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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #180 on: September 15, 2014, 08:14:30 PM »
Something I have been wondering even though WNSP has not yet been translated is... well... what exactly the game is asking when it tells you to solve the mystery. I ripped from the game the following image, which gives all of of the choices you can have.



I am aware that to the left its asking in which order each character's story happened, but I'm not quite sure what it's asking on the right. Can anyone translate what those terms are meant to be? It'd be nice to be able to understand what it's asking for, if only because I'm legitimately curious about the mystery of the game. ^^;
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #181 on: September 15, 2014, 10:47:44 PM »
Being vaguely hipster and not playing RSS Extra yet in favor of seeing if anything changed in the main game.

*FutoC is hilariously good at what she does and hilariously bad at what she doesn't.
*Chrysanthemum-tan's spell card is horribly designed and will wall you.
*Ruri's first nonspell is more difficult, as the rings now interlock more.
...but that was all I saw.  There's a chance Himemiko's opener was toned down, but I don't have the energy to look at the code right now.

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And... in terms of WNSP, I thought of it a bit more like Fairies of Sorcery than Great Fairy Wars, but either way, the game's... not too hard either, and I've already 1cced it on Hard (with Reimu A). I still want to 1cc both laps on Hard with Marisa and Sanae, though. ^^;
Lunatic is a pretty reasonable step over Hard.  There are several really silly moments in Lunatic.

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Attempting to play any of the Extra mid-bosses spells in Spell Practice causes me to play the first one every time.  I mean, I'm getting pretty consistent at that first spell, but...

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No hypers extra clear 1/1, sightreading the back half of the extra boss.

Now if only I can do it without dying... :V

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Clearing Spell Card 9 in Spell Practice does not register as a clear.  I still show 0/4 and I'm pretty positive I captured it three times.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #182 on: September 15, 2014, 11:35:42 PM »
First try extra clear. Pretty close though, with 0/0 left.

Soo... anyone mind telling me the story behind the extra boss, and how Mumumu is involved? :V

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #183 on: September 16, 2014, 07:29:27 PM »
Haha, oh geez.

I just noticed that Futo C's Hyper Mode allows her to slow down destructible bullets around her to a snail's pace.

The screen just ends up being filled with bullets during bad lunatic runs.

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #184 on: September 17, 2014, 03:06:22 AM »
Hey guys, I was playing on Hard with FutoB I think, at the stage 4 on Mizumiko's 5th stage when I noticed that if I go to the center of the screen I wouldn't be killed until that circle of seals become very very small. Is that a glitch? I got almost 3k graze points on the spell practice doing that with the Hard Difficult (you can download the replay file on this message's attachments.

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #185 on: September 17, 2014, 03:14:01 AM »
The point of that card is that the timer does not go down while you are past the seals, which is tempting, since the bullets get absorbed by the seals. Kinda lame, but not a glitch.

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #186 on: September 17, 2014, 03:15:03 AM »
I got confused the first time I did it too. It's a survival card. If you're inside the seals, the timer stops counting down, but the waves continue to get harder. In other words, you can't win if you stay in the circle, and the longer you stay in the circle the harder the spell gets. But there are some really dense waves where it's easier to just skip it (by hiding in the circle) rather than try and micrododge it. I think it's a silly spell card.

Unless you already knew that and had a different concern  :blush:

EDIT: Ahh too slow...What ^they said!
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #187 on: September 17, 2014, 07:31:45 PM »
Can anyone translate what those terms are meant to be? It'd be nice to be able to understand what it's asking for, if only because I'm legitimately curious about the mystery of the game. ^^;

得敏 is Tokubi, Reimu's sidekick.
白菊 is Shiragiku, Marisa's sidekick.
皆故 is Minayu, Sanae's sidekick.

解決済 means if something is resolved and 決定 is just what you use to decide your choice.

Basically for every loop you have to choose which person was responsible for causing the event or if the event was already resolved.

stage 4 on Mizumiko's 5th stage

Funny thing about that spell is if you time it well you can get the countdown sound to infinitely loop in an ear-destroying manner.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #188 on: September 17, 2014, 08:24:05 PM »
得敏 is Tokubi, Reimu's sidekick.
白菊 is Shiragiku, Marisa's sidekick.
皆故 is Minayu, Sanae's sidekick.

解決済 means if something is resolved and 決定 is just what you use to decide your choice.

Basically for every loop you have to choose which person was responsible for causing the event or if the event was already resolved.

Oh... boy. This'll be fun once I can actually read the dialogue.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #189 on: September 18, 2014, 06:59:31 AM »
Sorry for double-posting, but on the most recent blog update, there's a few things:

An update on the OST for Riverbed Soul Saver to include the Extra stage songs
Riverbed Soul Saver 1.00d, which has some bug fixes
A link to all stand pictures for Riverbed Soul Saver on pixiv for some reason
A release of all text from White Names Spoiled Past to "help with reasoning" (!!!)
A link to the OST for White Names Spoiled Past

Hopefully the text thing will be useful for WNSP and figuring things out with that, and the 1.00d patch fixes the problem with the spell practice thing people were talking about.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #190 on: September 18, 2014, 07:24:36 AM »
Just because Jaimers made me curious about something earlier today, guess I should post this here:

[20:14:52] <Jaimers> I don't really understand how the hyper works
[20:15:08] <Jaimers> it seems to run out sooner if you kill more enemies
[23:40:26] <~Drake> Hyper gauge starts at 100, every frame is set to gauge - 100/(60*30), in other words hyper ends in 30 seconds
[23:41:01] <~Drake> however the gauge doesn't go down whenever 1) the player can't shoot, and 2) when there are no enemies existing
[23:41:51] <~Drake> so really it should run out slower when there are fewer enemies
[00:11:18] <~Drake> In a test of stage 1, I got 400 extra hyper frames by trying to speedkill

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #191 on: September 18, 2014, 11:30:45 AM »
Riverbed Soul Saver 1.00d, which has some bug fixes
Much needed, and appreciably quick in coming!

The hyper thing is interesting.  It's a great design idea for casual play, but to really utilize it in a route you have to put a lot more pressure on yourself to speedkill...

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #192 on: September 18, 2014, 11:52:58 AM »
Futo A's charge time seems to be decreased.

Can anyone read the script and  confirm that?


Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #193 on: September 18, 2014, 01:45:41 PM »
Wait, so if the extra boss is Yamato no Orochi, we still don't know who Ruri's master is supposed to be do we?
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #194 on: September 18, 2014, 06:29:27 PM »
Isn't it heavily implied that Yukari is? After all, Yukari did formed the space between the outside world and Gensokyo to prevent cases like Momohime's to happen (or at least delay them...) and Ruri says she is living there a long time ago
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #195 on: September 18, 2014, 08:12:17 PM »
Theoretically the Otherworld was only created a short while ago (sometime after Mystical Power Plant), so it wouldn't make sense that Ruri would have been living there a long time. I thought her dialogue anyways was more along the lines of having lived so long she forgot her master, or something like that.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #196 on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:51 PM »
Futo A's charge time seems to be decreased.

Can anyone read the script and  confirm that?
Denied.  60 frames / 150 frames / 300 frames.

The real question is who that character was in Marisa's bad ending.  C'mooooon team there are three more difficulty levels in the code and one of them is Phantasm~

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #197 on: September 19, 2014, 05:29:13 AM »
Denied.  60 frames / 150 frames / 300 frames.


quote from #94 on: June 29, 2014, 05:32:36 pm

Some more information along these lines - it takes 60 frames (one second) to charge it to Lv. 1, 150 frames (three seconds total) to charge it to Lv. 2, and 300 frames (eight seconds total) to charge it to Lv. 3. 


not eight seconds total .
60 150 300 means total.


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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #198 on: September 19, 2014, 05:49:06 AM »
150 frames is 2.5 seconds and 300 frames is 5 seconds.

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #199 on: September 19, 2014, 06:02:06 AM »
150 frames is 2.5 seconds and 300 frames is 5 seconds.

I mean , you may press Z for  5 seconds total to charge to level 3 , not 8.5 seconds total .
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #200 on: September 19, 2014, 11:04:27 AM »
Okay, I understand why you asked.

There was no change, I experienced a profound gap in critical thought in my observations, and I'm very sorry for stuffing that one up.

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #201 on: September 19, 2014, 09:15:30 PM »
The real question is who that character was in Marisa's bad ending.  C'mooooon team there are three more difficulty levels in the code and one of them is Phantasm~

Are you talking about the girls who were in the first scene underwater?
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #202 on: September 19, 2014, 09:31:55 PM »
I remembered that game existed, but I never played through it because as soon as I saw it was a take on Ten Desires, I stopped. I'll believe it wasn't their best work, but looking through some of their characters and stuff, I'm interested in them and the music of the game. I might give it a shot some time. ^^;
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #203 on: September 25, 2014, 02:51:46 AM »
Imma make this short and sweet. I downloaded the White Names file, I think it was an izh file, and I have no clue what the fuck to do with it. Can someone help me out please?

Geezus college has me tired. I didn't even realize that it wasn't the game...fuck..XD I'll just go find the DL link from a youtube vid. Off to Jaimer's youtube!
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #204 on: September 25, 2014, 03:45:45 AM »
It's an archive, so you can open it with an archive extractor, like 7zip.

The official download link is here.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #205 on: September 25, 2014, 03:49:24 AM »
Does anyone else's computer start to lag bad at stage 3? Mine drops to 30 fps when those orbs start to shoot lasers.

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #206 on: September 25, 2014, 04:51:27 AM »
Yeah, it lags for me there too. It's the only place in the game that really lags, though. The rest is pretty okay.
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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #207 on: September 28, 2014, 12:45:09 AM »
Riverbed Soul Saver v1.01d has been released.  I think it's a patch of FutoB.  Also, bearing in mind that I'm using Google Translate, it kind of looks like the update also says "if you're having trouble running this game at speed, get a better computer".

Also, Riverbed Soul Saver Extra ~ No Deaths, No Hypers, All Spells Captured

It seems like WNSP is next, then.  I have to stop myself from typing QWOP each time

Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #208 on: September 28, 2014, 12:53:50 AM »
It's an archive, so you can open it with an archive extractor, like 7zip.

The official download link is here.

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Re: 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver (From the makers of TLC and MPP!)
« Reply #209 on: September 29, 2014, 02:22:15 PM »
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Riverbed_Soul_Saver/Story/Marisa_and_Patchouli%27s_Scenario#Stage_5


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