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cuc · « **Reply #390 on:** October 20, 2014, 11:58:35 AM »

Also if you know anything about bamboos (they generally flower at decades long fixed intervals and then die; the one Sakuya used here has a 60-year interval), you know this is a quietly morbid ending.

Camilo113 · « **Reply #391 on:** October 22, 2014, 02:13:06 AM »

Wow! Thanks! I didn't know where she used time acceleration, but now it's all clear xD and it seems in some of her Fighting Game Spell Cards and Skill Cards she also uses this kind of trick...

cuc, Drake and Clarste are my idols!! They're like Touhou Canon Omniscient Beings! xDDD

I have another question. It's stated in the wiki, and I also read in several other places, that the eyes inside Yukari's Gaps are the "manifestation of how desires are swirling around".

I would like to know: where does this statement comes from?

michikaze · « **Reply #392 on:** October 22, 2014, 11:49:33 PM »

Is sm2932797 lost forever?

If I can read properly, it's モグモグフヨード's second video. I missed my chance to see it then it still was available.

Maybe I should create separate thread for that?

Drake · « **Reply #393 on:** October 23, 2014, 12:09:03 AM »

Mogufuyo took down all his stuff, deleted his nico account and stopped making videos a while ago. His site also stopped reference to his videos. Some of his stuff is available again from reuploads.
俺の走り is available at sm9826849.

game2011 · « **Reply #394 on:** October 29, 2014, 03:13:11 PM »

I remember there being a translation thread before...

Anyway, can anyone please translate for me the titles of these two vocal remixes?
少女が見る深層領域
雷々伝々

The second one seems to be "Thunder's Legend" or something.

Thanks in advance!

TwilightsCall · « **Reply #395 on:** November 01, 2014, 03:54:48 AM »

Quote from: game2011 on October 29, 2014, 03:13:11 PM

I remember there being a translation thread before...

Anyway, can anyone please translate for me the titles of these two vocal remixes?
少女が見る深層領域
 雷々伝々

The second one seems to be "Thunder's Legend" or something.

Thanks in advance!

I would probably do something like

"The Great Depths the Girl Saw"
"Thunderous Legend"

I took some small liberties with those though, since more literal translations sound either dumb or nonsensical imo!

Validon98 · « **Reply #396 on:** November 01, 2014, 04:42:44 AM »

Does anyone know why on the wiki "Charming Domination" has been changed to "Youkai Domination" when the second title is an inaccurate translation? The kanji in the song title are the same as the third and fourth kanji in the game's title, and although "you" is in there, "kai" isn't (it would be romanized as "youyou bakko"), so why is it "Youkai Domination"?

Romantique Tp · « **Reply #397 on:** November 01, 2014, 04:56:41 AM »

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Music#Translation_of_.E5.A6.96.E3.80.85.E8.B7.8B.E6.89.88

Validon98 · « **Reply #398 on:** November 01, 2014, 05:03:05 AM »

Ehh... even if that's the case overall I don't agree that "youkai" is the best word to have there, especially since the translations of the same kanji used in the title of the game and the fifth stage theme are different. Youyou just doesn't equal youkai to me, it's more akin to "ghostly" as implied by the title of the game, especially since the Extra stage takes place in the Netherworld. I guess it's just a nitpick of mine, but it just feels like it's going too broad for the actual meaning of "youyou."

Drake · « **Reply #399 on:** November 01, 2014, 05:37:04 AM »

Then post on the talk page about it. I agree with the assessment made in the page so far, but I also am not too keen on using youkai explicitly. Using two different words in different contexts isn't a bother, though.

Personally I like the really old translation of Phantasms' Domination, because it coincidentally carries the meanings of 妖 and 妖怪 and is also a reference to the stage.

Funnily, this has made me notice the blurb in the afterword:
妖怪に始まり、あらゆる妖の者が好き勝手している世界。
Which is certainly not "The world where, starting with youkai, every possible youkai-like beings prevail", but instead should be "A world where, beginning with youkai, all kinds of mystical beings do as they please".

GoKonRin · « **Reply #400 on:** November 01, 2014, 07:20:36 AM »

Is there any official information about the approximate location of Spring Path? I'm trying to figure out the route in GFW that makes the most sense geographically. It seems to make sense to start off at misty lake because that is where Cirno lives and where she found out her house (I find it a bit weird that an ice fairy lives in a house for some reason...) destroyed. But I'm not sure if she should reach the forest of magic first or spring path first

Drake · « **Reply #401 on:** November 01, 2014, 09:29:31 AM »

The location of many areas of Gensokyo in relation to each other often aren't very well-defined. If anything, all you can say is that the Spring Path is close to the Misty Lake or the Forest of Magic or both. It's also hard to say if she would start looking near her house first, or head for the Forest of Magic, which is where the Fairies lived at the time.

This really might just be done on purpose in order to have ambiguity between which route makes the most sense. The Forest of Magic is somewhat by the Human Village, and the Misty Lake is at the base of Youkai Mountain. That's about it.

CyberAngel · « **Reply #402 on:** November 01, 2014, 01:08:51 PM »

The joke with Spring Path is that even Cirno herself isn't sure why she's heading there.

If you still want a more or less definite location and are okay with a theory, here's how I've always seen it. First off, Spring Path looks like it's the same location as the Extra stage, only with a different color, which can be explained by a different time of day, and with a different name, but there are strong associations between spring and sakura. While Extra stage location isn't definitely known either, we know it's a path that Marisa took while returning from a flower viewing. And where else would a flower viewing that involves Marisa be but the Hakurei Shrine? Of course, all this is just a conjecture, but it's as good one as any could be.

zellking · « **Reply #403 on:** November 02, 2014, 02:02:57 PM »

Hi, reasonably new here (usually found around the garage experiments board), and i have a question about a certain song maker known as JynX
(if this doesn't fit on this board, tell me, it seemed like the right place when i was looking at each of the boards)
anyway, this guy does videos or remixed touhou games from PC-98 and makes music for them, a good example being his lotus land story video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5DWji_X0c
anyway, the question i want to ask, i'm searching for a way to purchase the songs from the video, and I think i've found the album that they belong too, but am uncertain as I couldn't find a place to listen to enough of it to find out if the songs from that video are on it.
The album I believe they are on is this one:
http://mugenri.blog.shinobi.jp/%E6%9C%AA%E9%81%B8%E6%8A%9E/%E5%A4%8F%E8%BE%BC%E3%81%BF%E9%A0%92%E5%B8%83%E7%89%A9%E8%A9%B3%E7%B4%B0%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E3%81%A0%E3%82%88%E3%82%88%E3%82%93
with the name of 現樂団の往古2 ～束方懐幻想郷～ (i think)
has anyone heard this album?, mainly interested in whether or not it includes the songs from the video above as it is from the same guy and has remixes of the songs in question

Also, further apologies if the question is weird/written weirdly, I don't write on forums very much :ohdear:

Biakmon · « **Reply #404 on:** November 06, 2014, 06:18:33 PM »

Something come to mind, how come all those new arrive youkai who just come in Gensokyo (to cause an incident or whatsoever) seems to generally follow the spell card system as if they new about the spell card rules beforehand?

- Another important thing I wanted to know and have some clarification about, as far as I know there no absolute reason(s) that youkai (e.g. youkai living in hell like Oni, etc.) or other entities (like Tenshi/Yamas) living outside Gensokyo have to strictly abide by the spell card rules system (or even follow it at all) and thus spare the life of the loser, etc..., isn't it?

- This mainly means that all of those till now ultimately chose to do so (like Watatsuki no Yorihime) irrespectively of the reason, isn't it?

CyberAngel · « **Reply #405 on:** November 06, 2014, 07:58:31 PM »

Quote from: Biakmon on November 06, 2014, 06:18:33 PM

Something come to mind, how come all those new arrive youkai who just come in Gensokyo (to cause an incident or whatsoever) seems to generally follow the spell card system as if they new about the spell card rules beforehand?

- Another important thing I wanted to know and have some clarification about, as far as I know there no absolute reason(s) that youkai (e.g. youkai living in hell like Oni, etc.) or other entities (like Tenshi/Yamas) living outside Gensokyo have to strictly abide by the spell card rules system (or even follow it at all) and thus spare the life of the loser, etc..., isn't it?

- This mainly means that all of those till now ultimately chose to do so (like Watatsuki no Yorihime) irrespectively of the reason, isn't it?

Nobody knows for sure. Maybe the rules magically apply by default, maybe the heroines explain them to every boss that wouldn't know them, maybe they are already known beyond Gensokyo. But it's likely that whoever you are, if you're in Gensokyo they always apply fully, that's their whole point. No way to tell how much they apply in "neighbourhooding" worlds (Netherworld, Heaven, Hell, Makai), we just know they don't really apply on the moon and Yorihime just gave everyone a sporting chance.

Tiamat · « **Reply #406 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:45:45 PM »

I can understand how there might possibly be something "magical" about the spell card contract, if only because I find it VERY hard to imagine a truckton of youkai following the rules otherwise, but... it still makes it odd that Byakuren, who was fought outside of Gensokyo and was isolated from it (as well as any contact with anyone from it), used them. Me myself, I personally just file it under the "Whatever. Just don't think about it too hard" category.

Sagus · « **Reply #407 on:** November 07, 2014, 05:46:01 PM »

I'd guess Byakuren simply used non-lethal magic to duel (which would be in-character for her, I think). Magic that was suspiciously similar to spell cards.

But yeah, it's best not think too hard about it.

Colticide · « **Reply #408 on:** November 07, 2014, 08:21:51 PM »

I like to think of the

Spoiler:

fight in Rei Reimu videos where they fight legit but Reimu or the other heroine explains the way they fight now. What we see in the game could just be the latter and from a gameplay perspective the former is excluded.

cuc · « **Reply #409 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:29:04 AM »

Quote from: Drake on November 01, 2014, 05:37:04 AM

妖怪に始まり、あらゆる妖の者が好き勝手している世界。
"A world where, beginning with youkai, all kinds of mystical beings do as they please".

The issue with translating 妖 as "mystical" is that the word "mystical" tends towards the positive in English, when 妖 is negative: it's seductive, morally ruinous, or at very least uncanny. I'd render the 妖の者 here as "sorcerous beings", and the general term 妖術 as "sorcery" or "sorcerous arts".

Reddyne · « **Reply #410 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:35:44 AM »

Paraphrased from a conversation yesterday:
"Thanks."
"To Ant, Fang, and You."
"Haha. Do we even know who Ant and Fang are?"
"No but someone's probably stalked ZUN enough to find out."

Do we know who Ant and Fang are?

Drake · « **Reply #411 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:45:25 AM »

Quote from: cuc on November 10, 2014, 12:29:04 AM

The issue with translating 妖 as "mystical" is that the word "mystical" tends towards the positive in English, when 妖 is negative: it's seductive, morally ruinous, or at very least uncanny. I'd render the 妖の者 here as "sorcerous beings", and the general term 妖術 as "sorcery" or "sorcerous arts".

One of the problems with the term is that it doesn't seem to have a good english counterpart for any one situation. I definitely get what you're saying; I did choose "phantasm" just above but I don't think "phantasmal beings" fits here either.

cuc · « **Reply #412 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:28:56 AM »

In English, "uncanny" is the closest to 妖 in the ayakashi sense. Unfortunately it's also not a practical word to use in most contexts.

Quote from: Reddyne on November 10, 2014, 12:35:44 AM

Paraphrased from a conversation yesterday:
"Thanks."
"To Ant, Fang, and You."
"Haha. Do we even know who Ant and Fang are?"
"No but someone's probably stalked ZUN enough to find out."

Do we know who Ant and Fang are?

No, we don't.

Prime32 · « **Reply #413 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:43:55 AM »

Quote from: cuc on November 10, 2014, 12:29:04 AM

The issue with translating 妖 as "mystical" is that the word "mystical" tends towards the positive in English, when 妖 is negative: it's seductive, morally ruinous, or at very least uncanny.

"Eldritch" then? It literally means "of the realm of the elves", in the old-school sense of horrifying monsters that eat children.

Romantique Tp · « **Reply #414 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:51:20 AM »

Quote from: Reddyne on November 10, 2014, 12:35:44 AM

Paraphrased from a conversation yesterday:
"Thanks."
"To Ant, Fang, and You."
"Haha. Do we even know who Ant and Fang are?"
"No but someone's probably stalked ZUN enough to find out."

Do we know who Ant and Fang are?

Ant = Ari
Fang = ga
And = to
You = U

It's a pun on arigatou.

Drake · « **Reply #415 on:** November 10, 2014, 02:08:40 AM »

preemptive response for people who didn't yet know this

cuc · « **Reply #416 on:** November 10, 2014, 03:05:32 AM »

Quote from: Not Bigode on November 10, 2014, 01:51:20 AM

Ant = Ari
Fang = ga
And = to
You = U

It's a pun on arigatou.

It was a fun theory. But in truth, IN was the only one that says "ant, fang and you". In EoSD it looks like this:

Quote

Special Thanks
ant
fang
and All Test Players
and you...

In PCB:

Quote

Special Thanks
ant
fang
pbg
and all test player
and you...

Now consider the following:

-The names "ant" and "fang" appeared in the games from EoSD (2002) to IN (development period from 2003 to 2004).
-In PoFV (2005), "ant" and "fang" disappeared from the Special Thanks section, replaced by four playtesters.
-Starting from MoF (2007), the only name in the Special Thanks section has been his girlfriend and later wife, Ki-san.
-These two people are neither part of the Seihou crew (like Ponchi/pbg is) nor on the list of his doujin friends (e.g. the folks who made Uwabami Breakers).

-After graduation in 1999, ZUN had been living in Taito's Ebina dormitory. His dormitory address was actually written as contact info in the game manuals.
-He moved out of the dormitory at the end of 2004 (source: ZUN's diary).

Quote from: Diary from Dec 11, 2004

冬コミ前だというのに引っ越しももうすぐ行います。しばらく不通になってしまうかも。

The Winter Comiket is near, however I will have to move soon. You might be unable be to contact me for a while.

It's quite reasonable to assume that ant and fang were his roommates/colleagues from the Taito dormitory, who helped playtest EoSD, PCB and IN. It'd be natural for them to never show up again afterwards.

Romantique Tp · « **Reply #417 on:** November 10, 2014, 03:45:57 AM »

Oh, I guess it was just a huge coincidence then.

Tengukami · « **Reply #418 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:23:48 PM »

Quote from: Prime32 on November 10, 2014, 01:43:55 AM

"Eldritch" then? It literally means "of the realm of the elves", in the old-school sense of horrifying monsters that eat children.

Please god no. This isn't Lovecraft.

the old guy · « **Reply #419 on:** November 12, 2014, 10:10:56 AM »

Why is Reimu ~~such a bit~~-er, i mean, ruder than she normally is in Wild and Horned Hermit? I mean, shes not normally the nicest person in canon ether, but in WaHH shes almost a outright con artist, who fails at anything having to do with her Shrine Duties, and is forced to come up with greedy scams to get followers to her shrine, and treats everyone coldly (But then again that's standard behavior for Reimu).

...O.K., maybe I'm over-exaggerating her personalty in WaHH a bit, sure, Reimu isn't exactly a saint in the other official manga and games ether*, but I'm pretty sure that anyone who compares Reimu in, say, Oriental Scared Place where she

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to her outright selfish and greedy actions in WaHH can see a bit of difference in characterization.

Does she just really hate Kasen and chooses to be a jerk around her just to spite her?
Or is it something else?

*After all, she does have a "shoot first, ask questions later" way of dealing with things.