Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -12F

[Zeforas]

The translation patch is in a fairly rough state, so it's just like that. Nothing to really do about it.

Aww, well, thanks for the awnser. :3

I wish the best for the translation project. :3

[soniccross]

guys ... i really need some help with 15F strengthen boss glowing azure giant ...
he buff all his stats to 100% on first turn -_- (even raisen with hexer cant remove that 100% stats in 2 turn before he kill all my front line)
he kill everymember of my team in 1 hit except komachi ...
do i need to use tenshi to remove that buff first ?
thx

i already defeat Shredding Amnesieri, Aria-Singing Toruastory + all strenghthen boss except 15F 18F and 20F -_-

[Raikaria]

Right, finally got this thing going.

[ShiroiMahotsukai]

Finally beat

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Alice

. Lv 25 and it was a horribly hard fight. Her boss self is worse than her regular self for attacking defence and mind. Unfortunately none of my major sweepers have enough def/mind to take a hit like that, or three if

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some dolls

survive before switching them out again for tanks. That's the problem I had, none of my tanks are also sweepers and they can only tank def or mnd meaning if there's a

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magic doll

I can't kill in time my physical tank dies.

Kasen was a god send in this fight, her multi-target nature spell could two-shot

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magical dolls

and she has a powerful wind nuke as well as guts so can survive. Aya ensured Wriggle could poison her before she was killed and Gods Slash of Karma Wind is indeed Godly, as is Djinn Gust. Defence buffs were less usefull as I still couldn't take a hit with anyone but Komachi stacked with affinity. Also everyone seems weak to fire, everyone! Is there any way I could have made that fight less torturous on myself?

On the other side of the map we have the

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Great Tree

, seriously screw that guy, took forever to navigate around him for the final stone as he kept killing me. On to floor 8!

[jaxter0987]

Finally beat

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Alice

. Lv 25 and it was a horribly hard fight. Her boss self is worse than her regular self for attacking defence and mind. Unfortunately none of my major sweepers have enough def/mind to take a hit like that, or three if

Spoiler:

some dolls

survive before switching them out again for tanks. That's the problem I had, none of my tanks are also sweepers and they can only tank def or mnd meaning if there's a

Spoiler:

magic doll

I can't kill in time my physical tank dies.

Kasen was a god send in this fight, her multi-target nature spell could two-shot

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magical dolls

and she has a powerful wind nuke as well as guts so can survive. Aya ensured Wriggle could poison her before she was killed and Gods Slash of Karma Wind is indeed Godly, as is Djinn Gust. Defence buffs were less usefull as I still couldn't take a hit with anyone but Komachi stacked with affinity. Also everyone seems weak to fire, everyone! Is there any way I could have made that fight less torturous on myself?

On the other side of the map we have the

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Great Tree

, seriously screw that guy, took forever to navigate around him for the final stone as he kept killing me. On to floor 8!

Fighting at the recommended level might have helped...The wiki

[Raikaria]

Stumbleing through.

Beat Floor 1, recruited everyone except Parsee there [At least I think I have. I can't find anymore events]. And now I'm stuck at some Giant Boar thing which is suddenly a 4 level jump. I presume grinding is required, although as I failed to beat it Kasen joined.

I have no clue what I'm doing.

Also despite being the same level, Marisa having some equipment, and both being pure MAG builds, Rumia's Moonlight Ray is actually hitting harder than Marisa's Magic Missiles. Wat. I thought it took a while for Rumia's EXP curve + ratios to kick in and give her good damage in LoT1, but she's got pretty cool damage now already.

Also I am highly tempted to just run through the game with a single party focused around Rumia. Because I'm me. Kogasa+Rumia already seems like a pretty cool combo because Kogasa has the MND debuff which buffs up Moonlight Ray indirectly. Of course I have no clue what I'm doing yet especially since half the game is still Japanese so I don't know who comes when. I just got Cirno.

Also WOW the art is a buttload better in this game.

Edit:
Looking at the characters on the wiki and these 'skills' and 'subclasses' I can see the game is a lot more mechanically complex than before.

I am also incredibly tempted to make a hilarious 'Self-Debuff-Buff' team using Hina and Parsee as cornerstones. Hina debuffs everyone, but in turn buffs herself because of Misfortune Reversal. Meanwhile Parsee powers up due to Ability to Manipulate Jealousy. I guess the slot 1 tank here would be Komachi, because she doesn't really use stats, she just uses HP [And she has 0 Debuff resistance], and the 4th slot could be a rotational slot of nukers and debuffers, including the self-debuffing Utusho.

Or I could use Rumia as a main nuker, bearing in mind her massive debuff resist, and the fact her Dark Side of the Moon is powered up by Parsee's 'Flames of Jealousy' skill. Of course this is probobly far from being the most efficient trash-clearing party, and probobly sucks as soon as it runs into anything immune to Dark.

I always like running debuffs in games where they're good. More than buffs. I don't know why :/

[Sahgren]

One of the nicer things about LoT2 is that there doesn't seem to be any characters that are really "bad". If you feel like trying something, go for it.

[jaxter0987]

Also despite being the same level, Marisa having some equipment, and both being pure MAG builds, Rumia's Moonlight Ray is actually hitting harder than Marisa's Magic Missiles. Wat. I thought it took a while for Rumia's EXP curve + ratios to kick in and give her good damage in LoT1, but she's got pretty cool damage now already.

At least in the case of LoT1, Moonlight Ray has a really high MAG multiplier compared to Magic Missile but factors in more of the enemies' MND making Marisa do more damage against enemies with higher MND. This is kind of the reason why Rumia tends to fall off.

That said, I don't know the damage calculation formula for LoT2 so it could be for other reasons.

[Raikaria]

At least in the case of LoT1, Moonlight Ray has a really high MAG multiplier compared to Magic Missile but factors in more of the enemies' MND making Marisa do more damage against enemies with higher MND. This is kind of the reason why Rumia tends to fall off.

That said, I don't know the damage calculation formula for LoT2 so it could be for other reasons.

No, in LoT 1 it was usually said she 'ramped up'. Probobly because she can completely ignore MND with Dark Side of the Moon. Also Demaration.

One of the nicer things about LoT2 is that there doesn't seem to be any characters that are really "bad". If you feel like trying something, go for it.

Well none of them were really 'bad' in LoT1. Except maybe Kanako and Utusho, but even she had use in the way that she had the only big single-target CLD nuke, and Utusho could work with support.

There were more 'broken' characters in Lot1 than 'bad ones. [Meiling was absurd, Iku was stupid, Nitori's nuke was dumb...]. Which makes me a little worried about Iku when I see she has ANOTHER attack now which lets her Stickleback herself and then go mental.

Also I kinda stumbled into a boss with a Lv 9 icon right next to a relay point so I decided to fight it at average level 7.

I beat Kaguya at average level 7, first try. Now I'm onto Floor 3.

[Axel Ryman]

So trying to go over the character list in the game and see who's required to beat the game. I think on the list is about 20 characters out of the total group. Besides the starting 4, gonna spoil all the other names.

Reimu
Marisa
Rinnosuke
Keine

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Youmu
Minoriko
Cirno?[Might be able to skip the event, I'd need to go back to that part]
Komachi
Hina
Rin
Utsuho
Satori
Iku
Remilia
Sakuya
Kanako
Suwako
Tenshi
Yuyuko
Yukari

Not sure if I'm missing anyone or added someone I shouldn't of.

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Kanako and Suwako

aren't listed as required on the wiki but I think they are since I remember a rock on the 12th floor that required both I believe.

[Pesco]

Possible Essential-Characters-Only team out of the lot? There's a few synergy teams you could pull off and the builds are likely going to be defense oriented.

[Axel Ryman]

Possible Essential-Characters-Only team out of the lot? There's a few synergy teams you could pull off and the builds are likely going to be defense oriented.

More like speedrun routing. Only off-essentials I am thinking/planning to grab was Momiji(Early Physical tank/damage dealer), Nitori(Maintenance can be a really OP skill), Kasen(She's a early game crutch character that can do really well even in the late game),  Aya (Strat should be obvious, and would reduce any grinding I'd need endgame), and maybe Reisen(Lowering Debuff resistance can really help, but I'm going to have to see if it's even worth it).

[jaxter0987]

No, in LoT 1 it was usually said she 'ramped up'. Probobly because she can completely ignore MND with Dark Side of the Moon. Also Demaration.

Uh what?

"Finally, while Dark Side of the Moon is your first completely defense-ignoring spell, it has very low damage output between its low formula and Rumia's low MAG, and while generally useless, can prove highly useful against a select few enemies. "

I really have no idea why anyone would think Rumia ramped up. Her Moonlight Ray gets worse and worse since enemy defenses skyrocket towards the end game. And as the wiki's character description for her aptly put it, Dark Side of the Moon is hardly ever worth using.

[Serela]

LoT1 rumia is pretty bad, until postgame where she -does- ramp up because Demarcation actually becomes good at healing. Moonlight Ray does roughly as much as a nuke should do (a little less, but a negligible amount less) at that point as well, but apart from the Shiki fight where she hits weakness, you really only take her as Backup Reimu.

DSoTM is hard to use ever, apart from tinking off everything's last bit of HP early in the game. It's too weak to adequately damage the nigh-invulnerable enemies even if you really twink Rumia up, although if you used Iku in tandem it'd probably work since Rumia is slow enough for you to get Iku moving first.

LoT2 Rumia is pretty good though, her moveset is much more usable in general situations (DSoTM and Demarcation have better numbers and don't rely on scaling) and a large amount of bosses are susceptible to her Humanoid damage boost. IIRC she's a little more durable vs. magic now as well.

[Cat]

Went to 21F and got a crash thrown in my face.. I forgot saving after beating the final boss too.

;A;

[CrazyManiacz]

Where are all the Stones of Awakening? Are any of them in the Extra areas of the endgame? Trying to get the Stone of Greater Awakening (Heard that you could get it after getting all Stones of Awakening?), but I currently only have 9

I need to learn how to use spoilers, I guess  :V

[Axel Ryman]

I think 1 or 2 of them were added to the new areas in the latest patch.


Since I have an excuse to post, does anyone know which patch version added Hard mode?

[Sungho]

Version 1.140 added Hard Mode. Says the changelog.

[CrazyManiacz]

Hmm, okay, I'll go look for it, thanks. By the way, the Stone of Greater Awakening allows you to give everyone a subclass?

[ShiroiMahotsukai]

Yeah, if you give a subclass it won't be consumed so it can be used infinitely.

On another note, I hate Flower Divers. 8th floor is kicking my ass, I blame Tenshi. Her boss fight only required cannon fodder so I didn't grind to recommended level and was thus under levelled for 7th bosses. Beat them by luck and now regular encounters on 8th floor are able to kill me in two turns without Royal Flare or something.

[Serela]

IIRC Recommended level for the first Tenshi fight is "way overleveled". You're not supposed to grind up to that point.

Touhou Labyrinth just throws killer random battles at you, more or less!

[Thata no Guykoro]

Hello, it's me again! I'm quite a bit further in the game than last time, hahaha.
This time around, I need help fighting

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Yuuka

on 8F. I'm several levels above challenge level, and yet

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I still can't keep up with the healing + damage from Gensokyo's Reflowering.

I have Minoriko tanking and

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Patchy

in the fourth slot, with

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Alice

, Youmu, Nitori (if she ever survives), and

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Remilia

as major damage dealers. Anyone else I should look to?

If it helps, I've recruited everyone except

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Yukari, Flandre, Shikieiki, and Yuuka (obv)

so far.

[CrazyManiacz]

Well, I was very overleveled when I smashed Yuuka; a few levels above the challenge level is too hard, I guess. (for me, anyway.)

As for the characters, maybe you could use Kanako (Power may be too weak though). Also, as Yuuka has no resistance to Shock, you may want to use Rin with the SHK increasing main equip and Extra Attack, along with speed equips. If you really want to, you can go get Flandre and Laevateinn Yuuka (Make sure to find a safe moment for her first!). Mokou can work as well. (?) Anyway, this is my opinion; just try trial and error.

[nyttyn]

The ver 1202 patch link in the OP is broken :<

[Mr. Sacchi]

So I just tried to Cheat Engine my way to victory against the

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Ame-No-Murakumo fight on 12F, after Tenshi

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It

runs away after a couple of turns so I guess they expected someone to do that.

[Ghaleon]

I've waited and waited... can't.. imma just take what I can get now and try touhou laby2 now with an incomplete patch. Not complaining about the length or anything, anything at all is wonderful, I just adore the game and need to play it naooo.

anyway. I was hoping finding the newest english translation patch supported official japanese patch would be described and stuff in the op but doesn't seem to be the case. that's not why I'm posting though, while doing that I noticed

"LoT 1 Patches and other downloads
Ver 2.04 patch
Ver 2.06B patch Dead link. HALP."

I actually have a zip file of the 2.06 patch, but it's the official patch, not the translation patch, is that's what is wanted? I'm not sure? I also have 3.01 patch, and the english version of 3.01 if that's needed.

[qazmlpok]

I've waited and waited... can't.. imma just take what I can get now and try touhou laby2 now with an incomplete patch. Not complaining about the length or anything, anything at all is wonderful, I just adore the game and need to play it naooo.

anyway. I was hoping finding the newest english translation patch supported official japanese patch would be described and stuff in the op but doesn't seem to be the case. that's not why I'm posting though, while doing that I noticed
I actually have a zip file of the 2.06 patch, but it's the official patch, not the translation patch, is that's what is wanted? I'm not sure? I also have 3.01 patch, and the english version of 3.01 if that's needed.

An english patch for 2.06b was never made, so yes, I'm pretty sure they're looking for the official patch.

[Ghaleon]

Ahh, i cant remember, ill try and upload it as soon as im at my pc.

edit: okies here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wqghv7ego3me8qm/thLabyrinth_ver2.06.zip

new edit: playing the game, about to face final boss on floor 3, but I remember asking this during demo days and nobody could answer... is there any way to play this in fullscreen? the default screen is too small, and manually resizing it gives noticeable pixels... qq.

[jaxter0987]

Ahh, i cant remember, ill try and upload it as soon as im at my pc.

edit: okies here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wqghv7ego3me8qm/thLabyrinth_ver2.06.zip

new edit: playing the game, about to face final boss on floor 3, but I remember asking this during demo days and nobody could answer... is there any way to play this in fullscreen? the default screen is too small, and manually resizing it gives noticeable pixels... qq.

If full screen existed, it would basically function the same as if you were manually resizing it. I fail to see what the difference would be other than black bars covering whats left of the screen (Unless your resolution just happens to match the game's).

I didn't notice any quality drops upon manually resizing the window though O.O
Just realized that not everyone has the same resolution I do, as yours might be much larger than mine. I still think being able to manually resize it is good enough as opposed to LoT1's window.

[Ghaleon]

I assure you it most certainly is not. Ive never seen a window game with a fullscreen option get all pixelated to the same extent as this one does when resizing it... Plus i have a widescreen so i literally cannot resize it to fit my screen horizontally.