Author Topic: Bravely Default: Come for the dumb name, stay for the FFV job system (Read 50996 times)

theshirn · « **on:** January 10, 2014, 04:58:55 AM »

With the game out in Europe and the demo up on the eShop, I figure we could use a thread here.

I've barely scratched the surface of the demo, but a few thoughts:

- oh god the hats, THE HATS, it's like 4 heroes of light without being terrible, all my class decisions are solely based on hats
- red mage/ninja is a surprisingly amazing combo, evade and get paid for it
- oh my god the music
- oh my god THE MUSIC

S'yeah. Probably picking this up come February 7th!

Shizumarashi Mayuzumi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2014, 05:06:00 AM »

Quote from: theshim on January 10, 2014, 04:58:55 AM

- red mage/ninja is a surprisingly amazing combo, evade and get paid for it

Also red mage costumes best costumes. Except maybe for the performer costumes.

theshirn · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2014, 05:10:32 AM »

Quote from: Arashi Kurobambi on January 10, 2014, 05:06:00 AM

Also red mage costumes best costumes. Except maybe for the performer costumes.

it is a god damn travesty that the girls don't get shades

Bio · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2014, 06:11:18 AM »

Edea dress-up the game.

Garlyle · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2014, 11:30:39 AM »

I keep forgetting this is out ~~but you said FFV and that's the magic words~~

Raikaria · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2014, 12:06:29 PM »

I saw this in Game and was tempted to buy it because I'd heard it's name bantered around here.

Then I realized it had not been linked with 'Good' or 'Bad' or 'Average' yet; and it was still full price; so I decided to wait for more info/less monehs spent on it.

BT · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2014, 01:34:59 PM »

Quote from: Raikaria on January 10, 2014, 12:06:29 PM

I saw this in Game and was tempted to buy it because I'd heard it's name bantered around here.

Then I realized it had not been linked with 'Good' or 'Bad' or 'Average' yet; and it was still full price; so I decided to wait for more info/less monehs spent on it.

It's widely regarded as good if you're a FF sort of guy.

triangles · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2014, 02:02:53 PM »

Quote from: theshim on January 10, 2014, 05:10:32 AM

it is a god damn travesty that the girls don't get shades

But that would take away from the majesty that is Performer Ringabel so I'll accept that.
This is the first time in basically forever I am getting a game on release and the special edition to boot because DAT SOUNDTRACK AHHHH :*

Bio · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2014, 02:06:28 PM »

Quote from: Raikaria on January 10, 2014, 12:06:29 PM

Then I realized it had not been linked with 'Good' or 'Bad' or 'Average' yet; and it was still full price; so I decided to wait for more info/less monehs spent on it.

Chapters 5+ are poorly executed. The rest is pretty good, though the game is ridiculously easy to cheese your way through.

Molten · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2014, 02:11:04 PM »

Yessssss, a Bravely Default thread!!! I have played this game for idunno how long (60h+) and I'm still not done with it. It's just so awesome and fun and all of the side things and other stuff.

Quote from: more than one triangle on January 10, 2014, 02:02:53 PM

But that would take away from the majesty that is Performer Ringabel so I'll accept that.
This is the first time in basically forever I am getting a game on release and the special edition to boot because DAT SOUNDTRACK AHHHH :*

The collectors/special/deluxe edition is imo totally worth it. The soundtrack is absolutely amazing and the artbook is pretty cool. (Also, living in Europe I also got the figurine) If you're really hyped for the game, then everything is completely worth it.

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2014, 06:00:37 AM »

Quote from: Bio on January 10, 2014, 02:06:28 PM

Chapters 5+ are poorly executed. The rest is pretty good, though the game is ridiculously easy to cheese your way through.

How many chapters are there? I'd think that the final bosses and whatnot would at least be impressive...

Regardless: I preordered the Special Edition, it's worth paying for if you can spare the cash :3c

Bio · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2014, 06:06:21 AM »

There are technically 8 chapters for the True End, but you can get another ending and only play through a minimum of 6.

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2014, 06:12:12 AM »

Quote from: Bio on January 11, 2014, 06:06:21 AM

There are technically 8 chapters for the True End, but you can get another ending and only play through a minimum of 6.

Oh snap, this game has *endings*?!

That's new (well, not quite, FF13-2 did it first)

yuyukos · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2014, 06:51:20 AM »

Played the demo, enjoyed it greatly, pre-ordered the special edition. Jealous of outside regions that get the figure with it.
We'll need friends codes for slave labor to rebuild the town! :V

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2014, 06:58:29 AM »

Quote from: yuyukos on January 11, 2014, 06:51:20 AM

Played the demo, enjoyed it greatly, pre-ordered the special edition. Jealous of outside regions that get the figure with it.
We'll need friends codes for slave labor to rebuild the town! :V

I estimate the Social Gaming thread will be very busy once the game comes out.

Garlyle · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:26:24 PM »

hahahaha ha
ha

damnit where the hell did the last three hours go? ~~Two-handed is broken~~

Suikama · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:32:37 PM »

>download demo
>open game
>words words words fuck that shit i just wanna fight something
>leave town
>enter southern dungeon
>encounter dragon
>get murdered

yay

triangles · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2014, 07:48:34 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 06:32:37 PM

>enter southern dungeon

This was your mistake (I totally did the same thing too)
The demo's not really clear about this or maybe it is, it's kinda WORDS-WORDS-WORDS at first and I completely glossed over WHAT 2 DO as well, but you pretty much have to go in order of the quests they give you or you will be absolutely slaughtered, the south dungeon being the final of the three didn't help you much either :ohdear:
Gotta collect beast livers and whatever for a while first and use that quest $$ to buy some upgraded town weapons/armor sooner or later.

Suikama · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2014, 07:52:34 PM »

to be fair even FF1 did this (those damn cockatrices) so i should have seen it coming :derp:

theshirn · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2014, 08:30:56 PM »

or you could turn off encounters, pillage the dungeons, and then do what they want

Jq1790 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2014, 04:27:02 PM »

Quote from: theshim on January 12, 2014, 08:30:56 PM

or you could turn off encounters

Wait, there was an option for that? That seems kinda silly.

(Recently downloaded demo myself, only did like 1 quest so far and I was an idiot and didn't buy armor/weapons first, instead buying magic, so now I've gotta try to get more money saved so I don't take insane amounts of damage. There's also the fact that I've yet to strike my balance for Braving/Defaulting and haven't figured out what classes I wanna start with but that's another story.)

Suikama · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Jq1790 on January 13, 2014, 04:27:02 PM

Wait, there was an option for that? That seems kinda silly.

"ROAWWWRRR-"
"fuck you dragon, i'm turning you off"

triangles · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2014, 04:43:53 PM »

Yeah I didn't realize the encounter button was a thing until I was doing the 3rd dungeon legit and at that point it'd be more of a convenience to get back to town/dungeon peddlers faster than anything else.

As for classes I found that black magic users and ninjas are the most useful, I wound up pretty much soloing the final boss of the demo with my ninja by accident, and I didn't even optimize her with the Red Magic BP hax skill. I suspect this won't be quite as good in the real game, between having bosses that will actually do magic damage and I know there's no way this is the order you get the classes in.

Bio · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2014, 05:41:57 PM »

Oh the subtitle of the game actually means something. It's not that big considering I've beaten the non true ending and am now just grinding for 99s, but it's cool nonetheless.

Garlyle · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2014, 09:31:55 PM »

Looking into it, the full game both A. hands you classes in a different order, and B. also has a different order for what abilities each class learns (eg Dungeon Master is the level 2 Freelancer skill in the demo, but level 4 in the full game).

The boss at the end of the demo is kind of a jerk on Hard. Its damage is frankly just way too high; without Default, Mow Down is about 250 damage to everyone and Bully is 700 to one target. Which is to say there's no way I can presently keep up with it on healing and I don't particularly feel like grinding for a demo so I guess I'm waiting for the full game now whoops.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2014, 04:43:32 AM »

Not only can you disable encounters(which supposedly has an ingame challenge for doing the whole game without them), you can disable the experience, money, and JP gains for battles.

Though I doubt that you're going to be able to do much of those in combination.

triangles · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2014, 04:25:20 PM »

It'll make life easier for all the level 1/no jobs/etc challenges people do.
Hey I wonder if you can do a FF5 Four Job Fiesta sort of thing with this game? I guess it depends on when exactly and how the jobs are dished out but HMMMM.

Bio · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2014, 04:32:08 PM »

You don't get Conjurer until Chapter 6. It's the last job you get. I don't see how you would incorporate support abilities in.
Also man these sub quests are kind of hard late in the game

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #28 on:** January 16, 2014, 10:45:18 PM »

Quote from: more than one triangle on January 14, 2014, 04:25:20 PM

Hey I wonder if you can do a FF5 Four Job Fiesta sort of thing with this game? I guess it depends on when exactly and how the jobs are dished out but HMMMM.

I actually wondered about this myself. I loved the original FJF earlier this year, and I'd be more than willing to play a challenge run like that again.

Bio · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2014, 02:51:31 PM »

http://imgur.com/Op6avBR
Well that was fun, I guess I'll just buy all those weapons I skipped over now and call it a 100%.
60 hours game time, many hours just leaving it sleeping.

For context this is the "Summon friend" system where you can summon someone from your friend list/passerby/random net invite and get them to use one move that they 'sent' over. The damage cap for this game is 9999 but through using Bravely Second you can get 999999 through incredible amounts of buffing/debuffing/weaknesses.

Spoiler: