Touhou Gameplay Help Thread #7 - Not just for spell card help after all

[Cream Soda]

One line of bullets in each exploding ring is aimed at you. If you're just doing survival, you can stay near the left and slowly move downward so you dodge the rings, hit the enemies, and collect the items. After the rings, you can either memorize where the enemies appear  and shoot them, or just misdirect/stream their shots.

[superkawaii☆pandora-chan♥]

I'm quite aware of that, it's just that sometimes I can dodge all the lines of bullets successfully and other times I died, usually from the third green line of bullets  :V So yeah  :V

[Nameschonvergeben]

I'm quite aware of that, it's just that sometimes I can dodge all the lines of bullets successfully and other times I died, usually from the third green line of bullets  :V So yeah  :V

What are you expecting us to do about inconsistencies in your play? The explained method is definitely consistent, so if you still die you have to practice. You won't improve just from asking how to get good

[Pakken11]

What are you expecting us to do about inconsistencies in your play? The explained method is definitely consistent, so if you still die you have to practice. You won't improve just from asking how to get good

Ain't that quite the mean reply :/

Are you playing it on Lunatic? If not, start from bottom left and very slowly (while focused, tap right with the sound of each shot) move towards the right. Bomb when you reach the end, and with the correct timing you should be able to kill the final yellow fairy that gives a full 1.00 power, getting back your bomb.

If you ARE playing on Lunatic, start the same way but you'll need to turn once the crystal bullets start. What I usually do is count about four crystal shots, dash diagonally towards above the bottom right corner, then start moving the other way. Once again, you can time a bomb for safety and get it back.

...or you could just memorize the spawn points like the video lol ._.;;

[superkawaii☆pandora-chan♥]

Thanks, both of you 

@Nameschonvergeben: Nothing, really. Just to see if there's any tricks to get through that part more consistent, or even safer alternatives for that situation, that's all 

@Pakken11: Thanks for the alternatives 

[Koog]

I need help for Reimu in general in IN.
And Sanae in MoF for her first and third spell.

[Sakurei]

For Reimu: Post a replay so we can see if your strategies are bad of if you just can't dodge

For Sanae's attacks: The former is completely static. Look at a replay and copy movement. The latter always opens the same and then may change slightly depending on your movement, but it would be static if her movement was the same every time. Memorize how the stars unfold.

[Koog]

Just played again. Lost at Kanako's final spell!!! F*** MoF.

[LunaWillow]

Just played again. Lost at Kanako's final spell!!! F*** MoF.

It's not THAT hard :V
I usually lost one life/bomb one time in here. Rarely capture. No idea how to explain it. Just... Feel da bullets!

[Nolegs the Cat]

On Easy they're actually aimed around you, so you can just ignore them entirely.

...granted, I bomb them all the time on Easy since it's worth so much to spawnpoint-graze all four at once. (Strangely, only their edges are grazeable, not their center.)

That's because only their outsides actually have a hitbox.
I know this because in one of my SA normal 1ccs I went inside one of them without dying. I then proceeded to fly to the side in a panic and die like a fool. :V
Replay here if you want to see it.

Anyway... Scarlet Meister. What do? I typically try to misdirect between the two sides but that typically just gets me walled on the second or third barrage :l

[Mero]

Scarlet Meister. What do? I typically try to misdirect between the two sides but that typically just gets me walled on the second or third barrage :l

Bomb. No, seriously, bomb.
Misdirecting is the way to deal with this card, but it's still very hard dodging and you have to dodge around 5 waves total

[pokemon123]

this is going to sound moronic but when you summon a ufo does the multiplier only affect the point items that the ufo collected or does it permanently  affect the value of point items?

[SomeGuy712x]

this is going to sound moronic but when you summon a ufo does the multiplier only affect the point items that the ufo collected or does it permanently  affect the value of point items?

It just affects only the items it's collected. So, for example, let's say you summon a blue UFO, and then you let it absorb enough items so that it's "full". At that point, destroying it before it escapes will multiply the value of the items it had collected by 8, but it doesn't actually change the current point item value. You would just get 8x the points of the items it had absorbed and that's it. (However, collecting a UFO token while there is a summoned UFO present will increase the point item value by 1000, but that's not related to the multiplier or any absorbed items.)

[Koog]

I've been practising Kanako... Still losing 5 lives...
Need help on her spellcards...

[Valar]

I've been practising Kanako... Still losing 5 lives...
Need help on her spellcards...

I think you need to practice mixing focused and unfocused dodging. There are some good spells for that in games with spell practice mode. Try to capture: Sukuna's "Attack on Dwarf" and some Miko's and Reimu's cards. Worked for me)

[Pakken11]

Bomb. No, seriously, bomb.
Misdirecting is the way to deal with this card, but it's still very hard dodging and you have to dodge around 5 waves total

This. Especially if it's Lunatic.

[Drake]

On Easy they're actually aimed around you, so you can just ignore them entirely.

...granted, I bomb them all the time on Easy since it's worth so much to spawnpoint-graze all four at once. (Strangely, only their edges are grazeable, not their center.)

Older post, but if you haven't noticed by now, the wheels are actually a handful of spirits in a circle that just spin around really really fast, hence why the "edge" is the dangerous part.

[Mikuru]

Any tips for Prism Concerto?

[SerB18]

How do you deal with Yoshika`s irritating ability to heal herself during a Spell Card? I mean, playing as Youmu in TD on Lunatic is a death sentence.

[Nolegs the Cat]

How do you deal with Yoshika`s irritating ability to heal herself during a Spell Card? I mean, playing as Youmu in TD on Lunatic is a death sentence.

Heal by Desire - everything is aimed except the rings Yoshika fires. Just stream it while dodging the rings.

Score Desire Eater - trying to capture it is far more trouble then it's worth. Just stick near the back and time it out, dodging each wave as it comes and it's not that hard.

[MrL1193]

Any tips for Prism Concerto?

I'm assuming from the name that you're referring to the Normal (or Easy) version of the Prismrivers' second-to-last spellcard.

Generally speaking, your best bet is to stay in one of the bottom corners, right at the edge of the "cone" in which the sisters can redirect the bullets straight down. This will keep you fairly safe during the first part of each cycle, but be on your guard during the second part, since the bullets will approach you both vertically and horizontally. Usually, if you can survive one cycle, you'll be able to capture the card before having to deal with the hard part a second time.

[Nolegs the Cat]

How do you do Brilliant Dragon Bullet consistently?
It took me 35 attempts to capture in practice :V

I know the lasers are static... but I'm not sure how helpful it would be to memorize the way they come down because the random rainbow bullets means you have to move to a variety of places, and while the direction is aimed at you the corona when it reaches you would vary by the distance between you and Kaguya.

[ふねん1]

How do you do Brilliant Dragon Bullet consistently?
It took me 35 attempts to capture in practice :V

I know the lasers are static... but I'm not sure how helpful it would be to memorize the way they come down because the random rainbow bullets means you have to move to a variety of places, and while the direction is aimed at you the corona when it reaches you would vary by the distance between you and Kaguya.

Number 1 thing is don't try to dodge stuff at the bottom unless you really have to. Stay higher up and try to dodge as many of the round bullets as you can before the lasers reach you. It's still recommended that you try to keep track of where the lasers are going as well - the sound when Kaguya fires each wave is pretty distinctive. Here's a demonstration.

[Mr Jovial]

Knowing the static nature of the lasers is actually kind of useful. Obviously it's aimed (the red arrow on this picture):

The useful part is that the biggest gaps in the lasers are on either side of wherever the lasers were aimed (just to the left and right of the red arrow on the picture). Ideally, you should go through those gaps since you do have a little bit of room to move in those making it harder to get trapped. That said, you shouldn't force yourself through those gaps since it might be safer to use another gap. That, and as Funen advised, you can go around lots of the regular bullets before the lasers reach you. Keep an eye out for thick clusters of bullets too, it's not difficult to get trapped.

[Koog]

Little help with Eirin's non-spell and Galaxy in a pot plz. Always lose 1 life on each

[LunaWillow]

Little help with Eirin's non-spell and Galaxy in a pot plz. Always lose 1 life on each

If you're talking about her midboss nonspell, it's quite easy when you figure it out. Stream it while being focus (It shouldn't be to hard. Bullets are very slow) and move through crisscrossing bullets. Unfocus while in corner and restream.

For Galaxy in the Pot: I usually start at the bottom of the screen and move up trough the gaps between lines of bullets, while watching things coming from my back. She should be dead in three cycles (I tested it only on Reimu/Yukari though). Replay showcasing this method here.
I tried other methods, like doing the same but starting under Eirin and going down but this method works the best for me, although there probably is a better one that I'm not aware of.

[Karisa]

There's a way to trivialize Galaxy in a Pot-- stay in the lower corner of the screen. The familiars on the bottom and side will despawn before they can shoot anything, so you only have to dodge bullets from 2 directions (and you can stream them back and forth). It does take a while though.

[Reiko]

Is there a reliable way to dodge Reimu's lv.2 and lv.3 attacks in PoDD ?
Seems to me that half of the time you have to tap-dodge left, and tap-dodge right the other half of the time...so I usually get hit half of the time.

[Nolegs the Cat]

What's the best way to tackle Black Magic "Event Horizon"?

Circle around with it or just micro-dodge at the center?

[Choco Beam]

Bottom center. Finishes the spellcard faster.