Author Topic: Omerta - Town of Mafia (Game over Scum wins) (Read 42914 times)

Dorian White · « **Reply #360 on:** February 28, 2014, 03:23:31 AM »

The end of day two

PX (1): Raikaria
Schezo (1): Nekonekorex
NekoNekoRex (6): Schezo, Serela, PX, Sky Paladin, Oarfish, Zakeri

Not voting: LOTS

The flavor missed the bus and will be late today.^^;;

Quote from: Doriano "The Rat" Grigio on February 22, 2014, 08:51:51 PM

You are Neko ?Prince of Cats? Capulet the local Racketeer.
Live can be so simple, let the others work to get money, all you need to do is to send your boys out to claim your share and if they refuse to pay ? well, accident happen. A few lambasted employees, some broken shop windows here, some gutted homes there and the payment morale is restored. The only thing that annoys you is the fact that most of your money goes to your boss but that can't be helped if you are just a henchman and a small-timer (vanilla town).

Or maybe not, cause you actually a member of the invading gang. You may not be as perfectly disguises as your boss but you are here for your ruthless resourcefulness. You forgot already more dirty tricks than most of the other had ever learned and you intent to keep them busy enough that they couldn?t even think about interfering in your plans. That makes you the manipulator (scum roleblocker) of your team.
You may prevent a player from acting at night by sending me a PM with: ?##Roleblock: player name?.
You may execute the factional kill of your team by sending me a PM with: ?##Kill: player name?.
You are also free to talk with your partner in crime here at all times: [QT]

You win when your gang (scum) equals or outnumbers the other (town), good luck.

It is now night two and you got 24 hours to sober up ? or something.

Dorian White · « **Reply #361 on:** March 01, 2014, 09:43:23 AM »

Well, that's what happen when you end the day on a time where I wouldn't be around for sure. >_> However ?

A new morning, and it starts again with a commotion. It seems like some poor wretch got badly thrashed last night and then dropped in to the river from a bridge.

Quote from: Doriano "The Rat" Grigio on February 22, 2014, 08:59:55 PM

You are PX ?Madman? Pierini the Leader of the local Raiding Party.
They say, ?the boss rules with a iron fist? and you know that it's true, cause you are said ?iron fist?. You have proven yourself as the most brutal and loyal of his henchman and so isn't it a surprise that he piked you for the real bloody work. There is no jeweler, no bank or hideout that was guarded enough that you couldn't shoot your way in nor were there ever enough cops that you couldn't shoot your way out again. Not only that it promoted you to the leader of the raiding party, it also lead you to the believe that there is no problem that you couldn't solve, with a gun. That makes you a lieutenant of the gang (town vigilante).
You may kill a player at night by sending me a PM with: ?##Kill: player name? but only once in the game.

You win when you took care (eliminated) of the troublemaker (scum), good luck.

It is now day three.

Raikaria · « **Reply #362 on:** March 01, 2014, 10:08:25 AM »

Wait, so I go to watch the LCS, and then go to sleep, and you guys have lynched mafia and had a cop claim without me, and PX claimed a One-Shot Vig and got well, shot.

So we know there's no SK unless we also have the most pro Doc ever.

Seriously that Day 2 was my least productive day ever. Good job town.

Schezo · « **Reply #363 on:** March 01, 2014, 10:13:22 AM »

yeah fuck this town for lynching scum. you're all a bunch of ASSHOLES!!1!1
word raikaria.

This deadline is 4am for me so this is gonna own.

Schezo · « **Reply #364 on:** March 01, 2014, 10:14:13 AM »

wait you said my not the. my bad

Raikaria · « **Reply #365 on:** March 01, 2014, 10:35:36 AM »

If town are gonna lynch scum I wanna be involved Schezo.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #366 on:** March 01, 2014, 11:23:05 AM »

Schezo, did you get to make another cop check last night?

Raikaria and Zakeri, you both heavily defended NNR (although so did confirmed towny Oarfish). What do you think of the other?

Raikaria · « **Reply #367 on:** March 01, 2014, 12:14:58 PM »

Eh? I never defended NNR. I said I'd lynch PX over him because PX had content that was what in Late Day 1 when he actually made content, while NNR had hardly any content at all. Minimal content with what there is being bad is worse than no content in my books.

That's not defending NNR, as far as I see. I said he was pretty bad, I just saw PX as worse. Saying I heavily defended NNR is a massive misrep. Show me where I 'heavily' defended him. Especially since I did not even post after the cop claim.

Zakeri I need time to re-read. Busy this afternoon, give read in evening. Mostly null atm.

Raikaria · « **Reply #368 on:** March 01, 2014, 12:20:32 PM »

Quote from: Raikaria on February 25, 2014, 05:20:36 PM

By and large I agree with NNR. Except the 'Bard is townie' part. I think Bard's case on me is really flawed. And as I keep stateing, when you can take the cornerstone of one's case upon someone, and replace the name of the person they are voting for with 3~4 different people, and it is still valid, it is not a good case. Also slightly worried that Bard is soft-defending Sky and Sky then 5 mins after he makes a case on NNR flips over and assures everyone Bard's case is good. That said it's far too soon to throw around any serious accusation of scumbuddying.

This is the one time I mentioned NNR in the thread, mid Day 1, when I agreed with what he was saying at the time, except his opinion on Bardiche.

I say I find it weird that you made a case on NNR only to flip to me 5 mins later.

Neither of these actions can possibly be seen as defending NNR.

Misrepping is bad. I did not defend NNR in any way, shape or form, let alone 'heavily' defend him. I need to check if Zakeri did now too, or if you're misrepping him too.

And throwing a castaway vote Mid Day 1 onto NNR and then flipping 5 mins later is explained if you are his scumbuddy who wanted to make himself look not. It was very weird behavior, as I pointed out D1.

##Vote: Sky_Paladin

Raikaria · « **Reply #369 on:** March 01, 2014, 12:21:44 PM »

This probobly falls into the *crazy conspiracy theory* zone so feel free to kick this case's teeth in people.

Raikaria · « **Reply #370 on:** March 01, 2014, 12:25:09 PM »

I will agree Zakeri however seemed to be supporting NNR, now I've done a quick Cntr-F for NNR in D2.

##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri

DNAbc · « **Reply #371 on:** March 01, 2014, 12:39:01 PM »

Okay guys, Zakeri hammered yesterday before I can even post. So I cannot possibly miss that ridiculously scummy move.

Justifications or lynch~ ty

Serela · « **Reply #372 on:** March 01, 2014, 01:12:26 PM »

I haven't reread D1 with NNR in mind yet (although I don't remember him getting much attention apart from one or two people)

But yeah, Zak defending NNR and then even quickhammering him to fast-forward the day afterwords... uhm. Maybe I need to rethink that soft townread I had >_>

Raikaria's case on SkyPal isn't too bad although I don't think scum would misrep something -that- badly, as it falls to pieces the moment anyone actually looks at Raikaria's actions.

(also even if I'm calling Zak out for it I'm kind of glad he just went ahead and quicklynched since NNR was caught!scum and hooray saving us 60 hours, I would have been gone literally the entire time n2 ended up occuring due to work anyway, still feel exhausted from it)

Serela · « **Reply #373 on:** March 01, 2014, 01:16:53 PM »

By the way schezo I noticed you posted do you have any more awesome cop results for us

Or are you one-shot?

ActionDan · « **Reply #374 on:** March 01, 2014, 01:22:57 PM »

Well, it seems glaringly obvious that there is no sk.

And scherzo is one shot clearly

Serela · « **Reply #375 on:** March 01, 2014, 01:27:06 PM »

So Dan I know d2 was only like 7 hours long which makes it forgivable, but you haven't talked about not-roles in a long time :C

DNAbc · « **Reply #376 on:** March 01, 2014, 02:03:50 PM »

While we are on the subject, I would also like to remark that I personally would prefer if Dan can speak more.

O4rfish · « **Reply #377 on:** March 01, 2014, 03:14:07 PM »

Oh my god, I am still alive. Hopefully I can make use of this.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #378 on:** March 01, 2014, 03:22:02 PM »

Just Gonna comment on my mis rep: absolutely. I had pegged Zak and Raikaria as scum and then staring at the thread all night I had massive confirmation bias and attributed posts to Raikaria that didn't even exist. Wow.

Actually there was something else I want to throw out there but I'm not sure how to say/ask without looking super scummy. Well I'll just do it.

Raikaria, it looked to me that you were crummbing that you had a role on day 1. Did I misread you twice in one night?

Im gonna sleep on it and see wha the world looks like tomorrow. I built up a big case on Raikaria but now it looks all confirmation biasy so I need to rethink.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #379 on:** March 01, 2014, 03:44:20 PM »

Basically

Because role blocker flipped only certain combinations of town roles and vt are available.

We already know MMVC. What's missing is one player may have one or two letters and another player may have one letter.

I have to sleep but my idea is...we can maybe verify Raik and one other roled TOWNY, or get another 1 v 1 with scum today. I dont wanna say how but if anyone spends a bit of time thinking about it they can probably work it out too.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #380 on:** March 01, 2014, 03:55:07 PM »

I don't want to know your role. I just want to know: I thought I saw you crumbing a power role. Is it true?

I will explain this and many more next episode.

O4rfish · « **Reply #381 on:** March 01, 2014, 03:56:08 PM »

the question: why did Cheez die?
The answer of course, is that Cheez was the only one who suspected NNR and ActionDan of working together.
In no other respect was Cheez more killable n1 than say Zak or Bard or Schezo.

Let's look at NNR and ActionDan interactions d1.
RVS ActionDan votes himself. CF7 asks why, for which crime NNR votes him.
Bard writes a post, Dan reads him as town, NNR says he needs more info for a read.
NNR writes a post, Dan reads him as town.
NNR asks Dan who he views as scummy, Dan says nobody.
Cheez writes his case on NNR based on him favoring Dan.
After no responses from NNR or Dan, Cheez switches to Raikaria.
Much later, NNR and Dan both make dodge posts. Dan never does post until more than 24 hours later.

Dan returns to the thread and calls Zak and Cheez scummy based on page 1 and 2, even though he had claimed to not be suspicious of anybody, at the bottom of page 2. He then votes Cheez because of Cheez's case on NNR.

I think NNR and ActionDan are 2/3 of the scumteam.
##Vote: ActionDan

Serela · « **Reply #382 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:06:54 PM »

With no SK and making the safe assumption Schezo is not filthy bussing scum, there is a Godfather+Goon left and out of the MMVC??? we have one more PR letter guaranteed, and either two Ts or two more PR letters.

But would you really want an unclaimed Doc, Cop, or roleblocker to claim?

Scum even have room to safely fakeclaim if there's two Ts in the lottery instead of zero.

I guess, though, that either full-cop Schezo or a doc/roleblocker/one-shot-cop-not-schezo could be considered confirmed town if they claimed now without a counterclaiming role appearing. (Not that Schezo needs to do such a thing) But they probably shouldn't unless they think they're probably getting lynched today, because the only result is eliminating them from our lynchlist. Plus I might be calculating this wrong and they might not be confirmtown from the claim >>

Serela · « **Reply #383 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:23:43 PM »

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/one-shot-cop-not-schezo

well no that's not possible at least not in confirmed-town-land

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #384 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:46:05 PM »

Half of the reason I was "Defending" NNR was because I just wanted to give Schezo a hard time The other half was of course I was town reading him and none of the other people that were going against him at the time.

Yes, I purposefully quickhammered, putting someone at L-1 like that is really tasty and It's rare for me to be town and think that might be a good idea at the same time (It happens a lot when I'm scum, but I never do it because I'm worried people will know I'm scum when it happens.)

Anything else I could say on the matter would just be blatant justification. "Better to let the results speak than try to argue against the wave" or "I would gladly sacrifice a roleblocker to catch lying scum" or some such bs.

Scum should really have trusted PX was telling the truth, because I think he might still have been a myslynch today while Schezo and Oarfish are still hanging around. I figured Schezo would have been the kill, since I don't think he claimed to be one-shot before the day ended. (Unsure about this)

People I have a strong town read on are (Not including Oar and Schezo) Serela, Raikaria, Bardiche's slot, and uhh, that's it really. Which makes the lynch pool myself, Action Dan, and someone I don't feel would make for a good or accurate case

##Vote: ActionDan
As far as second scum go, I feel like Oarfish's case on Dan has strong points to it.

ActionDan · « **Reply #385 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:47:10 PM »

Oarfish, when I read over something again, I may perhaps change my mind on things.

ActionDan · « **Reply #386 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:47:37 PM »

why does it feel like I'm the designated mislynch of the day.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #387 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:49:54 PM »

probably because you're not really making cases against other people.

ActionDan · « **Reply #388 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:56:05 PM »

the real answer is that I'm town and scum need to lynch town to win.

Anyway I have to leave but I have concluded that Schezo is really a cop and this wasn't a goonx2 + roleblocker massive gambit. Because that would be suicidal before PX claimed vig

ActionDan · « **Reply #389 on:** March 01, 2014, 04:56:36 PM »

which means combo of B's and D's remaining, anywhere from 1-3