Pocket Monsters Thread III - Game released *almost* everywhere

[Bio]

Previous thread
POKEBANK IS NOW OUT FOR EVERYONE!

https://twitter.com/IsPokeBankOut/status/425775873896095744/photo/1

http://www.product-reviews.net/2014/01/21/pokemon-x-and-y-pokebank-us-uk-countdown-after-japan/

The wait begins for the rest of the world, eager to flood GTS with 6IV everythings.

Friend Codes
Post your preferred name, friend code and game version and I'll add it to the table below.

Name	Friend Code	Version	IGN
Bio	1134-7894-2606	X	Noire
Suikama	4425-1491-5645	Y
Trance	3883-5561-7702	X	Serika
Chaore	4570-7511-6543	Y	Puream
Keegster2	1418-7215-7869	Y
Matsuri	3067-4906-0948	X
Nobu	4270-0718-2053	X	Nobuko/Himeko
Xan	3222-5806-1297	X
commandercool	2964-8587-9806	Y	Blue
Raikaria	0834-1782-2667	Y	Elly
Red Frost	0388-0205-2932	Y	Cecilia
Skye	3738-0956-7708	Y	Keila
Phlegeth	3282-2913-0504	Y	Phlegeth
BSoD	2895-7562-2562	Y
Edible	4227-0814-4208	X
Molten	3265-5274-1401	Y
Savory	0387-9578-4918	X
sol35	5284-1917-5071	X	Eienko
Esifex	5429-7181-7829	Y	Erik
Bardiche	3926-5588-0324	?
Pasu	1950-7975-8774	X
capt. h	1435-3539-1313	Y
Shadou	0490-5728-2527	X
Dibble	3282-2247-4077	Y
Genso	4038-6283-8806	Y
Mister Sanity	4425-2614-3093	X
T-A-C	2165-5266-6153	X
Zork787	0748-2156-8970	X
Alchemist	5429-6759-3085	X
Catherpie	3024-5730-0545	Y
Minch	2423-2597-4752	X
Polaris	2251-5199-2177	X	Xavier
Bound	3136-6552-0029	X
Patorikku	2449-4726-9834	X	Nate Varner
Fast Fanatic	2578-3937-3854	Y
Alex	1392-5223-9479	X	Maribel
Yaersulf	5343-9023-2973	Y
Kwr32	3480-3530-4357	X
triangles	1676-5051-9468	?
JT	1392-4443-0026	?
FamilyTeam	3668-8814-5063	Y	Team
Nick G	0662-3160-6397	?	Nicktendonick
EyeM	3282-3148-5064	X	Cirnobyl
SirBlueberry	1418-7034-4502	Y	IF
Adol Christin	3153-4846-2473	X	Alex
Jana	0946-3424-2598	X	Jana
Endless Hunger	1822-0626-7569	?
Yookie	1822-0710-3636	?
Exuro	4785-5747-1485	X
Colticide	2466-2429-8747	X	Colt

If your name was missed or you wish to be added, post in the thread.

Battles & Stuff
I'll start a list of people here who can battle so they can sort themselves. Just post your timezone and times/days which you would usually be available to pit your imaginary monsters against each other. You should also throw in the format you can play, since surprisingly there are people who play Triple and Rotation.
FamilyTeam: Sat/Sun 8:00 - 23:00 UTC+3
Phlegeth: Anytime but 16:00 - 22:00 UTC-10

[InfernalExuro]

Oh hey, I never added mine to this.

Exuro, friend code is 4785-5747-1485, X version.

[FamilyTeam]

Breaking news mate: You typed the wrong bloody address on the old thread. It just leads to an empty page. I won't post my FC because it's already on the list.
Also, look at this cute little drawing that a girl named Briella Wand on Facebook made of my character: (Look at it because I said so)

And yeah, about the tournament I was talking about on the last thread: I'm going to be free to battle on Saturdays and Sundays pretty much all day: Between 8:00 and 23:00 UTC3. I may be able to battle on Friday Night too, but that's not a guarantee.

Something very imporant that I almost forgot to mention is that it will be DayLight Saving Time on Brazil up to around mid-February, so until then, I'll tecnically be up to battle between 9:00 and 24:00, but my clock will say its an hour earlier.

[Phlegeth]

I'm up for a battles or whatever.  I'm -5:00 EST.  I work evenings, so from like 1600-2200 is usually a bad time.

[commandercool]

Now that my team is done I guess my next project is to make a perfect copy of every single Poison Pokemon (even the terrible ones). I play against a lot of people who aren't "competitive", so it would be nice to have some backup options for if I want to power down my team, and it would give me options for rotation battles, which have been weirdly popular around here recently and which my current team is very poorly suited to.

I think the only thing I need at that point is a Speed Boost Whirlipede, so if anyone has one, I'll trade for it.

[Yookie]

The way Metagross enters a battle looks really cool.

On the topic of time: Timezone is UTC+1 and if I know in advance I usually have free time for stuff. But in general I can be online as long as it isn't in the dead of night. :V
Also my version is Y and in-game name Kazami. (since that is still missing. :p)

[FamilyTeam]

The nerf that Hydreigon got this generation was fucking stupid. I still use it and I can still do well with it, but really, why does the Fairy Type exists in the first place is strong against Dark Types and resists Bug types? When on EARTH is this balancing? It's not like Bug was underpowered enough?

[Yookie]

The resistance to Bug seems kind of unreasonable when looking at the Fairy type with its motifs of moon and purity and as such not really being related to bugs in a way it would resist. (If I were to be silly I could say that certain insects are active at night and for that Bug should resist Fairy. :V)

But Bug type seems to be what Steel and Poison used to be in terms of offense: Niche since too many commonly seen resistances and what it hits effectively is covered by different types. (Also most Grass types have a weird type combination that then still isn't weak against Bug)

[FamilyTeam]

All I can say is: Game Freak is probably taking balancing lessons from Valve and Infinity Ward.

HEY GUYS, I have news for the "time I'm up to battle" thing: On Saturdays, I'll probably have Japanese classes between 14:00 and 16:00, so yeah, I won't be able to battle on that time frame. Don't update the list, tough, since i don't really know if I'll have them. I'll touch again on the subject when I get more information on it.

[Bio]

Bug is strictly a STAB type outside of U-turn. You can compare it to Psychic. No one uses Psychic as coverage.

Hydration,  though nerfed, still is good as long as you take out their Fairy type.

[FamilyTeam]

Bug is strictly a STAB type outside of U-turn. You can compare it to Psychic. No one uses Psychic as coverage.

Hydration,  though nerved, still is good as long as you take out their Fairy type.

Yeah, not only that, I find that my Hydra outspeeds most fairy types anyway, so I can simply U-Turn out into something better for the situation.
Also, I created an account on Smogon, and I decided to post my team on the Rate My Team board to see what the Smogonites there think. No one has posted anything in my thread, and it's been over a day that it's there. I mean, I know my team is good, but it isn't PERFECT, and I didn't post it there just to catch praises to it!

[Raikaria]

The resistance to Bug seems kind of unreasonable when looking at the Fairy type with its motifs of moon and purity and as such not really being related to bugs in a way it would resist. (If I were to be silly I could say that certain insects are active at night and for that Bug should resist Fairy. :V)

Fairy has a lot of things that don't make sense since it's a balance bandage.

The Bug resist is intended as a nerf to U-Turn spam. Just like being outright immune to Dragon; while being weak to Poison and Steel; and resisted by Fire [Regarded as a bad defense type]

Actually when I think about it; something really bugs me about Steel resisting Psychic.

You think of Gen 1 Psychics. Ignore Mewtwo. Who comes to mind?

Alakazam.

What is Alakazam doing?

Holding spoons. Which it bends with it's mind.

Hell the Psychic-boost item is a TWISTEDSPOON.

Now think about that; and ask: How is Steel resistant to Psychic again? Oh wait; Steel and Dark were put in specifically to nerf Psychics. [Dark made sense to complete the Fear Trio of weaknesses]

[FamilyTeam]

Fairy has a lot of things that don't make sense since it's a balance bandage.

The Bug resist is intended as a nerf to U-Turn spam. Just like being outright immune to Dragon; while being weak to Poison and Steel; and resisted by Fire [Regarded as a bad defense type]

Actually when I think about it; something really bugs me about Steel resisting Psychic.

You think of Gen 1 Psychics. Ignore Mewtwo. Who comes to mind?

Alakazam.

What is Alakazam doing?

Holding spoons. Which it bends with it's mind.

Hell the Psychic-boost item is a TWISTEDSPOON.

Now think about that; and ask: How is Steel resistant to Psychic again? Oh wait; Steel and Dark were put in specifically to nerf Psychics. [Dark made sense to complete the Fear Trio of weaknesses]

That just proves my theory:

All I can say is: Game Freak is probably taking balancing lessons from Valve and Infinity Ward.

Also, I still haven't bred my team. Goddammit, I don't have much time left. It doesn't help either that I decided to change from Haxorus to Hydreigon. I alteast hope breeding it won't be difficult, since I already have a 5IV Axew, and it is in the same egg group. NO WAIT OF COURSE IT WILL BE, I'm trying to breed a 5IV Gligar, the parents are a 5IV Scyther -(HP) and a 2 IV Gligar (-ATK,DFC,SPATK,SPDFC,) And yet the best baby I got has 3 IVs, and I can't use because it has Hyper Cutter. Marvelous, thanks stupid RNG.

[Yookie]

It is so great when you want to try out your weird-as-fk set containing attract and setup for following team members and everyone you face either has a team of 6 legendaries without gender, carries only male mons or leads with something that isn't impressed by taunt.
What are the odds.
Oh, and somebody quasi-swept my team using Sheer Cold. Lovely.
RNG really tends to like me a lot lately in battle. At least I seem to get lucky with breeding. :V

And the thing with the spoons never crossed my mind.

[FamilyTeam]

By sheer (sorry for the pun Yookie, I think that memory will be like a flashback to 'nam to you) dumb luck I was able to get a 6IV Gligar with Immunity here. Now all I need is Rotom and I'll be golden!
Wait...
OH YOU MOTHERFU-
DOES ANYONE HAPPEN TO HAVE A DITTO FRIEND SAFARI HERE?

[Yookie]

Ya, thanks. :V

And good luck with the Rotom. (Prepare your directional pad)
Also: Thanks to the random person i got that Feebas from through wonder trade. Milotic ist just so good.

[FamilyTeam]

I looked at the Glilgar's nature.
It was Quiet.
I forgot to put the everstone in it.
I've never regreted not putting an Everstone in a Pokemon so much before.

[Yookie]

Special sweeper Gligar go!

I absolutely didn't notice that I already have 16 Mons in my roster. :V

And stall battles are fun (really, no sarcasm). Thankfully I have an endless supply of patience.
But I still couldn't get my Attract-setup Noivern to work. I'll just keep him in that sixth slot till it does.

[FamilyTeam]

Okay, I finally got an Impish 5IV Gligar (-SPATK) with Immunity! Anyone here wants the 6IV One? I'll wonder trade it at the next Weekend if none of you claim it.

[Yookie]

Well, I'd take it. I can offer a Ferroseed (with Leachseed and Stealrock), Incay, Litwick (with Clear Smog) and/or Noybat each with 5 IV and useful nature.
Anybody else who wants one, feel free to message me.

[FamilyTeam]

Well, I'd take it. I can offer a Ferroseed (with Leachseed and Stealrock), Incay, Litwick (with Clear Smog) and/or Noybat each with 5 IV and useful nature.
Anybody else who wants one, feel free to message me.

Okay then. I guess it's fair, since you gave me that perfect Pampampampampam. I'll send you the invite ASAP. That Litwick would be nice.

[Yookie]

I feel like a bad person because I had my Vespiquen with +6 in both defenses on the field and my opponent couldn't kill it but he had 2 Steel types, a Gliscor and Heal Bell so I couldn't really toxic him but had to stall with Infestation, just used up his PP with Pressure and stretched the battle to more than 20 minutes this way. :V Nothing died, he gave up. (This is why you should always have a Hazer kids! (or toxic, but I got paralyzed by a random bodyslam anyway.))

And Zorua looks so damn smug.

[FamilyTeam]

Is there a Physical Sweeper that's Steel type and it is NOT Scizor or Lucario? Someone FINALLY posted on my thread and said that having Lucario and Scizor on a team is kind of a waste, and he recommended Staraptor. I used Staraptor in 3 battles, I lost ALL of them and all of them I was missing Scizor. He also told me that I had to use Mega Evolution on Lucario. Since people telling me that I have to use Mega Evolution in one of my Pokemon was REALLY start to get on my bloody nerves I decided to use it, even against my will.

Also, Charizard is going to be OU in this Generation?! Are you... Are you...
Are you serious?
I  don't know if everyone I battled that had a Mega Charizard didn't know how to use OR Mega Charizard really only serves as a revenge overkiller. If Stealth Rocks is up, they're just Hydreigon food to me, hell, they must be soup to anything that outspeeds them when Smogon Stones is up. If you use Mega Charizard, any version, what's so good about it?

[Yookie]

Metagross can be a sweeper if you get a turn to set up Agility/Rock Polish but in XY it lacks its elemental coverage it had from the move tutors in previous generations. But it is still useable.
Then there's Durant but it is basically Scizor with minor differences imho. If you're into that you can also play a Weak-Armor Skarmory.

Edit: I forgot Excadrill. Don't know much about that one but it can deal lots of damage and was iirc uber with sandstorm in gen5

Mega-Charizard Y is among the ones with the highest special attack and decently fast.
X has tough claws going for it. But imho its stats are kinda weird for that with it still having such a high special attack which costs it other stats.

And if you don't want to use Mega Evolution then don't. It's not like mons that can do that are incapable of holding other items.

[FamilyTeam]

I think I'm going to give Staraptor another Chanseychance, but this time I'll actually going to use the setup Smogon recomends with the Choice Band.
I just looked up Mega Charizard Y (which seems to be the common) and it has 100 BASE SPEED. Hwo was I Outspeeding it with a Hydreigon? Do people invest in SPATK instead of Speed?

EDIT: Remember when I said that Mega Charizard only serves as a Revenge Overkiller? Apparently, it serves as a anti water-type lead as well. But really, this is also an example of how good it is as well. Just observe that Stealth Rocks damage! NOT having a Rapid Spinner in your party when you have a Pokemon with 4x Weakness to Sneaky Peeble seems kind of, well, "not intelligent", for lack of better words.

[Yookie]

NOT having a Rapid Spinner in your party when you have a Pokemon with 4x Weakness to Sneaky Peeble seems kind of, well, "not intelligent", for lack of better words.

Isn't that a given as long as you don't use the mon in question as a suicide lead?

Also: I've had it with 2 out of 3 people in random wifi using legedary ubers and why am I always fully paralyzed when I predict the switch out to avoid my Earthquake and want to use something that would've killed the thing that got switched in?

[FamilyTeam]

Also: I've had it with 2 out of 3 people in random wifi using legedary ubers and why am I always fully paralyzed when I predict the switch out to avoid my Earthquake and want to use something that would've killed the thing that got switched in?

They're 10 year olds who think they're the second coming of Red Ketchum Oak 3000 because they can kill a LVL 2 Caterpie with Dialga's Roar Of Time.

[Bio]

Is there a Physical Sweeper that's Steel type and it is NOT Scizor or Lucario?

Genesect, Jirachi, i.e. event legendaries. Bisharp is the other contender. I wouldn't recommend Cobalion as it has more of a defensive role in that in needs a SD to do serious damage but also has handy resistances and Toxic immunity.

Excadrill and Durant are both extremely frail (with Durant at least being able to at least take a couple of physical hits). Excadrill has a major speed problem which was overcome with Sand Rush in previous generations while Durant has an almost necessity to set up a Hone Claws or risk missing (which is why choice sets aren't that great).

Staraptor is a good Pokemon which you should not consider outside of choice, it has no use outside of hitting extremely hard at an okay speed tier with Brave Bird though it is kind of really outclassed by Talonflame in that regard due to the utility. Reckless Brave Bird still will heavily maim things which don't resist though.

The difference between outspeeding M-Charizard with Hydreigon might come down to Modest vs. Timid. M-Charizard X also hits extremely hard with a DD up and Fire is a really good type for OU with rampant Steels. M-Charizard Y is king of doubles though, for obvious reasons. Offensive presence with sun is too good.

Rapid Spin has also been phased out by Defog since sometimes having hazards on the opponent's side is not required, plus it gives a lot more options for your team meaning you don't need to run a Starmie (which will probably drop to UU soon).

Mega evolutions are just too good to pass up in most cases, 100 extra stat points give you more bulk, damage, speed without the cost of HP or locking you into a move. In cases like Lucario, using the megastone outclasses normal Lucario in all sets except scarf sets, unless you truly care for those extra 5% with Crunch.

Also: I've had it with 2 out of 3 people in random wifi using legedary ubers and why am I always fully paralyzed when I predict the switch out to avoid my Earthquake and want to use something that would've killed the thing that got switched in?

Because its Funspot and the trick is to not get paralyzed in the first place and run Lum Berry.

e: Chatter is 100% confusion this time around so Chatot is now the best.

[FamilyTeam]

Okay guys, Gliscor can't learn Stealth Rocks anymore! In fact, I don't think ANYONE this Generation that isn't named either Tyrunt or Tyranitar can learn Stealth Rocks! Scizor also can't learn SuperPower! Turns out I won't be transferring just Staraptor from the previous Gens.
After Pokebank comes out, I'll give both of them to you guys. But what the hell do I use on our tournament in the meantime? Staraptor is still in Platinum, Brick Break isn't that bad on Scizor, but definitely not as good as SuperPower, AND Stealth Rocks is extremely necessary!

Oh wait, I remember now, Official Tournaments won't allow previous Gen Pokemon because they are scared of "Pokesav" and shit. Guess my team is now useless just because of that.

[Yookie]

Dwebble learns Stealth Rock for passing it to Bug/Mineral mons. Nevermind that is a Tutor Move on Gliscor.

I actually didn't play Gen 4 and 5 at all so I'm "not affected" by the lack of Pokebank or the apparent ban of transferred mons but I guess it's really frustrating for you people to wait this long and then still having to do all that breeding again just to redo what you already had.

And from what I can see there is a huge amount of moves from tutors in Blackwhite1/2, wow.
Let us just hope that with the (most likely) coming XY2/Z there will be replacements for those.