Danmaku!! Let me AX you a question

[Moogs Parfait]

NCS is correct about everything except triggered ability order.  In the above example the defender draws first, and old Marisa would have stolen that card.

If you want to play the unstable version and are willing to accept the things that come with that, head to the steam  group.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DanmakuTTS

[Moogs Parfait]

Oh my, what do I find in my dA message box today, but Danmaku!! fanart?!

http://shadowncs.deviantart.com/art/Lily-DEATH-523567093

NCS is awesome

[Amew The Fox]

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[Big Fairy]

Thanks for the reply, NCS.
I think Moogs will be pleased to hear that I've tested the game with a dozen or so people that know nothing or practically nothing about Touhou, and that they loved it. Congratulations!

By the way, one spectator who knew a bit about Touhou asked where Flandre was. Will she be joining the roster in an expansion? I think I read somewhere that you're planning to add a dozen or something characters to the game, but I can't remember well.

[Moogs Parfait]

Woot! That's awesome to hear Big Fairy.

Currenlty planned are the Mobs and EX expansions.  Each expansion adds a special deck as well as several playable characters.  Mobs focuses on 1-2 stage bosses, and EX focuses on Final and EX bosses.  Flandre is likely to appear in the EX expansion. 

[Moogs Parfait]

A Kappa's religion.

Artist: Ibuki

Spiritual Attack is a new card in Danmaku?s latest version. It is another method of activating your spell card alongside Bomb. Unlike Bomb though it does not allow you to cancel attacks or spell cards. This allows the game to have more spellcard activations without disrupting game balance with too many counters, because Danmaku!! is most fun when you get to use your spell card!

[The Greatest Dog]

What will be the ratio between Spiritual Attacks and Bombs? A big part of Remilia's spell was that it couldn't be cancelled by other Bomb cards, but by reducing everybody's ability to cancel, I'm curious about what will happen to Remilia's popularity.

At the very least, Remilia's guaranteed damage won't feel as unique, since more spells will be thrown about without more cards to cancel them?

[Moogs Parfait]

Equal Spiritual Attacks and Bombs, 4 each.

There's also a weaker Spear the Gungnir called Laser Shot, it's a Danmaku card that cannot be avoided, only cancelled.

On the defense side, Supernatural Border is now 50% evasion but you lose it like a Power if you get hit.  And you can still avoid the attack portion of Spell Cards with Graze even if you can't avoid the effect.

[Suikama]

A Kappa's religion.

man, the internet has ruined that word for me :derp:

[Moogs Parfait]

When the religious leaders were arguing in SoPM was easily the worst moment for me.  "You're all so annoying, shut up!"

Also I like the word "Cucumberism"

[NekoNekoRex]

On the defense side, Supernatural Border is now 50% evasion but you lose it like a Power if you get hit.  And you can still avoid the attack portion of Spell Cards with Graze even if you can't avoid the effect.

50%? Like a coin flip? Imo it is usually a bad move to put luck-based elements in game based on strategy. From experience 50 translates to either "never" or "always"

[Moogs Parfait]

50%? Like a coin flip? Imo it is usually a bad move to put luck-based elements in game based on strategy. From experience 50 translates to either "never" or "always"

I do wish people would stop thinking of Danmaku as a super serious thing.  The RNG is completely intentional.

OH MY MADOKA, IT'S SPRING!

Ninamo brings Lily White to Danmaku!!, and Lily White brings SPRING!! to everyone!  You can find Ninamo's deviantArt page here http://ninamo-chan.deviantart.com/.  She's got lots of Touhou and Love Live art to check out!

[img width= height= alt=SPRING!" width="280" height="210" class="size-medium wp-image-801]http://danmaku.mysteryparfait.com/wp-content/uploads/48706188_p0_master1200-280x210.jpg[/img]

[img width= height= alt="Lily is Judgement" - Carrot" width="214" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-803]http://danmaku.mysteryparfait.com/wp-content/uploads/lilywhitecard-214x300.png[/img]

SPRING!!!!!

[ShadowNCS]

Once you've lost a game by only receiving damage from Lily White, you realize quickly that this game is just a game to have some good time with your friends. (That round was really amazing.)
Seriously, though, the entire incident deck with its randomness and game-changing factor should be evidence enough that this game isn't serious, IMO.

Although I have to agree on the "50% means always or never" part. But that's the fun of the game. Sometimes your border fails, and sometimes the border always works for your enemies.

[NekoNekoRex]

I do wish people would stop thinking of Danmaku as a super serious thing.  The RNG is completely intentional.

that's fair to think, but not everyone is so casual with games, even with good intentions. Mario Party is a game that ruins friendships, after all. Some people just naturally see competition in everything. (i admit to being this, in fact)

[Moogs Parfait]

that's fair to think, but not everyone is so casual with games, even with good intentions. Mario Party is a game that ruins friendships, after all. Some people just naturally see competition in everything. (i admit to being this, in fact)

Fortunately as a doujin work we get to make the game we want to make, which is not No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination.

[NekoNekoRex]

:/
I'm not saying you have to appeal to competitive gamers, I'm just saying adding random chance to a particular character's spellcard isn't the best design choice, random chance tends to lead to frustration because it's unreliable. The whole card-drawing aspect notwithstanding, since that's the core of the game.

You don't have to get super-defensive over this, cripes. It's just a nitpick. I'm not asking you to make your game the new Magic The Gathering here, I'm just pointing out what I consider a design flaw.

[The Greatest Dog]

Supernatural Border isn't a player's spell. It's a permanent card that anyone can draw.

Because there's no penalty associated with having it, it's a nice bonus when it procs and "oh well, guess I have to play a Graze like I normally would" when it doesn't.

[NekoNekoRex]

oh? Eh... I thought it was a spellcard. I guess that isn't such a big deal to nitpick on then.

[Zhelot]

^ The card in question

To be fair it used to be a 25% chance, which it was often forgotten. Forgetting it it less common now, especially since avoiding attacks triggers Remilia & Yukari's Passives.



Question though: When you Copy Melee, does the "effect" count as a card you can cancel?

[Moogs Parfait]

It took me a while to realize what you were asking, but yes Zhelot.

I'll see about normalizing the language for copying cards.

[Validon98]

Since when was there a melee card? In the last version that was up/the version for TTS, there wasn't such a card. I didn't even think any of the "new" cards or anything were downloadable or up anywhere. At least they aren't on the main site.

EDIT: Oh, because the stuff was all released for the Steam group (looking at it now), but... not announced here. I think it would have been a good idea to post the follow-up to the teaser in the thread, not just the teaser and then the actual content behind said teaser elsewhere. I honestly thought that when the teaser was posted, there was going to be a follow-up, and then there... wasn't.

[Firestorm29]

Actually, I think it's been in there the whole time. Atleast the beta version I have had it in it.

[Validon98]

I checked the version I have, which is the first TTS version back when it was first released (which is also a slightly updated version of the original print-and-play), and Melee's not in there. Safe to say it was recently added, probably in that version released in the Steam group a couple weeks back.

[Firestorm29]

Were there multiple versions of the box set? That was the beta tester I was referring to, and had a chuckle over that card.

[Validon98]

As far as I know, the print-and-play on the website had two versions, both before the major roles update. It was the second version of the print-and-play used for the original TTS file.

Speaking of the roles update, I took a look at them, and I think expanding the roles and making them able to be thrown in randomly like that makes for more varied games, and perhaps for better role-based mindgames. I'm looking forward to giving it a go with my friends. :V

[Moogs Parfait]

The steam group version is basically an "unstable" version I've been testing with the players there.  We've been waiting to update the main site until the rulebook and a bunch of other stuff is finished.  It's taken too long and I apologise for that but the delays have been beyond our control. 

Personally I feel like doing the unstable release was a bit of a mistake, as without a formalized up-to-date rulebook it's lead to endless questions :\

It did allow us to collect a lot of valuable data though.


Anyway, I ask for everyone's patience as we get everything sorted.  If you want to send feedback for the new version, contact@mysteryparfait.com is the team email. 

[Validon98]

Delays happen, can't do much about them. My only advice about this is that if you tease something in the thread, I guess try to follow up on it unless there is a very good reason not to? I actually was excited at the roles post a few weeks ago, then I figured maybe you forgot about it or something, only to find all of the stuff related to that was posted on the Steam group a good week or two after the teaser, which I can only imagine was due to said delays (and I only found that all today because I'm not a member of the group). Otherwise I dunno, I've never run a project like this myself, so I can only imagine the amount of work that's being put into it on all aspects, gameplay-related or no.

Other than that, though, I'm glad that things are progressing with the artwork (in terms of having it all done and everything) and getting the non-gameplay parts worked on too, so hey, keep up the good work, sorry if anything I've said's negative. ^^;

[Zhelot]

Oops, didn't realize I was supposed to keep the unstable steam version on the DL, I will say running & playing the unstable version has been a lot of fun, and has been a good opportunity to put the rubber to the road with different play-styles and familiarity with game syntax. Plus you get free QA, I mean you often have to pay for that sort of thing =).

[Moogs Parfait]

Oh no it's fine to share and such. 

I would like you to not call it the Steam version though, as that can lead to bad misunderstandings.

Aren't there companies that charge to be in the beta? I should do that!

[The Greatest Dog]

Would there happen to be print and play version of the unstable version? I'd like to try this out but in a physical setting with my friends and all.

I'm just -mostly- sure of all the rule changes after looking through the cards, but I can redirect more questions to you as always, right?