Author Topic: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2  (Read 184636 times)

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #420 on: August 31, 2009, 12:13:20 PM »
Nue's noncards are evil.....don't be afraid to bomb them, especially the 3rd one.

Though they are much more fun than the loldensestreaming which the early extra bosses have.

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #421 on: August 31, 2009, 02:15:52 PM »
Died three times - THREE TIMES - on Green UFO.

Nuff said.

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #422 on: August 31, 2009, 04:52:43 PM »
Ok... as of this evening, my history shows 1/47 on Byakuren's first card on lunatic... and I still haven't managed to unlock the stage for practice, which is why I was trying so hard in the first place. 

At least I didn't need 2 hours to get to stage 6, unlike the previous attempt... <.<


I'm beginning to develop a heavy dislike for Super Hijiri. The pattern is nothing really exciting, the card has much health and Byakuren moves all over the place, making it last awfully long. The bad part, however, is how the pattern consist of these glowing/translucent bullets that are hard to tell from one another when they overlap and then the boss moves so far down the screen that her white charge effect obscures them just as good as Nue's 7th card.

Oh well...
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #423 on: August 31, 2009, 07:18:02 PM »
One more game over at VoWG..

457kk this time...

that makes 22 i think, game overs at VoWG =)

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #424 on: August 31, 2009, 09:58:02 PM »
...Practice run of stage 6. Didn't die at all before I reached Yuyuko... Died EIGHT TIMES against her.

*sigh*

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #425 on: August 31, 2009, 10:23:31 PM »
One more game over at VoWG..

457kk this time...

that makes 22 i think, game overs at VoWG =)

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Holy crap, you went into Stage 6 with SIX SPARE LIVES?! @_@

Man, your ONLY problem is VoWG. You have everything else down brilliantly. I really, really strongly suggest you just go into Stage practice and practice Stage 6 repeatedly. When you get to VoWG, don't shoot and don't bomb. Just dodge only. You'll be dying very often until you get the hang of it but that really is the best way to learn how to dodge the waves of VoWG. Many times you bombed when you weren't even in any danger! I think you've fallen into the whole 'AHH IT'S VOWG SHIT CHRIST GODDAMN BOMB BOMB BOMB' way of thinking; judging from how you performed during the rest of the run and some of the dodges you managed when you ran out of bombs, you can easily clear VoWG, hell you could probably capture it at your current skill level, except you sort of... panic, I guess. I'm confident lack of practice/confidence at VoWG is literally the only thing stopping you from your 1cc. It has patterns, even if you don't notice it at first - get the hang of them and you'll be clearing it with much less difficulty. :)

And on a more rage-ish note... still haven't captured Peerless Wind God. <_<
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #426 on: August 31, 2009, 10:24:27 PM »
SIX LIVES!!???
Only time I got there I entered with 1, got a second one from score and got 4/5 through VoWG before dying.

Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #427 on: August 31, 2009, 11:57:07 PM »
I hate stage 4 MoF. I seriously think that if not for the abundance of bombs, the stage and boss would be impossible. I don't think I have ever gotten past the midboss without bombing. Also, I'm not sure if it's just my reflexes, but the deathbomb timer seems to be shorter in MoF than in any of the other games. Third: am I the only one who, while playing MoF, will try to graze during a boss's cards or non-cards at the expense of doing damage while forgetting that MoF doesn't care about grazes?

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #428 on: September 01, 2009, 12:08:43 AM »
Sapz...screw you.

You got me trying MoF Lunatic again.

I hate you now.

Besides the usual abundance of LOLWTF deaths on the first stage (MoF Stage 1 is an absolutely terrible stage, by the way), the first decent run clipped Lady Ohgane's Fire twice, the second got killed twice by the fairies at the beginning of stage 3, and the third clipped Nitori's second noncard...twice.  That's the one I'm usually pretty good at, for the record.

Then I got to stage 4 and suddenly was completely unable to bomb.  Game over'ed just before Aya.

By the way, since I used to be able to do it and now just autobomb it, HOW THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU DO BROKEN CHARM OF PROTECTION?  I kinda need the bombs...

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #429 on: September 01, 2009, 12:08:57 AM »
I hate stage 4 MoF. I seriously think that if not for the abundance of bombs, the stage and boss would be impossible. I don't think I have ever gotten past the midboss without bombing. Also, I'm not sure if it's just my reflexes, but the deathbomb timer seems to be shorter in MoF than in any of the other games. Third: am I the only one who, while playing MoF, will try to graze during a boss's cards or non-cards at the expense of doing damage while forgetting that MoF doesn't care about grazes?

Definitely not the only one!

80% of MoF attacks are aimed, it's really cool to graze at it =P
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #430 on: September 01, 2009, 12:37:35 AM »
Sapz...screw you.

You got me trying MoF Lunatic again.

I hate you now.

Heheheh. :D

Besides the usual abundance of LOLWTF deaths on the first stage (MoF Stage 1 is an absolutely terrible stage, by the way), the first decent run clipped Lady Ohgane's Fire twice, the second got killed twice by the fairies at the beginning of stage 3, and the third clipped Nitori's second noncard...twice.  That's the one I'm usually pretty good at, for the record.

Then I got to stage 4 and suddenly was completely unable to bomb.  Game over'ed just before Aya.

By the way, since I used to be able to do it and now just autobomb it, HOW THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU DO BROKEN CHARM OF PROTECTION?  I kinda need the bombs...

I agree, Stage 1 is terrible, and Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart is the worst spell card I have ever seen. And Broken Charm of Protection is annoying in the same way that most of the MoF cards are annoying... it's somewhat random which bullets fly where and when so it's sometimes really easy and sometimes it'll just screw you over. I don't think it will ever throw something really undodgeable at you like Peerless Bullshit God or anything but I think bombing it is the way to go on a 1cc run, unless you see a clear opening (assuming you use Reimu B you can kill it before the end of the second wave IIRC so you only really need to worry about dodging the first lot).

Having said that I have a tendency to paranoid-bomb anything that I think might clip me, but it's a working tactic, so hey. :V If you're set on capping it the best tactic I've found is to just stay slightly to the side of the bullet coming down the centre, and you're likely to find an opening.

Back to Stage 4 Practice... <_<
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #431 on: September 01, 2009, 03:11:58 AM »
...RAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stages 4-6 of PCB, I don't think anything else needs to be said...

Well, other than that this last run of PCB, I died FOUR random stupid deaths on stages 1-3... FOUR! GAAHH!!!!

Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #432 on: September 01, 2009, 03:21:27 AM »
...RAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stages 4-6 of PCB, I don't think anything else needs to be said...

Well, other than that this last run of PCB, I died FOUR random stupid deaths on stages 1-3... FOUR! GAAHH!!!!

Seriously, practice stage 4 a lot. It's just so damn long, and at first it took me over 10 tries just to reach stage 5. Bullet density is pretty high for the Easy difficulty. When I stopped dying with bombs in stock all the time it went rather well though.

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #433 on: September 01, 2009, 03:21:54 AM »
I HATE MoF STAGE 1 =(
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #434 on: September 01, 2009, 03:45:10 AM »
Well, other than that this last run of PCB, I died FOUR random stupid deaths on stages 1-3... FOUR! GAAHH!!!!

This afternoon I literally just sat and stared at it as one of the bullets on Phoenix Egg flew into me. Bombs in stock and everything.

I have no idea what my brain was doing at the time.

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #435 on: September 01, 2009, 03:48:21 AM »
This afternoon I literally just sat and stared at it as one of the bullets on Phoenix Egg flew into me. Bombs in stock and everything.

I have no idea what my brain was doing at the time.

I know exactly how you feel, trust me... =/

EDIT: Also, does anybody else ever feel like their bomb button sometimes just gets temporarliy broken for like half a second sometimes? .-. Seriously, sometimes I SEE THE BULLET COMING, hit the key, AND IT DOESN'T BOMB!!!
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #436 on: September 01, 2009, 04:13:27 AM »
EDIT: Also, does anybody else ever feel like their bomb button sometimes just gets temporarliy broken for like half a second sometimes? .-. Seriously, sometimes I SEE THE BULLET COMING, hit the key, AND IT DOESN'T BOMB!!!
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #437 on: September 01, 2009, 04:39:14 AM »
Anyway, since I kept hearing that PCB Normal wasn't much tougher than PCB Easy, I decided to try Easy mode again to see if I was just not doing as great as I had before... The results? 1CC WITH FOUR LIVES LEFT! And I hadn't ended up using nearly as many bombs as I do on Normal... And that's with two stupid random deaths thrown in ._. I have trouble getting past stage 5 on Normal... Seriously, I CANNOT understand why people think there's so little difference between the two difficulties... For me at least, it's enough to turn a lot of really easy cards into absolute nightmares...

For example: Foggy London Dolls (not really a nightmare, but definitely much tougher on Normal, though I still rarely die to it), Hino Phantasm (really pathetic on Easy, absolute panic on Normal), Five Signs of the Devas (that's right, I have a lot of trouble on Normal. No trouble whatsoever on Easy =/) Youmu's nonspells apart from the one with the knives, several of Yuyuko's cards... So yeah, I kinda think that Normal is WAY tougher than Easy >.<

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #438 on: September 01, 2009, 05:14:43 AM »
OOOOOOOOH. LFO LUNATIC. It had the tiniest sliver of life left. If Byakuren didn't become completely damage immune when you died on that card the death damage would have been enough to kill her.

I also just realized that in the five or so days since unlocking this stage I've fought Byakuren about 47 times. o_O THAT'S the kind of dedication I have to this series. Sadly, all I have to really show for it is that I can capture Superhuman consistently.

Yo Baity, mind explaining that last wave of Magical Butterfly? After the seventh laser shot? Your explanation last time didn't make much sense, and it's just too OMG to be reaction based.
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #439 on: September 01, 2009, 05:25:37 AM »
Argh, Shoot the Bullet is driving me insane. I have to capture 17 more cards to unlock Extra, and all of the ones that are left drive me crazy with their difficulty. gaaaaaaaaah ヽ(゜Д゜)ノ

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #440 on: September 01, 2009, 06:54:11 AM »
I also just realized that in the five or so days since unlocking this stage I've fought Byakuren about 47 times. o_O THAT'S the kind of dedication I have to this series. Sadly, all I have to really show for it is that I can capture Superhuman consistently.
Mine's in 3-4 days after unlocking with SanaeB  :V
Mind you, I want to specialize in UFO Lunatic as a bragging right more than anything else.

Yo Baity, mind explaining that last wave of Magical Butterfly? After the seventh laser shot? Your explanation last time didn't make much sense, and it's just too OMG to be reaction based.
It's either, you play by reaction, and move "in between" butterfly lines, or you move to where I marked the cross (i.e. the temp-safespot). Of course, the SC is mirror imaged so the other side works as well.
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #441 on: September 01, 2009, 08:46:28 AM »
Just realised something:

Before Green UFO: "Wow, that's easy..."
After Green UFO: "ZUN, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING???"
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #442 on: September 01, 2009, 11:25:23 AM »
S1 UFO Lunatic.

EDIT: Also, a fourth time that I messed up the 1cc, this time by dying to the S6 midboss because I thought I was fine. And bombing the S4 midboss because it walled me.
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #443 on: September 01, 2009, 01:23:47 PM »
Died to the fairies at the beginning of stage six on Easy.  Yes, you have to put in some effort to get hit by those bullets.  No other option but to restart and graze out those attacks all over again...we can only come out of this a better person!

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #444 on: September 01, 2009, 01:50:49 PM »
I praise your hard work! hahahaha
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #445 on: September 01, 2009, 06:24:11 PM »
So I want to go 1cc EoSD Normal before Hard...  I capture pretty much all the Hard spellcards that I can think of...  And what do I lose all my lives to?  I have no freaking idea.  No memorable deaths at all because they were all so stupid.  Time to go try again!  And again...  And again...

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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #446 on: September 01, 2009, 07:50:24 PM »
Goddamned Suwakos following me around everywhere, making my life miserable... *mutter mutter*

Also, I just noticed how MoF seems weirdly short compared to the other Touhou games... my 1cc replay is 22 minutes to PCB's 34 minutes. :V I mean, hell, the no focus Phantasm run I did was only five minutes shorter than that.
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #447 on: September 01, 2009, 07:52:13 PM »
PCB's bosses take a looooooooooong time to die =/

Today I'm angry at MoF's stage 1.

I tried about 10 times and always died at the first boss spell card
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #448 on: September 01, 2009, 08:48:25 PM »
Today I'm angry at MoF's stage 1.

I tried about 10 times and always died at the first boss spell card

That's because Autumn Sun & A Maiden's Heart is clipdeath-tastic.

Don't be afraid to bomb it, it's not like PCB where you HAVE to capture as many spellcards as possible to give you resources later.
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Re: Touhou RAGE Thread: Part 2
« Reply #449 on: September 01, 2009, 09:33:25 PM »
It sucks to clear a game when you're not even able to capture stage 1 spellcards lol

My record should be about 150/250 for this card =P
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