Author Topic: Danmaku!! Let me AX you a question  (Read 228822 times)

Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #690 on: March 23, 2016, 07:29:06 PM »
Oh hey!  Nice to meet you.  Yeah, I know Quentcat from the Facebook group.  It looks like I'll be mailing a lot of games to your community, I really appreciate the support.  \

Also there are so many people on the Steam group that I've never spoken to, but they're quietly organizing games, it's a little unreal.

There's a Steam groupe? What's his name?


Duels huh?  Now I'm wondering how EX Boss VS Phantom Boss would go down.

Only try Heroine VS Stage Boss, I think EX Boss and Phantom Boss are too powerful but I'll try it.

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #691 on: March 23, 2016, 07:35:13 PM »
Steam group, not groupe/groupie, that means something else in English!  :V

The group is here:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DanmakuTTS

Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #692 on: March 24, 2016, 12:07:59 AM »
I played duel with both ex and phantom boss.

Verdicte, the phantom boss is too strong, he can control incidents so it's like there's an other enemy for the ex boss.

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #693 on: March 26, 2016, 02:06:35 PM »
Play this game with french guys trying to popular it on the french community, I love it !
Would be pretty nice if this caught on in the French community, because we're also part of it. Be sure to invite non-Touhou fans to try it out too!

By the way Moogs, is there any exact price for the game itself that you can give at this point, or do we wait on the Dominion-Tanto Cuore estimate until release?

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #694 on: March 26, 2016, 02:35:42 PM »
Yeah, it's going to be $34.99 USD for a game of Danmaku!!  Bonus is I don't have to charge you guys sales tax.

Unfortunately the shipping company has yet to get me an ETA, so it looks like it's going to be early April now which I'm frustrated about but there's nothing I can do and at least it's not several months delay like this was a Kickstarter.

Edit: Oh and if you're doing a big order for your club or something like Quentcat from Howard's club is doing, you will do it directly through me.
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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #695 on: March 26, 2016, 08:08:57 PM »
Would be pretty nice if this caught on in the French community, because we're also part of it. Be sure to invite non-Touhou fans to try it out too!

It would be nice.

We invite non-touhou fans too and they liked the game !

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #696 on: March 30, 2016, 02:52:01 AM »
Hell yeah, I worked my ass off this month so I have some extra money in the bank for once. I think I'm gonna treat myself to buying the game as soon as it releases.
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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #697 on: April 03, 2016, 06:50:17 AM »
Wild baka appear! ...again

So hello Moogs and Danmaku!! players

First of all, thank you ShadowNCS and Moogs for answers, buuuuuut
We have a little more questions <__> (seems we always will have questions)

1) Can Reisen use spell card of Remilia? (Like Reisen cancel and copy spell card, but spell card of Remilia cannot ba cancelled, so. Can Reisen with her spell card cancel and copy spell card of Remilia)

2) Can Miko activate her spell card during Tempest, in between discard cards and draw another? (Like if someone play Tempest, all players discard hands. But Miko can activate her spell card whenever her hand is empty, and it's empty due Tempest)

3)How calculate damage of spell card of Marisa, if she get her items banned due Nitori spell card? (Like Marisa has 4 Power Up, but Nitori use her spell card on Marisa and banned her items. Master Spark of Marisa now has 5 damage or 1, due her items have no effect)

4) Can Keine with her spell card cancel ability of Aya? (Like someone plays Last Word, Aya discard Shoot and cancel Last Word. Can Keine activate her spell card on Aya's Shoot and cancel it)

5) Can Utsuho and Alice activate spell card due ability before/after incident step, before draw cards step? (Like i play Utsuho, it's my turn. I wanna discard 2 cards and activate spell card. Can i do it before my incident step, after incident step, before draw cards step)

5a) "During her turn" phrase allow player plays ability of character/role in any time? Before incident, after incident, before draw cards?
(Like if i got Shoot in me due ability of Byakuren and i'm EX BOSS, can i reveal this role before i need graze/lose life.)

6) Can i check Supernatural Border and then cancel attack with Bomb?

7) When Keine cancel Korindou to someone, what cards need place into discard? (Like i play Korindou and discard 2 cards, but Keine cancel it with her spell card, what i need to do? Discard only Korindou and put cards into my hand, or discard Korindou and 2 cards)

Not so game question, but i was asked to ask this question
8) Is quantity of danmaku cards (shoots, laser shot etc) in deck is good and will be not changed?

Thank you again for patience and answers on our questions.
Hype of release is for real!

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #698 on: April 04, 2016, 03:08:40 PM »
1) Yes.  The Cancel doesn't work but the Copy does. 

2) Miko's ability triggers once the current Action is resolved.  The game doesn't really have a concept of interrupts, so once a card's sequence of events is kicked off it can't be stopped.

3) Marisa's Items still exist so they still count towards her Master Spark damage.  The same way Items disabled can also be the target of Borrow or Seal Away.

4) Keine's Spell Card only affects Action type cards.  Aya's Ability doesn't have a type besides Ability, so it can't be targeted.

5) No.  Unless it says otherwise like Miko's Ability, alternate Spell Card activations must take place when the Spell Card would normally be able to be activated.  For Action ones like Alice and Utsuho, this means during their main step.

5a) Yes.  This is the text of the final card:
True Form: Any time during your turn, if at least one other player has been defeated, you may reveal this role. If you do, replace it with the EX Boss Revealed role card and gain 1 life.

6) In the current PnP, No.  But this is changed in the Final version to be possible.

7) You lose the Kourindou but keep the cards you discarded to draw more.

The Attack/Defense ratios are different in the final, besides wording it was something we worked on the most.

These are the final numbers:
24 Shoot
14 Graze
6 Spiritual Attacks
6 Power
4 Seal Away
4 Bombs
2 Supernatural Border
2 Focus
2 1-Up
1 Last Word
1 Laser Shot
1 Melee
1 Capture Spell Card

Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #699 on: April 09, 2016, 11:32:32 AM »
Hello again, Moogs! Thank you very much for answers. Buuuut >__<
Yes, again i'm with questions

I was asking about cancel Korindou with Keine spell card, but suddenly we have similar question

How work cancel?
I mean if i Shoot into someone and add 3 Shoot more for additional range and it's cancelled with Bomb, how many Shoot i need discard, 4 or only 1?

Can ability of characters be cancelled or not?
And if yes, ability of what character may be cancelled?

I mean

Keine cannon cancel ability of Aya
Keine's Spell Card only affects Action type cards.  Aya's Ability doesn't have a type besides Ability, so it can't be targeted.

Aya cannot cancel ability of Youmu
No, that was a mistake in the card setup that has since been corrected.

But Keine can cancel ability of Reisen!
I'd say Keine can cancel the attack directed at her, since Reisen is targeting her with a "virtual" Shoot card, which still has the Action type.
Okay that was a lot of questions, and after double checking, ShadowNCS is correct about everything.

And how we can know type of ability? (Like action type ability, no type ability and so on)

Best regards and while waiting for release

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #700 on: April 09, 2016, 04:25:58 PM »
Keine cannon cancel ability of Aya
Aya cannot cancel ability of Youmu
But Keine can cancel ability of Reisen!
And how we can know type of ability? (Like action type ability, no type ability and so on)

Best regards and while waiting for release

I think I can answer this. Abilities never have types (they don't have an Action, Danmaku, Reaction or other regular icons), so they cannot be canceled. You have to look at what cards the ability involves, and in what way.
Aya's "shooting the bullet" cannot be cancelled, because although she uses an Action type card to cancel another card, she doesn't play that card, but discards it.
Aya cannot cancel Youmu's second, "virtual" attack, because that attack doesn't come directly from a card. She has to cancel Youmu's "original" shot in the first place. Same with Byakuren, her ability makes her discard a Danmaku card and not play one to create a virtual attack, so Aya can't cancel that attack.

Now the part about Keine is a bit confusing. The card I have simply states that "Reisen can attack another, different player in range", which should mean that it generates a virtual attack, like with Youmu or Byakuren, that cannot be canceled by Aya or Keine. Maybe ShadowNCS thought you were talking about Reisen's Spell Card?

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #701 on: April 09, 2016, 05:09:04 PM »
The card I have simply states that "Reisen can attack another, different player in range", which should mean that it generates a virtual attack, like with Youmu or Byakuren, that cannot be canceled by Aya or Keine. Maybe ShadowNCS thought you were talking about Reisen's Spell Card?

I was talking about Reisen's passive ability back then, at least I think so from reading over that passage again. Maybe Moogs misunderstood me and confirmed something false?
I'm just a regular player, so none of my statements are necessarily 100% correct, but they're what we've come up with during our hours of playing this game (and from asking Moogs ourselves).

Keine cannot cancel ability of Aya
That is correct. Keine's ability states that she can cancel any Action Card being played, but Aya discards a card for her effect.

Aya cannot cancel ability of Youmu
That is correct as well. Aya's ability states that she can "cancel any Danmaku Card as it is being played". That infers that the card, well, needs to be taken from your hand and put down onto the table, at least that's my definition of "play a card".
Youmu's passive, however, duplicates a card (with a different target), so to say, meaning it is technically not being played, thus falls out of Aya's territory. Aya can still cancel the original Danmaku card, though, and with that, also stop Youmu's ability from triggering.

But Keine can cancel ability of Reisen!
... aaand I just debunked my own rules, as Keine's Spell Card also talks about "playing a card".

The only difference I can see here is that in Youmu's case, she creates a new virtual card for attacking, whereas for Reisen, she "redirects" her old attack to a new target.
But on a rules level, both of those abilities should be treated the same way, as there are no rules for "redirecting" (not that this word ever appears on any card).

Either the text on some of the cards is old and says something different now that explains the difference in treatment (and what I said back then was a lucky positive) or something went wrong here. Or I'm missing something.

But yeah, seems like only the Mystery Parfait team can answer this question. ^^;

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #702 on: April 09, 2016, 07:12:07 PM »
No, I simply got version confusion from back when Reisen got to choose new targets when she missed.  I was wrong to confirm that NCS was correct.

Reisen, Youmu, and Yukari were all changed to generate an attack when their given condition is met for this reason.  This is an attack without a card, it doesn't have types and can only be reacted to by things that react to attacks (Example: Byakuren). 

You'll probably hear me refer to this as a "Basic Attack" sometime, it doesn't have an official name in the rules but that's what I call it when designing stuff, it's a holdover from my D&D days.

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #703 on: April 09, 2016, 10:55:27 PM »
No, I simply got version confusion from back when Reisen got to choose new targets when she missed.  I was wrong to confirm that NCS was correct.

Ah, okay, I must have remembered that version as well, then. Or at least I remembered how we handled Reisen back when that was her ability.
At least that clears up the confusion from earlier. ^^

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #704 on: April 28, 2016, 02:53:47 PM »
NM look below
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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #705 on: April 29, 2016, 01:29:04 AM »
RELEASE POST

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Danmaku!! is now on sale!  Click Below!


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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #706 on: April 29, 2016, 03:48:14 AM »
Wonderful job! Already ordered a copy!

And of course the release post would have Lily White.

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« Reply #707 on: April 29, 2016, 03:49:56 AM »
Leap into her tender embrace

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #708 on: April 29, 2016, 04:27:57 AM »
TAKE MY MONEY MOOGS
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« Reply #709 on: April 29, 2016, 04:30:32 AM »
Yes Ma'am/Sir/Frisk!

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #710 on: April 29, 2016, 04:33:33 AM »
You've done pretty well if people are asking you to take their money!

I put in my order as well, so. IT'S SPRING, HYYYYPE

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« Reply #711 on: April 29, 2016, 04:34:55 AM »
Congratulations on the release!!  :toot:

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #712 on: April 29, 2016, 04:49:24 AM »
AGH MY DEBIT CARD WONT VERIFY ON PAYPAL OF ALL THE TIMES FOR IT NOT TO WORK WHY NOW

I CANT THROW MONEY LIKE THIS
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« Reply #713 on: April 29, 2016, 04:51:06 AM »
If you're using verified by visa you can skip that step.  At least I could last time I used it on newegg, I hate that crap

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« Reply #714 on: April 29, 2016, 04:53:31 AM »
I dunno how to skip it though, I put it all the info right and it just errors out and asks me to put in the info again. :/

EDIT FIGURED IT OUT I REMEMBERED I ACTUALLY MADE A PAYPAL ACCOUNT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND NEVER USED IT

EDIT2: I DID IT I THREW MONEY AT MOOGS
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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #715 on: April 29, 2016, 10:29:05 AM »
Congrats on the release of this awesome game!
That said, Danmaku HYPE!  :getdown:

Now I only need to convince people IRL to actually play the game with me. xD

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Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #716 on: April 29, 2016, 12:34:29 PM »
Buy buy buy buy buy buy buy. Congratulations on the release. Waiting warmly.
I made a PADHerder. It's probably out of date though.

Re: Danmaku!! RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #717 on: April 29, 2016, 05:16:36 PM »
:toot:

Now, if only I didn't live in the middle of nowhere...'

Eh, maybe when I get back to college. Bought nonetheless.

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« Reply #718 on: April 29, 2016, 10:46:13 PM »
I appreciate all of you "art book" buyers too!

Thanks so much everyone for your support

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« Reply #719 on: April 30, 2016, 03:19:20 PM »
YES

So uh, it seems like we'll be able to throw money at you not this weekend but within the week. When would we be receiving them in that case? I might need to get someone else to receive the packages depending on the arrival date, or place an order a little later in the worst case.
I actually have no idea how international bulk orders work, as in whether you need to pay customs or other things like that, I assume all that will be discussed with the person overseeing bulk orders.
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