My apologies. I feel I am addressing the core elements of points you may be trying to make, namely the dismissal of nebradisk as an option as he is an inferior choice to other critters.
You were not, unfortunately. You were simply picking a single part of my argument and calling me inexperienced actually. It was rather frustrating, and on 40+ hours of little to no sleep and with some stress I may have snapped a bit hard and I apologize.
You very much did not discuss why he still has a spot, which is why I haven't really gone into why without support he's far too weak to hold up a proper stall, and how wasting slots in burst to make support dramatically lowers damage which is very inefficient and will make the team fall- which is why he's not a proper option at all in burst, frankly. I also find the idea of getting skills back up somewhat mixed though my minds a bit too fuzzy to properly express why for king slime teams I think it might not be strong enough (except perhaps for draggie knight, but ADK teams....ADK teams.) it's certainly nowhere near as strong for non-slime teams.
In short, I believe he's not a proper option so much as a trap.
'Emergency Odin' can be taken three ways, I suppose. The first would be as a ghetto odin substitute, good for sleeping through normal dungeons. The second would be as I described him above. The third would be what I believe was your intended use, as an emergency option for unplanned situations, which we've addressed. I meant the first two and you meant the third, which is where our disagreement lies.
The first is okay I guess? I'd straight up just get an actual Odin friend however, since most odin players seem very generous and Odin is overwhelmingly stronger than Nebradisk as a leader. At that, the ad-hoc Ama you can farm (Siren) is incredibly strong still and farmable on a much easier basis! There is nothing too wrong, and while his stats are subpar he should handle most normal dungeons alright.
The second I believe is for getting skills up- Again, my minds a bit fuzzy for this one but I believe it's too weak in non-slime teams and mixed for slime teams, especially due to him needing support really. Not really a good use for him.
The third was how I interpreted it and we both agree he can't possible work for it.
Angelit converts random orbs to hearts when it attacks, every turn, unless it's below 20% HP (at which point it murders you), meaning Siren is not necessary to bring along. Healing in this situation becomes trivial, which is one of the reasons why a nebradisk works well here.
This may legitimately be the one niche use for nebradisk then.
Just uh, word of warning- If Angelit drops below 50% (He's going to drop below 50% because you're going to do AOE burst damage of atleast 1.7 mil to destroy devilit with a healer team which will leave him at 25%) so you need to bait that out since it's aimed directly at leaders before you swap.
And uhm, Even then to kill Devilit that leaves about 5% leeway before angelit goes straight up fuck your shit so if you accidentally do too MUCH damage... uhm. May have issue.
So yeah playing with fire.
Also in addition to this I may note that an ultra gravity does 30% and would kill both of them straight up.
So using nebradisk is actually fairly dangerous and completely unnecessary assuming you can do 1.7 mil burst with a healer team -1 slot.
So uh while he works, he's actually the run around and unnecessary option for the job.
I apologize if I have come across as rude; we appear to have had differing interpretations of the actual subject matter being discussed. I hope we can move on without continuing further non-game-related remarks.
I accept your apology and apologize for snapping a bit hard, I'm very often abrasive as I'm somewhat blunt in how I speak- but i really don't mean much vitrol and generally care and enjoy most people in this thread. Except suikama.
Suikama's a jerk.
(i'm joking ilu suikama)
