Author Topic: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Game Over! (Black Rose Thread)  (Read 28285 times)

ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2013, 11:18:41 PM »
I'm probably voting whoever Conq votes at the end of the day.

just throwing that out there.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #121 on: December 17, 2013, 01:04:34 AM »
zzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #122 on: December 17, 2013, 01:23:02 AM »
I am awake! \o/
The problem with SB scanning as vanilla is I don't think there's a vanilla scum. I supose any goon would still be able to charge but again, like, what would he be charging, just the one role? Eehh..
Also literally everyone including the dead guy who can't talk wants to lynch BT. How much time do we have left?


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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #123 on: December 17, 2013, 01:51:21 AM »
Getting Sucked Into A Giant Car Wash And Turning Into A Car Like A Boss Vote Count

Serious Bananas (1): Polaris
BT (2): Prims, Raikaria, Raikaria
Prims (1): Serious Bananas
Shadoweh (1): BT

Not voting (3): Shadoweh, ActionDan, Conqueror

With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch. You have about 22.5 hours remaining.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #124 on: December 17, 2013, 02:00:36 AM »
The problem with SB scanning as vanilla is I don't think there's a vanilla scum. I supose any goon would still be able to charge but again, like, what would he be charging, just the one role? Eehh..
Oh, damn, I forgot BBM didn't gain bonuses from being charged. That's actually a good point.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #125 on: December 17, 2013, 03:00:48 AM »
in terms of ##charging, it's possible this role could be a precedent. it's the only chargeable role in the scumteam with varied killing mechanics.

of course there is absolutely the chance that the roles could be something beyond the capabilities of us mere mortals to comprehend so mentioning this sort of thing might be a lame and i maintain that SB is scummy to me when ignoring stupidly ambiguous role shenanigans >_> <_<

although I guess since BT is pretty much the 3rd scum if SB is scum, if everyone else wants to lynch BT first because of role shenanigans then I'll go for it.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2013, 03:15:10 AM »
Basically the role-logic for town!SB is that there's no reason to have an entire gameplay mechanic and not just an addendum to the theoretical charge-poisoner's role if only one scum gains any buff from charging.

ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #127 on: December 17, 2013, 03:20:47 AM »
not necessarily true.

I was scum in pikman mafia wherein I was a conditional action immune goon.  <--- worded like that.  and there was a "charger" of sorts to make me that.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2013, 03:24:35 AM »
Pretty much doubt Kilga would have a conditional Godfather on top of framer/lawyer + ITP framer + cop being nerfed in the first place.

BT is the best lynch candidate today.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2013, 03:26:24 AM »
Although, I don't really think Polly or Shadoweh are scum either, and Dan is confirmable. Conq is probably not going to write a wall of text defending town!Shadoweh as lawyere'd scum unless he's already attempting to strongarm BT's lynch, which he isn't.

Maybe I should re-read my role PM :o

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2013, 03:27:27 AM »
Or I guess SB could just become immune to my role or something. That seems contrived but "scum should be able to counter every town role in some way" is a real modding philosophy.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2013, 03:32:40 AM »
oh wait, I just realized Dan was talking about the "scum charger" part, not the "conditional action immune while charged" part lol

The role PM itself implies that BBM's charging is factional like the kill, not its own ability.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #132 on: December 17, 2013, 03:33:40 AM »
@Kilga: Is BBM's ##Charge a factional ability?

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #133 on: December 17, 2013, 03:44:00 AM »
I supose there could just be the one. Maybe it does nothing and it's there to make Dan and I tear our hair out looking at it. @_@


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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #134 on: December 17, 2013, 03:45:56 AM »
I just don't get why there would be when Kilga already hosted a set-up with "just the one" and treated it differently.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #135 on: December 17, 2013, 03:47:04 AM »
Conspiracy Theory: Polly is Scum 2 and learns the role PM of roles he catches while charged up. That's why he didn't claim that part of the ability until D3.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #136 on: December 17, 2013, 03:50:22 AM »
or no that wouldn't make sense cause like

BBM blocks me
BT probably poisons Serela

the third scum would have to kill Raikaria. so they wouldn't be able to charge that night

WHATEVER I'm going full shadoweh ok

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #137 on: December 17, 2013, 03:51:15 AM »
@Kilga: Is BBM's ##Charge a factional ability?

In what sense?
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #138 on: December 17, 2013, 03:53:13 AM »
The same way ##Kill is presumably a factional ability - eg, all members of the scum team are capable of using that exact same ability.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #139 on: December 17, 2013, 03:54:54 AM »
Ah, okay. I can't answer that.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #140 on: December 17, 2013, 04:58:26 AM »
Maybe I should re-read my role PM :o
omgggg cheeky scum lynch it with fire.

but for real, I'm mostly waiting for SB to make a real post besides Prims and BBM were bussing; he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

BT still hasn't given serious reads on not!Shadoweh, plus I think his pattern of posting here fits better with him being scum (in contrast, see Mirai Nikki endgame when he was up for lynch and he spamposted so much Bard and Serela accused me of lurking >_>) so I think I'm going to be fine with this lynch.

I don't think rolespec about whether a hypothetical charge ability would be used for one scum or two scum is useful because if BT is scum it'll become obvious with his flip. If BT flips as scum without a charger ability, SB is definitely clear imo, unless we have some weird rolecop godmother, so the last scum would be Prims or Polly. I'd lean Prims in that situation, it's not like he could have claimed non!vanilla result on SB without getting himself into a 1v1, and BT's (lol) point of Polly's role fitting with BBM's role does kinda make sense. If BT flips as scum with a charger ability then the rolespec was useless anyway. I dunno, you rolespeccers can figure it out.

Anyway, I'm thinking BT scum right now and then one of SB/Prims, depending on roles, further posts, etc. Prims has the benefit of ACTUALLY POSTING stuff, plus if he were scum he'd pretty much have had to play for the long term starting on D3, which isn't far fetched given the way the game is going but I dunno. SB's presence is just kinda lacking. I'd be amused if SB were scum over Prims though since Prims was my strongest scumread while reading along.


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Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #141 on: December 17, 2013, 05:02:59 AM »
Or I guess SB could just become immune to my role or something. That seems contrived but "scum should be able to counter every town role in some way" is a real modding philosophy.
See: BBM's role.

Also, just checking, but Prims, did you ask what kind of roles would return a Vanilla result?


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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #142 on: December 17, 2013, 05:06:12 AM »
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Polly is Scum 2 and learns the role PM of roles he catches
Scum already have a limited shot rolecop via BBM. If you think they have multiple rolecops go nuts.

IMO either Polaris is town and his role is as claimed or if he's scum, he's fakeclaiming and his role is something else.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #143 on: December 17, 2013, 05:07:00 AM »
Actually, where did Polly ever claim he got role pms? I thought he only checked whether abilities were used?


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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #144 on: December 17, 2013, 05:14:35 AM »
For the record, SB contacted me a few hours ago in private to prod dodge.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #145 on: December 17, 2013, 05:42:41 AM »
omgggg cheeky scum lynch it with fire.
fun fact, after Angel Beats I made a vow to ONLY EVER USE REFUGE IN AUDACITY AS TOWN to spite Pesco, so if anything im confirmed town on meta. :)

no, Polly claimed that he learns the exact syntax of the role used.

are we gonna hammer bt yet

ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #146 on: December 17, 2013, 06:01:46 AM »
if I voted BT now.

it would be soley a POE vote because I haven't read a thing he's posted.

and I'd feel shitty.

Don't lynch me.

Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #147 on: December 17, 2013, 06:02:50 AM »
I just want SB to post because I likes to be thoroughs with my mafiers and I likes to read the posts.

Also,

Also, just checking, but Prims, did you ask what kind of roles would return a Vanilla result?


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #148 on: December 17, 2013, 06:04:54 AM »
my mind and body are in agony from this school project (mild exaggeration) so apologies for not caring about the game so much '^'

like I said, I'm not a rolecop, I can just check to see how many times a ##Command was used on one night. Kilga said that if I get a result, I'll also know what the name of the actual command should be, e.g. if I checked for a ##Cop I probably would've been informed of an ##Investigate action used (that Rou owned). Unfortunately I really suck at using this role so I've been pretty much useless (although it's possible Kilga intended it to be fairly useless to begin with)

should I move my vote to BT or what

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 4 (Black Rose Thread)
« Reply #149 on: December 17, 2013, 06:24:30 AM »
vanilla / goon