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Zengar Zombolt

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Re: Dragon Poker- Whale has never been a more accurate IAP term. (IOS/Android)
« Reply #390 on: December 01, 2014, 02:18:49 PM »
I'm either seeing things, or we are having TATSUNOKO COLLAB WITH TATSUNOKO GACHA.
The seduction of that gold lightan is strongk.
E: Couldn't resist. Lightan get!
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« Reply #391 on: December 03, 2014, 08:41:14 AM »
So I threw some stones into getting Match Girl and suddenly, gold light and....



hail satan



(I guess I'm pretty much set for life now when it comes to Red. Mary, Sfatlicllp, Satan, and Ifrina!)

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« Reply #392 on: December 03, 2014, 06:08:20 PM »
I'm either seeing things, or we are having TATSUNOKO COLLAB WITH TATSUNOKO GACHA.
The seduction of that gold lightan is strongk.
E: Couldn't resist. Lightan get!

Oh, whoops, we are.

On the cards- They're fucking shit except gold lightnan.

Ken and Joe literally have no upsides, Casshern's gimmick is fucking awful, and Lightnan is a fucking beast to be honest.

That's all you need to know. Don't touch red or blue.

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« Reply #393 on: December 05, 2014, 03:27:47 AM »
Big update time! Grab the new apk when you can and rake in all of the maintenance/apology stones.

Update stuff: here
- New title screen щ(゜ロ゜щ) カモオオオン
- Multiple deck support added You can now edit and save up to five different decks. Use the checkboxes to determine which deck you bring into the main game and colosseum.
- Sell up to 20 monsters at once
- Rings and fairies added for purchase in medal shop (diamond rings are stupid expensive tho)
- Quick access to campaigns and colosseum added to the Menu menu

Also colosseum has been totally revamped and... yeah just read the stuff in the link, I don't get it yet, but I get the feeling getting medals is going to be even HARDER now that ranks appear to have been reset for everyone. I don't think I like this. Oh, and enhance cards have been nerfed. Really don't like that.

Also new gacha:
Red:
Nikita: 4x slash, chance for paralysis, extra damage when hitting someone already paralyzed.
Leonidas: 3x slash damage, extra damage for every red card in the hand.
Garnet: 1x slash attack, fire elemental AOE damage on straight+. Only really worth getting for being the best slash sub in the game.

Blue:
Galvin: 3x stab, +1 AGI to self
Heltares: 3x stab, then additional hit with chance to blind. On straight+, additional hit is stronger and AOE.
Walrus: 1x Stab attack, +1 DEF (adds +ATK when DEF is higher than 0). Better known for being a stab sub on the same level as Garnet is to slash.

Green:
Ranmaru: 1x slash, chance for seal. At SL6-7, hits anywhere from 1-5 times, each hit having a chance to seal. This was my first SS \o/
Galahad: Execute 4x Slash-attacks, each with a chance to randomly deal more damage. Sub skill is an unconditional +25% to slash subs with a chance of -1 DEF to enemies.
Ns-L'yi: 3x stab damage that drains some of the damage and heals you; chance for seal.

Looks like green is the one to pull for, but even then I'm hesitant.

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« Reply #394 on: December 05, 2014, 04:23:13 AM »
I dunno. Blue is pretty solid. Heltares is really strong, and Galvin is pretty solid, being a 3-hitter with 30 cost stats, right?

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« Reply #395 on: December 05, 2014, 05:17:00 AM »
Well, my reasoning on preference here was that both Red and Blue both have cards that are pretty low in worth outside of being used a sub (Garnet and Walrus, respectively). Heltares is a beast and is fantastic in PvP, because blindness is one of the hardest things to get around, on top of his heavy hitting.

Galvin, in my experience, has seemed to be pretty overwhelmingly average. Not terrible, not fantastic, just solid damage and a minor buff.

Meanwhile all three cards in Green are pretty great. Ranmaru is pretty useful and has served me well, but does kind of feel obsolete at the point of the game I'm at. Galahad seems to be solid, powerful damage as well as a pretty awesome sub. Ns-L'yi is a terror in PvP, being basically a fixed 3-hit Ranmaru with healing capabilities built in. She's a beast and definitely the one to pull for there, in my opinion.

For Red, Garnet's main use is as a sub, where she's incredible, but unless you already have a solid deck of gods set up, that should be a lower priority. Not to mention that Garnet has shown up in free SS pools (one of which is coming soon!), so you may be able to score her for free anyway. Nikita's pretty great and I think she's the one to go for if you really want to roll red. Also, playing Garnet as a main card is a constant source of frustration, because she fuses with Peridot (which will make people very mad please don't do that).

Leonidas seems very situational at best. According to #dorapo, he's got a base damage of 1.2x, with an additional .1x for each extra red card in the hand. Thus, a maximum of 3 1.6x hits, which would be pretty nice, but when you consider the only odds of that happening are in situations where it's forced into a flush (which is one of the weakest hands in the game by a long shot), or in situations of House Flushes, Straight Flushes, and Royal Straight Flushes, all of which rarely ever happen.

So yeah. Pull blue if you want Heltares or to a lesser extent Galvin, but you really can't go wrong with Green.

EDIT: I WILL say, however, as a caveat for pursuing Ns-L'yi: While there are only four cards in the Eldritch fusion pool and two of them are EXTREMELY rare (Cthulhu and Tsathoggua, who can only be pulled off-gacha), both Ns-L'yi and Sfatlicllp are very, VERY common right now and you will inevitably be sucked into super fusions with other folks' cards. The Eldritch super fusion is pretty fucking awful compared to the monstrous payload of the cards themselves, so do keep that in mind. (It's one-hit AOE damage with stat drops, which will utterly wreck your damage output.)

EDIT 2: I should also add that Enhance cards have been nerfed to the point of being ruined. Like, really really bad.

Powerups @ SL7: From 2.0x to 1.35x
AOE @ SL7: From 1.2x to 0.6x
Multiply @ SL7: 0.8x to 0.6x

Guess I'll be shooting for Peridot next time she's around, because she's the one who got wrecked least. There seems to be little point in running Mercurius or Ifrina anymore, too.

AOE supremacy is over. :persona:
« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 05:51:28 AM by Madoka Kanamatsuri »

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« Reply #396 on: December 05, 2014, 06:59:14 AM »
Well, my reasoning on preference here was that both Red and Blue both have cards that are pretty low in worth outside of being used a sub (Garnet and Walrus, respectively). Heltares is a beast and is fantastic in PvP, because blindness is one of the hardest things to get around, on top of his heavy hitting.

Galvin, in my experience, has seemed to be pretty overwhelmingly average. Not terrible, not fantastic, just solid damage and a minor buff.

Meanwhile all three cards in Green are pretty great. Ranmaru is pretty useful and has served me well, but does kind of feel obsolete at the point of the game I'm at. Galahad seems to be solid, powerful damage as well as a pretty awesome sub. Ns-L'yi is a terror in PvP, being basically a fixed 3-hit Ranmaru with healing capabilities built in. She's a beast and definitely the one to pull for there, in my opinion.

For Red, Garnet's main use is as a sub, where she's incredible, but unless you already have a solid deck of gods set up, that should be a lower priority. Not to mention that Garnet has shown up in free SS pools (one of which is coming soon!), so you may be able to score her for free anyway. Nikita's pretty great and I think she's the one to go for if you really want to roll red. Also, playing Garnet as a main card is a constant source of frustration, because she fuses with Peridot (which will make people very mad please don't do that).

Leonidas seems very situational at best. According to #dorapo, he's got a base damage of 1.2x, with an additional .1x for each extra red card in the hand. Thus, a maximum of 3 1.6x hits, which would be pretty nice, but when you consider the only odds of that happening are in situations where it's forced into a flush (which is one of the weakest hands in the game by a long shot), or in situations of House Flushes, Straight Flushes, and Royal Straight Flushes, all of which rarely ever happen.

So yeah. Pull blue if you want Heltares or to a lesser extent Galvin, but you really can't go wrong with Green.

EDIT: I WILL say, however, as a caveat for pursuing Ns-L'yi: While there are only four cards in the Eldritch fusion pool and two of them are EXTREMELY rare (Cthulhu and Tsathoggua, who can only be pulled off-gacha), both Ns-L'yi and Sfatlicllp are very, VERY common right now and you will inevitably be sucked into super fusions with other folks' cards. The Eldritch super fusion is pretty fucking awful compared to the monstrous payload of the cards themselves, so do keep that in mind. (It's one-hit AOE damage with stat drops, which will utterly wreck your damage output.)

EDIT 2: I should also add that Enhance cards have been nerfed to the point of being ruined. Like, really really bad.

Powerups @ SL7: From 2.0x to 1.35x
AOE @ SL7: From 1.2x to 0.6x
Multiply @ SL7: 0.8x to 0.6x

Guess I'll be shooting for Peridot next time she's around, because she's the one who got wrecked least. There seems to be little point in running Mercurius or Ifrina anymore, too.

AOE supremacy is over. :persona:

True. I'm just speaking from my experience. I started out with Galvin, and I've found him to be pretty dependable. Granted, you do have to worry about gambler, but it seems like you have to worry about with all the good cards nowadays. I'm probably not going to roll this time around though. I got Nys'Li last time, so I'm good with green for now. I want things to replace Garnet and Vesty at the moment. That, and more team cost.

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Re: Dragon Poker- Whale has never been a more accurate IAP term. (IOS/Android)
« Reply #397 on: December 05, 2014, 02:18:32 PM »
Wahaha, and the only enhances I have are multipliers. Gambler and Peridot master race is back :D
E:

My gacha luck has been too good lately. Scary, scary.
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« Reply #398 on: December 05, 2014, 09:47:39 PM »
wow holy shit

this enhance change is atrocious

AOE is literally basically the worst enhance in the game now when it was already extremely situational, Multiply is even shittier and power up barely does anything anymore

who the fuck signed off on this....?

edit: oh IN colo

this completely destroys AOE enhances though, this is fucking terrible, this is 100% what i fucking did not want because now AOE is god damn bottom-tier

Edit: To reiterate, the enhance change is COLO ONLY.

It basically destroys AOE entirely imo but we'll see.
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« Reply #399 on: December 05, 2014, 09:58:35 PM »
Wait woah what the hell.
I just noticed but people quitting mid-match won't have a fame reduction for it?

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« Reply #400 on: December 05, 2014, 10:47:50 PM »
As far as BP goes, I think AOE still has its place. Even if you're only hitting 0.6x, you're still hitting 5 people, which is still effectively 3x damage. The nerf is devastating, but I wouldn't call it worthless. Yet.

Maybe Kusobism will do some more balance tweaking on it if people complain enough.

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« Reply #401 on: December 12, 2014, 07:31:54 AM »
New Gacha. Can't bring myself to care.

There's also a free SS/bonus event page in the serials menu. Pick 1-9 for the sub SS of your choice, 10 for a free 28-cost-or-less SS gacha card, 11 for 3 god fairies, and 12 for 3 ultimate gold marrons

do not take the ticket

do NOT take the ticket

DO NOT TAKE THE TICKET

IT IS A TRAP

YOU WILL GET TRASH

:persona:
« Last Edit: December 13, 2014, 12:42:41 AM by Madoka Kanamatsuri »

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« Reply #402 on: December 12, 2014, 07:34:49 AM »
This gacha is simple.

You have Lumi in red with two awful cards, Mercury in another color with two terrible cards, and COMPLETE GARBAGE in green.

I don't suggest rolling this gacha as such!

Edit: To further on matsy's post- 28 cost or less removes only good cards really, and holds a LOT of the worst cards.

You're at complete risk if you take it.

Godspeed if you do, brave ticket warriors

Zengar Zombolt

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« Reply #403 on: December 12, 2014, 02:18:02 PM »
Oh hey. The poker gods have saved me from waiting to pull a walrus! o/
PRAISE uh i dunno gambler?

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« Reply #404 on: December 12, 2014, 10:52:12 PM »
Which is better? Pinoko or Lapis Luzuli? I want healers, but I Pinoko doesn't seem that great, and Lapis already has the subpar healer slot. If don't pick Pinoko, I'll pick between Walrus and Monkey King. I have a lot of spear guys to slot Walrus in: Galvin, Artemis, Noel, Tristan, and Nys Li. I have no claw dudes outside of Lao Hu, who I don't use. I still want variety in what I have. Right now, I'm leaning toward Walrus.

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« Reply #405 on: December 13, 2014, 12:41:44 AM »
You have it mixed up. It's Lapis Lazuli who is not that great. Pinoko is pretty much hands down the best blue healer. If you want a healer, take her.

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« Reply #406 on: December 13, 2014, 02:40:51 AM »
You have it mixed up. It's Lapis Lazuli who is not that great. Pinoko is pretty much hands down the best blue healer. If you want a healer, take her.
I didn't think that Lapis was that great. They both didn't seem that good to me based on what I read on the wiki. I'll go with her then. I guess if I need to be carried, I can use both Lapis and Pinoko to not die.

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« Reply #407 on: December 13, 2014, 02:44:17 AM »
Pinoko has a 100% status inmunity chance! That's kind of big stuff.

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« Reply #408 on: December 13, 2014, 04:06:00 AM »
pinoko is flat out the best healer at the moment and great vs. status effects


she's super legit tbh

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« Reply #409 on: December 13, 2014, 04:13:48 AM »
I thought Dryad was the best healer :v

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« Reply #410 on: December 13, 2014, 04:33:03 AM »
I thought Dryad was the best healer :v

*blue healer

i missed a word ;;

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« Reply #411 on: December 13, 2014, 04:48:12 AM »
I thought Dryad was the best healer :v

Guess I know who I'm going for now. After ranking up and clearing a few dungeons, I got some extra team cost. I'm remaking my deck now. I was looking at subs, and I remember that skill boosts >>> damage boosts. Why is this? Is it because the skill boosts affects non-damage things like buffs? I was just looking at my Eibon, and wasn't sure what to slap him on.

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« Reply #412 on: December 17, 2014, 03:53:34 AM »
New event! Or old? Whatever, it's time to punch trains in the face as we fight Giant Soldier Cronos! His sub looks pretty legit to slap on any aoe healer.
I wonder, are those ss thingies alt evo mats or fancy fodder? And is there a way to get them outside of those late-tier treasures?

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« Reply #413 on: December 18, 2014, 11:09:37 PM »
Update is now over.

New gacha includes the long awaited LUCIFER.

Azzuro next to him is somewhat mediocre, and walrus is the best spear sub.

Green however is super fantastic, and red is somewhat bad tbh.

also the new colo ss are 6k lol fuck that shit

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« Reply #414 on: December 19, 2014, 12:30:24 AM »
Fug. 8 rolls, only got an Azzurro.

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« Reply #415 on: December 19, 2014, 12:38:06 AM »
New Colo cards- Kind of interesting.

The sword girl attacks 1-3 times.... and gives you +1 to all for each kill. At +5 all, she becomes AOE. She's also in colo basically a free no holds +35% on attackers.

buffer is unconditional AOE +DEF/AGI, with reduction i think, on A reduce status effects on you by higher buff words are hard

Green is 2x strike, raise defense. at full defense IRON WALL 1-3 HITS NO BARS, REST IN GOD DAMN PIECES JEANNE. sub is colo only -15% damage under 80% if on defense or A

so basically all really solidish, I think

but the prices are wayyyy too steep.

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« Reply #416 on: December 19, 2014, 03:02:21 AM »
New Colo cards- Kind of interesting.

The sword girl attacks 1-3 times.... and gives you +1 to all for each kill. At +5 all, she becomes AOE. She's also in colo basically a free no holds +35% on attackers.

buffer is unconditional AOE +DEF/AGI, with reduction i think, on A reduce status effects on you by higher buff words are hard

Green is 2x strike, raise defense. at full defense IRON WALL 1-3 HITS NO BARS, REST IN GOD DAMN PIECES JEANNE. sub is colo only -15% damage under 80% if on defense or A

so basically all really solidish, I think

but the prices are wayyyy too steep.

Speaking of which I just got 3k, and I'm not sure who to go for. Blue girl seems the best, but I have a lot of blue already. What I need most of red, but that guy doesn't seem that great. I'm leaning toward green at the moment.

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« Reply #417 on: December 19, 2014, 03:23:43 AM »
Speaking of which I just got 3k, and I'm not sure who to go for. Blue girl seems the best, but I have a lot of blue already. What I need most of red, but that guy doesn't seem that great. I'm leaning toward green at the moment.

Of the first set, Blue all the way.

Amnelia is absolutely amazing and kind of key if you can't roll norn.

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« Reply #418 on: December 19, 2014, 03:50:20 AM »
Of the first set, Blue all the way.

Amnelia is absolutely amazing and kind of key if you can't roll norn.

Got it. Are debuffs better than buffs in general or is it just Amnelia being really good?

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« Reply #419 on: December 19, 2014, 05:54:22 AM »
Got it. Are debuffs better than buffs in general or is it just Amnelia being really good?

Both are actually rather key late game, there are just MANY ways to get buffs.

Debuffs are actually really god damn rare on the other hand, and Amnelia is basically one of the best debuffers.

Edit: Also, Raid is coming.

Known Facts: It's got ranking bullshit, which is for an SS ticket (heh get wrecked whale lords) and the BIG BOSS, and there's a 'score attack' of contributing points for medals and shinies.

Everyone just for participating gets 100 gold medals.
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