Author Topic: Pocket Monsters Thread III - Game released almost everywhere (Read 85643 times)

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2014, 12:41:37 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on January 27, 2014, 12:33:41 PM

~~Dwebble learns Stealth Rock for passing it to Bug/Mineral mons.~~ Nevermind that is a Tutor Move on Gliscor.

I actually didn't play Gen 4 and 5 at all so I'm "not affected" by the lack of Pokebank or the apparent ban of transferred mons but I guess it's really frustrating for you people to wait this long and then still having to do all that breeding again just to redo what you already had.

And from what I can see there is a huge amount of moves from tutors in Blackwhite1/2, wow.
Let us just hope that with the (most likely) coming XY2/Z there will be replacements for those.

Well, I could hack the Pokemon and then transfer it, but... That just isn't right. I'm REALLY bummed by this, but not bummed enough hack it.
So yeah, that leaves me to breed a Staraptor, a Rotom and a Gligar in Generation 5. And I have to do this with a deadline of 5 Days, and because I have to go back to school, I'll have no time at all, so I better make every bloody second count.

Esifex · « **Reply #31 on:** January 27, 2014, 04:34:45 PM »

I don't suppose someone has an IV bred Honedge they don't need? Doesn't have to be perfect, I just wanna do a side-by-side comparison of this Aegislash I've got. I have no clue what the 'competitive' IVs for an Aegislash would be, but I'd probably want at least atk?
I don't have any IV bred mons to offer since I can't wrap my head around the concept, but I can offer, say, Vulpix or Growlithes

Yookie · « **Reply #32 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:01:10 PM »

I could lend you mine for a while to compare (but it is already an Aegislash, if that matters), but I'd want it back when you're done.

If you just want options for what IVs to put on it
then there's the standard full atk/hp, atk and both defenses equally, atk and one defensive stat (whatever your team needs) or you use it with a special-attack spread instead of atk or even mixed since it has enough bulk in shield form to live even a super-effective hit without investment in defense.

commandercool · « **Reply #33 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:15:24 PM »

Quote from: Esifex on January 27, 2014, 04:34:45 PM

I don't suppose someone has an IV bred Honedge they don't need? Doesn't have to be perfect, I just wanna do a side-by-side comparison of this Aegislash I've got. I have no clue what the 'competitive' IVs for an Aegislash would be, but I'd probably want at least atk?
I don't have any IV bred mons to offer since I can't wrap my head around the concept, but I can offer, say, Vulpix or Growlithes

Technically I would say you really should have Speed, Attack, and HP for sure, but the practical answer is "Aegislash basically has the same stats as Arceus anyway, so you could do whatever you want and it'll still be better than just about everything".

Yookie · « **Reply #34 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:21:41 PM »

The thing with going for speed on Aegislash is that should you outspeed your opponent and don't ohko you're basically dead. If you want to be faster there is always shadowsneak and with its 60 base there isn't even too much it could seriously outspeed.
It just hast this thing where if played correctly your opponent should never be capable of attacking you in blade forme which can't be done with too much speed.
But maybe I'm overlooking something.

commandercool · « **Reply #35 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:47:23 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on January 27, 2014, 06:21:41 PM

The thing with going for speed on Aegislash is that should you outspeed your opponent and don't ohko you're basically dead. If you want to be faster there is always shadowsneak and with its 60 base there isn't even too much it could seriously outspeed.
It just hast this thing where if played correctly your opponent should never be capable of attacking you in blade forme which can't be done with too much speed.
But maybe I'm overlooking something.

Speed for Aegislash is mostly for speed-tying other Aegislash when that inevitably comes up as far as I know.

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #36 on:** January 27, 2014, 08:02:11 PM »

I was able to learn how to breed in gen 5 and I already got an Impish 4IV Gligar with Immunity (even tough one of the IVs is Special Atack :V) So I'll move on to breeding Staraptor and Hydreigon for now (I gave up breeding Scyther because I think I can work with another move.)

Oh, does anyone happen to have a Pokemon in the "FLYING" Egg Group you can lend me?

Yookie · « **Reply #37 on:** January 27, 2014, 09:02:04 PM »

Gen 6 or 5?
If 6 then I'd have an Aerodactyle. (with suitable IVs)

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #38 on:** January 27, 2014, 09:32:35 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on January 27, 2014, 09:02:04 PM

Gen 6 or 5?
If 6 then I'd have an Aerodactyle. (with suitable IVs)

It's 6 in this case.
We can also use this moment to trade that 6IV Gligar with the Wrong nature, if you want.

Yookie · « **Reply #39 on:** January 27, 2014, 09:48:43 PM »

That we can do, so I'll just be online now.
You can also keep that Aerodactyle then.

We should really organize a chat for such things but unfortunately I'm absolutely incapable of both setting something like that up and using it. :V

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #40 on:** January 27, 2014, 10:29:29 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on January 27, 2014, 09:48:43 PM

That we can do, so I'll just be online now.
You can also keep that Aerodactyle then.

We should really organize a chat for such things but unfortunately I'm absolutely incapable of both setting something like that up and using it. :V

Skype/Facebook/Steam? You don't have any of these, mate?

Yookie · « **Reply #41 on:** January 27, 2014, 10:33:12 PM »

I've sent you a message with my Skype address.

Bio · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2014, 01:34:58 AM »

You run +Spe Max Spe with Autotomize. King's Shield isn't actually required on any set especially since people will just check you with Bishop or EQ. Mixed sets with a - SpDef nature is the norm with ideally 31 IVs in everything since we aren't running Gyro Ball or Hidden Powers. And then you can spread your EVs to hit certain thresholds.

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #43 on:** January 28, 2014, 01:37:17 PM »

I FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME THAT THIS GAME IS AN UNBALANCED MESS. It still is fun, but you just got to agree.

Esifex · « **Reply #44 on:** January 28, 2014, 02:13:29 PM »

...in addition to a bunch of us here, in the previous thread, in regards to clearly defined OU/Uber tiers?

commandercool · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2014, 03:00:51 PM »

Aside from the fact that defining "this game" is fairly difficult and that the Pokemon games are always so poorly balanced as to require extensive tiering, this is nothing particularly new.

Yookie · « **Reply #46 on:** January 29, 2014, 08:33:16 PM »

I've got a question about Ditto:
I usually see Imposter Dittos that are scarfed, which makes sense.

But there is this Ditto-exclusive Quick Powder where it says "...the holder's initial Speed stat is doubled."

I'm guessing now that it just increases Ditto's base Speed (which is irrelevant after transforming) instead of actual total Speed which is why Scarf is used instead.

Is it that or is the powder just "banned 'cus op" ?

Edit: I just found out by reading more about Transform: After changing it stops being Ditto and loses the benefit of the Powder.

Edit:

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:23:35 PM »

Okay, I'm breeding Deino here: Both Parents have the exact same IVS: HP, ATK, DEF, SPDEF, SPD. All I have to do is keep breeding them until the RNG randomly decides to make the SPATK perfect as well?

Raikaria · « **Reply #48 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:51:23 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on January 29, 2014, 08:33:16 PM

Edit:

So we got a decades to wait most likely.

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #49 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:14:21 PM »

Hey guess what, the RNG was kind to me and decided to give me perfect SPATK!
EXCEPT THE DESTINY KNOT WASN'T AND DIDN'T TRANSFER SPEED. AAAARGH. YOU HAD ONE JOB KNOT. ONE. JOB.
I could try to breed the -Speed Deino with the -Special Attack one, but It sill wouldn't transfer all of the IVs. I BE VERY MAD.
And about the bank, goddammit I'm running out of space. I'm about to fill the 31st box and I only have a few boxes that are only half full. I definitely don't have space to breed Staraptor and Rotom, even tough I think it won't be hard because I have a 6IV Aerodactyl (courtesy of Yookie) and my friend gave me a Ditto with the Correct IVs to breed Rotom. Come on, I won't even need to pay it, I'll simply just transfer all of the Leftover/Wonder Traded Pokemon I got from the leftovers to the bank and forget about them, then use the transferer to transfer all of my legenderies from Gen 4 and 5 To Gen 6 As quickly as possible.
I heard a few Rumours that it will come out this Monday, but yeah Emphasis on "RUMOURS."

Bio · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2014, 02:20:36 AM »

You can just release or WT them :l

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #51 on:** February 01, 2014, 10:13:06 AM »

Wonder trading doesn't actually get rid of them , and releasing them sounds kind of immoral... but i'll consider it, anyway.

Yookie · « **Reply #52 on:** February 01, 2014, 12:13:45 PM »

What I do most of the time is to just release everything below 3 proper IV and put the rest into wonder trade when breeding.

If you have qualms about releasing them then just think about how you're swamping the city with whatever you're breeding at that moment.
Imagine dozens of Snorlax lying around in Kiloude City or on Route 7. :V

InfernalExuro · « **Reply #53 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:25:08 PM »

I've never released a 'mon, not even the boatloads of Bunnelby and Flabebe that I always seem to get. Just never had the heart to do it. :V

Also, if anyone ever needs a fitepuppy, I have a female one with good IVs to breed. And some decent Oddishes with Synthesis if that's your thing.

Yookie · « **Reply #54 on:** February 01, 2014, 11:18:13 PM »

Stunfisk is the greatest Pokemon ever conceived. Let nobody try to convince you of the opposite.
It is especially great if you lead with a Zoroark disguised as a Stunfisk and manage to keep up the illusion until the enemies last mon.
Only to send in your actual Stunfisk and beat him.

Edit: Apparently Ditto cannot transform if its opposing a disguised Zoroark. Interesting

Bio · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2014, 02:12:57 AM »

I named my Stunfisk T-Wave. Zoroark is pretty great when disguised as Shedinja.

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2014, 03:32:14 PM »

What. (Replay)
Thanks, Showdown. if it wasn't for that I would've won that battle without almost having a heart attack. It's bad enough that Magic Bounce exists for cowards alike, but now it has to camouflage itself as other abilities?

commandercool · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:53:51 PM »

Quote from: Yookie on February 01, 2014, 11:18:13 PM

Stunfisk is the greatest Pokemon ever conceived. Let nobody try to convince you of the opposite.
It is especially great if you lead with a Zoroark disguised as a Stunfisk and manage to keep up the illusion until the enemies last mon.
Only to send in your actual Stunfisk and beat him.

Edit: Apparently Ditto cannot transform if its opposing a disguised Zoroark. Interesting

I'm in the process of EVing my shiny Stunfisk right now, and I have a second one on the way. I'll trade the extra for another shiny if you want it (and it ever actually shows up, because I've been waiting for a while).

Yookie · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:02:25 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 02, 2014, 04:53:51 PM

I'll trade the extra for another shiny if you want it (and it ever actually shows up, because I've been waiting for a while).

Many thanks for the offer but I don't actually have any shinies I could part with. And I'm fine with the one I have since it also got some (probably not so special :V) eggmoves.

Bio · « **Reply #59 on:** February 04, 2014, 10:06:23 AM »

IT HAPPENED.

POKEBANK IS OUT.

TRIAL UNTIL MARCH 14.

FOR PAL REGIONS CURRENTLY ONLY.

e: Jolly Celebi w/ HP/Def/SpA/SpD IVs

i.e. completely useless, I didn't really need Celebi anyway.

Author Topic: Pocket Monsters Thread III - Game released *almost* everywhere (Read 85643 times)

Author Topic: Pocket Monsters Thread III - Game released almost everywhere (Read 85643 times)