updates here or abroad like other forums and such? It would be nice to see how y'all are managing.

Last year I just tweeted my stuff, I may consider recording my run using VBA and uploading it to Youtube.

[RegalStar]

I might write text write-ups and put them in places I go to. I don't think I'll be streaming or taking videos though; my computer sucks enough without the strain of a video taking process added on top of it.

[Stuffman]

I will be posting humorous MSpaints, as before.

Some highlights from last year:

[WHMZakeri]

You can still change. :V Especially since if you do want to BERSERKER RISK it's gotta be first.

But yeah just a berserer donation is totally welcome too (she says, not risking).

I thought about it, but it turned out I'm too hype for the new challange to do it.
I guess I really don't want to spread the Berserkers thin. Hope you all enjoy them~

I'm still wondering what I should do. I want to stream it, but I don't really have anything going for me. I'm afraid it would just be a quiet, concentration thing for me, and I don't know if I'll make movies of it since I plan on using the SNES Version this year. I'm sure Znes has the function, though so maybe I'll play around with that.

[Garlyle]

I will absolutely be streaming.

Also if I can manage it I plan to make a serious attempt at the Sealed Temple this year, if I get a team that has a reasonable chance of it (So probably not my first, since I don't see Berserkers going well on Enuo because of false targets, buuuut...)

I wonder if anyone actually has done that?  Hm.

[FinnKaenbyou]

i'm in

BERSERKER RISK initiated

FUN IS ABOUT TO COMMENCE