Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe  (Read 122397 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #870 on: February 11, 2014, 03:20:46 AM »
Dark ripper (chaos devil dragon) is devil type. That plus two sonias and ... I guess orochi for hp? You might have to rank up a bunch in order to assemble the team though.

I thought Oro was physical. I don't know any super easy to get subs though. Maybe joker?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #871 on: February 11, 2014, 03:23:34 AM »
His ultimate is devil

Also wtf extreme dragon rush is luck based as fuck. You either bring a defense breaker and risk it being useless or don't bring it and risk being walled

and the last sonia team sub should be king baddie
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #872 on: February 11, 2014, 03:38:24 AM »
uuuugh i dunno if i really want to do much this event

if the godfest is good i will cry

i just want some chiyome skill ups but they're not coming (and black pirate looks like hell)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #873 on: February 11, 2014, 03:41:52 AM »
wAIT WHAT HERA IS IN THREE DAYS

NO

NOT FAIR AT ALL I'M STILL NOT READY

I STILL HAVE A KING BUBBLIE TO MAKE AND I HAVE NO SAPPHIRE DRAGONS ARGH

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #874 on: February 11, 2014, 03:52:03 AM »
You don't really need king bubblie for tamadrapurin cause it already has a damage multiplier ability and you can't stack them

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #875 on: February 11, 2014, 03:56:06 AM »
...so damage multipliers don't stack even if the multiplier isn't even relevant to the other one? Damn. Well, hopefully I can pull it off, then >.<

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #876 on: February 11, 2014, 04:00:51 AM »
You don't really need king bubblie for tamadrapurin cause it already has a damage multiplier ability and you can't stack them

Why do Valk teams have King Shynee on them, then? If they don't stack there'd be no point, but it's a popular team build so there must be some reason for it.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #877 on: February 11, 2014, 04:02:01 AM »
Why do Valk teams have King Shynee on them, then? If they don't stack there'd be no point, but it's a popular team build so there must be some reason for it.
what? King shynee is the only damage multiplier ability on the team...

...so damage multipliers don't stack even if the multiplier isn't even relevant to the other one? Damn. Well, hopefully I can pull it off, then >.<
all direct damage multipliers that give you a little icon in the top right can't be stacked. You can stack different abilities though like defense + reflect + Bastet cats + damage
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #878 on: February 11, 2014, 04:06:11 AM »
all direct damage multipliers that give you a little icon in the top right can't be stacked. You can stack different abilities though like defense + reflect + Bastet cats + damage

And then I had to go look at Purin again to see what the issue was because I thought it was its leader skill being talked about. :V

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #879 on: February 11, 2014, 04:09:06 AM »
I think what the point is is that I can't use TAMADRApurin's Pom Princess (2x to all light types) and King Bubblie's Physical Enhancement in the same turn.

And now that I think of it, that's fine. My team so far is hardly Physical anyway. Not until I start getting some good Light Physicals like Shouki and Machine Golem, at least. At least Breakers is coming up again and I must get a Machine Golem then.

edit: never mind i am slow

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #880 on: February 11, 2014, 04:11:32 AM »
So what are you going to try to clear Hera with? I'm presuming purin ecchi and top droid for Neptune and them some light subs?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #881 on: February 11, 2014, 04:24:28 AM »
So what are you going to try to clear Hera with? I'm presuming purin ecchi and top droid for Neptune and them some light subs?

Would she really need topdroid for neptune? I thought 12.25 would be enough to kill it. Isn't that how valkyries do it?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #882 on: February 11, 2014, 04:34:52 AM »
I fear that may have to be the case. This team is super-squishy and can and will probably die from one hit, so I have to take out as much as I possibly can.

Meanwhile I'm looking at a slow-but sure Drawn Joker - 4x RK or 3x RK + Echidna build to be paired with Lucifer. Getting past the first floors will be hell, but I should be okay fine against the gods...

I also have an Awoken Odin and Arashi has a lovely Amaterasu! Perhaps I can work with those too?

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #883 on: February 11, 2014, 04:36:07 AM »
Depends. You'd have to manually crunch the numbers yourself to find out what combo threshold you have to pass to beat him with whatever team your using. Also might take an orb changer active which would be problematic if not max skilled

Odin AMA works fine I think as long as you have enough hp and rcv on ammy

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #884 on: February 11, 2014, 04:40:37 AM »
Depends. You'd have to manually crunch the numbers yourself to find out what combo threshold you have to pass to beat him with whatever team your using. Also might take an orb changer active which would be problematic if not max skilled

Odin AMA works fine I think as long as you have enough hp and rcv on ammy

Yeah, Hades is usually the guy that decides that. You'll need around 16.somethingk to not get oneshot by him.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #885 on: February 11, 2014, 04:44:47 AM »
Orochi IS physical, but Sonia doesn't multiply hp so her team needs some subs with good hp. Since you don't have many good devil mons, put Orochi in there and his attack and receive won't get multiplied but he will fill out your team. Alternatively, use a Gigas or RGG or GtG.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #886 on: February 11, 2014, 04:53:38 AM »
The more I think about it, the more hopelessly unprepared this team is.

Meanwhile, I just remembered I also had a Love Deity Chaos Venus who could be useful, too! But really I'm starting to think Awoken Odin + Amaterasu may be the best option because at least once I get to the gods I'm more or less immortal. So potentially:

Awoken Odin, RK, RK , Hellray Harpie Demon, Witch of the Night Lilith with Amaterasu friend

or
Awoken Odin, RK, RK, Hellray Harpie Demon, Kuromi with Amaterasu friend

Lilith can slowly eat away at Neptune, while Kuromi can wreck his DEF altogether.

Really the biggest threat will be the first floors and Hades because I'm not sure if Odin's defenses are good enough to tank the hit...

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #887 on: February 11, 2014, 05:24:45 AM »
Well, according to PDX, You'll need at least 16427 health to tank Hades, unless they round up, then it's 164278.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #888 on: February 11, 2014, 05:30:39 AM »
Well, according to PDX, You'll need at least 16427 health to tank Hades, unless they round up, then it's 164278.

i think you could tank a lot more than hades if you had 164278 hp

edit: fuck i just realized tengu has a use for farming himes for hanzo skill ups

good thing i don't have hanzo yet
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #889 on: February 11, 2014, 12:17:57 PM »
i think you could tank a lot more than hades if you had 164278 hp

edit: fuck i just realized tengu has a use for farming himes for hanzo skill ups

good thing i don't have hanzo yet

16428 Ooops. Oh well, that's what I get for posting late. Though right now, I'm posting kinda early.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #890 on: February 11, 2014, 12:42:46 PM »
Matsuri: you could go dual Odins, or Odin/Nebra, or even Odin/Resist (Drawn Joker, Dark Roman god, CDD, etc). If you have one autoheal awakening on your team (odin or lilith maybe), you'll heal faster than any one boss can kill, assuming you make a heart match every twelve turns on Hades. Dual Odins means your helper might even supply that for you. I don't think Hellray will do much for you on the first four floors though. Need those hps for the demons.

Lilith is probably better than Kuromi.

Edit: the less resistance you have, the more you have to heal. Dual Odins is obviously best.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #891 on: February 11, 2014, 12:50:13 PM »
o shit hera

i think i'm ready

I THINK


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #892 on: February 11, 2014, 01:10:37 PM »
Matsuri: you could go dual Odins, or Odin/Nebra, or even Odin/Resist (Drawn Joker, Dark Roman god, CDD, etc). If you have one autoheal awakening on your team (odin or lilith maybe), you'll heal faster than any one boss can kill, assuming you make a heart match every twelve turns on Hades. Dual Odins means your helper might even supply that for you. I don't think Hellray will do much for you on the first four floors though. Need those hps for the demons.

Lilith is probably better than Kuromi.

Edit: the less resistance you have, the more you have to heal. Dual Odins is obviously best.

Hm, good point. I'll try dual Odins, but the only autoheal awakening I have on my team currently is Love Deity Chaos Venus. Which means a ton of cost that I can't fit right now. Hrm. If only the free tamadra started flowing a day earlier then I could get Odin's last awakening for that. Of course, I know I have at least one Odin friend that has a fully awoken one, so that's +1000 every turn...

My biggest concern is that those fucking demons attack every turn and I worry that I won't have the HP to deal with them if I go dual Odins like I would if I went dual Luci or resist/Luci. Being able to tank one hit would be nice, but when I have to deal with a few of them at a time...


EDIT: Super King Metals today and Sapphires/Super King Sapphires tomorrow. Hell yeah.
On the other hand, I'm fine with using some stones to get through the demons if it means a guaranteed Hera. After all, even spending five stones for something as good as Hera is better than throwing them into the Golems and Knights machine.

EDIT 2: On the other hand, I can set my own Odin aside, make my Love Deity Chaos Venus my lead, and fit three RKs and a Lilith on my team, and use someone else's Odin. How does that sound? That way I can at least deflect two kinds of devil/demon/knight damage and be pretty safe from Venus, Hades, and Hera herself because LDCV kind of makes light and dark damage a non-issue with Odin.

EDIT 3: Believe it or not my biggest concern is actually Ceres. She hits pretty hard for a two-turn enemy and even with 80% reduction she'll be hitting harder than I can auto-recover which means I *must* get heart matches in between turns and that makes me nervous because it's gonna be rough. Hrm. I can always drop one of the RKs for my maxed-out Kitty BadShynee which means +3000 HP and hearts every 8 turns, but then my HP will take a massive hit too. :s

What do you think?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #893 on: February 11, 2014, 02:12:45 PM »
The Venus, three keepers, Lilith and Odin sounds good. The good thing about three keepers is, for a two-turn monster, you can halve six hits out of ten and stagger the four other hits in between, so you have plenty of time to match hearts.

You can stack leader resists with one active shield. Resist awakenings also do something but I'm not sure on the order of operations there.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #894 on: February 11, 2014, 02:31:18 PM »
Well, it's worth a shot. Maybe I'll pump my two king golds and two super king golds into Venus instead of TAMADRApurin for the sake of this.

EDIT: also updated my padherder: http://www.padherder.com/user/Matsuri

EDIT2: I love how that did absolutely nothing. Gotta love Late Bloomers.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #895 on: February 11, 2014, 04:16:47 PM »
I don't know what your current plans are, but you could try just dual Odining and get through the first few rounds on heartmakers, nukes, and Odin stats.

EDIT: Forgot he doesn't heal enough. I think they buff the autoheal at some point to 1000 though.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #896 on: February 11, 2014, 04:58:46 PM »
I have an Amaterasu that auto heals well above Hera's damage on Odin, and I think it's just short of healing Hades' damage in six turns so basically if you can get one match of heart orbs in that time you're golden.
But you need HP to survive Hades in the first place...
Also Ocean of Heaven is a lot more fun with TAMADRApurin than Haku.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #897 on: February 11, 2014, 05:50:37 PM »
Aw yiss new Isis team can OHKO Keeper of Rainbow BV

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #898 on: February 11, 2014, 06:08:51 PM »
Aw yiss new Isis team can OHKO Keeper of Rainbow BV

Wow, they activated the new egyptian evos just in time!

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 6 - Dragon Call Me Maybe
« Reply #899 on: February 11, 2014, 06:09:28 PM »
Aw yiss new Isis team can OHKO Keeper of Rainbow BV

I remember that feeling. That was fun.

Also, finally updated Pad herder. I find that the less I use the teams, the more fun I had naming them.

EDIT: I think odds are good the godfest will be JP 2.0/Egyptians. What do you think?
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