Miscellaneous Questions 5: Ask Question, Receive Answer

[Phasm]

I think/ am pretty sure in that book Yukari fought Toyohime in the Bambo Forest of the Lost and Toyohime said that " if i use this fan, i can wipe out this intire forest easily " or something similar.

I think that Yukari along with a lot of other youkai invaded the moon once and they were obliterated by the moon's technology.

[Clarste]

Because the moon is better.

[SirSlarty]

Is there a succinct version of religion in Touhou, namely the quarrel between Byakuren and Miko (I don't understand Buddhism vs. Taoism at all).

[Sagus]

Their quarrel is that Miko considers buddhism a tool that's useful for controlling the masses and nothing more. Byakuren takes issue with that.

But that's pretty much it. There was never any "religious war" brewing in the setting or anything.

[the old guy]

Reimu did fear that there would a war because of Seiga, who as we all know is EVIL and hates Buddhism. (I think)

[Clarste]

I don't think Seiga hates Buddhism. She's the one who suggested introducing it to Japan after all (if only as a political tool). I don't think she cares much either way, she's just incredibly self-centered.

No one in this series hates Buddhism, or Taoism, or Shintoism. There's no religious war, there's just people with their own interests.

[Shiina Tamai]

What would happen under the spell card rules is somebody refused a challenge?

[Fastest Thing Alive]

I would assume refusing a challenge would be like refusing a fight, basically surrendering. That, or you just can't refuse.

[Drake]

Well, it's both a method of play and a method of conflict resolution. It might depend on context for what a "refusal" would really be, but somebody offering a challenge and you refusing it isn't a surrender in and of itself; you just don't want to. In terms of conflict resolution though, you can't really refuse, because to do so would mean that you're trying to avoid conflict resolution. In this case, you'd have to duel or just let the other party do what they want.

[Goomba98]

What is the best place to buy Touhou games from?

[Drake]

Akiba-Hobby is popular right now, but we also have a good fellow in this very forum running a courier/proxy service:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,566.0.html

[Maple]

Half-joking question, but:

Is there an, ahem, good reason for Kyouko's and Mamizou's names, and Seija's head tilt or it is just coincidence? I'm talking about Madoka Magica. Note that for Mamizou's name the katakana is the same, but Kyouko's changes 1 kanji.

[Koog]

I have a question!
Out of all characters, why did ZUN chose Marisa to be playable in Touhou 4??

[cuc]

While he's quite aware of it, no evidence has shown ZUN taking any inspiration from Madoka Magica.

Kyouko's whole name is a play on 幽谷響 "reveberation in deep, tranquil valley", a fancy way of writing her species name "yamabiko" in kanji. (BTW the wiki writer of her entry got the meaning of 幽 here wrong).

Mamizou's name has "zou", a common suffix for male given names that feels old-fashioned now, attached to "mami", a folkloric trickster animal said to be similar to tanuki but smaller, and has appeared in the WaHH official manga.

[cuc]

Re: Marisa as a second playable character, he seems to have already been developing the idea when making PoDD.

While it's difficult to tell if the role the earlier, red-headed Marisa plays in SoEW's bad endings (she "couched" Reimu in all of them) indicates any future plans, PoDD already depicts Reimu and Marisa as friendly rivals who see each other as peers. It's not a leap from here to being the other playable character.

BTW, according to SoEW's documentation, PoDD was originally planned to be a sidescrolling shooter titled "Touhou Mujikan" (Eastern Mansion of Dream Time). I won't be surprised if Marisa was planned to be a second PC in this one.

[Starxsword]

That's pretty interesting, never knew there were intentions on making a side scroller.

Anyway, I figure its because she's a stage 5 boss. Zun seems to like making stage 5 bosses playable.

[Goomba98]

Akiba-Hobby is popular right now, but we also have a good fellow in this very forum running a courier/proxy service:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,566.0.html

I want something in English and simple.

[Romantique Tp]

http://ec.akbh.jp/language/en/currency/USD

also have you tried reading that thread

[Helepolis]

I want something in English and simple.

Life isn't simple and definitely not in English for every one. I have to deal with this obscure language called: Dutch on daily basis. Mind you, I wish things were simple as well.

That said: We're not your slaves, your highness. You asked for directions, we gave you proper ones. If you don't want to comply, then that is your problem. Asking something from Forza is as easy as life can get, but I guess like Bigode commented, you didn't take the time to read.

[game2011]

I met someone who thinks Flandre may be able to kill Mokou and Kaguya, because her ability is to erase the existence of things completely.  I told him/her that she simply destroys things, not erase things completely, so she still can't kill those two.  Who's right?

[Colticide]

I met someone who thinks Flandre may be able to kill Mokou and Kaguya, because her ability is to erase the existence of things completely.  I told him/her that she destroys things, not erase things completely, so she still can't kill those two.  Who's right?

She can't erase something from existence, the only one who has something close would be Keine. She would outright kill them, but they would come back afterwards like in IN.

[game2011]

She can't erase something from existence, the only one who has something close would be Keine. She would outright kill them, but they would come back afterwards like in IN.

Thanks!

Seriously, it's annoying having to deal with people who think Touhou characters are more powerful than they should be...

[Colticide]

Thanks!

Seriously, it's annoying having to deal with people who think Touhou characters are more powerful than they should be...

Then there's the ones that think fanon is canon.

[Starxsword]

She can't erase something from existence, the only one who has something close would be Keine. She would outright kill them, but they would come back afterwards like in IN.

Keine can't really erase anyone from existence or even close to it. It seems fairly clear that Yukari was able to see the village while Reimu was not. But Reimu does mention that there should be a village here.

[Colticide]

Keine can't really erase anyone from existence or even close to it. It seems fairly clear that Yukari was able to see the village while Reimu was not. But Reimu does mention that there should be a village here.

Her human form can hide things, but her EX form can create history. She could create a history where someone wasn't in, that won't kill them but their history is changed/gone. (Isn't that what she did in IN Extra?) Hence why I said she has something close.

[Drake]

I summarized Keine's ability in this post. I can get more detailed if needed because it's largely based on what ZUN meant by "history" and it isn't super obvious. In any case, she couldn't wipe someone from existence without killing them through some other means and then covering it up by later recording something else. Removing or rewriting their history (of when they're still around) when people already know what happened doesn't work.

Anyways, the bit about Flandre is totally wrong, yeah. It's a fairly straightforward destructive ability, and is described in BAiJR and PMiSS. She can magically find a point of "tension" in an object, target it from afar, and break it; destroying the object. That's all. Obviously Kaguya and Mokou would die, but the Hourai Elixir is far above physical damage.

[game2011]

Okay, so that person claims that Flandre's ability doesn't actually make things explode, but that "the explosion is only a side effect of the destruction of something's very being." S/he says that if it were him/her, s/he'd imagine that her targets disintegrate instead.

As far as I'm concerned, Flandre only used her ability in canon once to destroy a meteorite, which exploded, so is that really good enough to conclude that her targets really do explode?

Thanks in advance!

[Sagus]

Well, in her EoSD profile, it's said that when she attacks humans, she tends to blown them away without leaving behind even a spot of blood, which could mean either that she uses her ability and the end result is her prey pretty much vanishing, or she just uses overwhelming vampire strength which ends up with the human evaporating.

Still, considering that the meteor that she destroys doesn't just vanish, it's likely that the results of her ability is just the target blowing up, yeah.

[Drake]

"the destruction of something's very being."

They're the one that has to substantiate this. Saying that it doesn't make things exactly "explode" might be considered correct-ish since it's about breaking the target's "eye" (a magical point of "tension") and what actually happens to it is completely ambiguous. Regardless, how the target is destroyed isn't relevant to what they're claiming; they can explode, disintegrate, burn up, or whatever, and it's still just physical damage. You cannot kill people of Hourai by destroying their bodies. They need to support making that rather large leap to something beyond the physical (and magical, really), and if they really had a good argument for that they would have given it from the beginning. What convinced them that this was the case in the first place?

If anything, the one instance of a meteor being destroyed and having the pieces rain down, immediately shuts down the claim that it destroys the object's "being", whatever that actually means.

[Clarste]

They're the one that has to substantiate this. Saying that it doesn't make things exactly "explode" might be considered correct-ish since it's about breaking the target's "eye" (a magical point of "tension") and what actually happens to it is completely ambiguous. Regardless, how the target is destroyed isn't relevant to what they're claiming; they can explode, disintegrate, burn up, or whatever, and it's still just physical damage. You cannot kill people of Hourai by destroying their bodies. They need to support making that rather large leap to something beyond the physical (and magical, really), and if they really had a good argument for that they would have given it from the beginning. What convinced them that this was the case in the first place?

If anything, the one instance of a meteor being destroyed and having the pieces rain down, immediately shuts down the claim that it destroys the object's "being", whatever that actually means.

Probably confusing it with a similar ability from Tsukihime/Kara no Kyoukai. In which targeting the magical weak points specifically bypasses immortality.