Author Topic: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 3 (Student Council Thread)  (Read 51086 times)

FinnKaenbyou

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #840 on: December 13, 2013, 08:20:42 PM »
can someone please explain to me what's going on with the titles of Kilga's vote counts

are these all things that happen in Utena? Because if so it sounds like a...very special show.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #841 on: December 13, 2013, 08:30:17 PM »
nevermind on trying to find things to push about SB >_> I'll reread BT next instead

Sorry Rou but I've never heard of Utena until this game!
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #842 on: December 13, 2013, 08:37:17 PM »
Okay nevermind maybe everyone should just go vote Polly because I said so >_>
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #843 on: December 13, 2013, 08:42:49 PM »
I reread Polaris' d3 using the post isolation function thing in user profiles. I don't know what specifically to point out but overall it gave me a feeling of "I really think we should lynch this slot" :C

Does anyone think Polly is -town-? If you do, why? It's because of Polly's role, isn't it? You know, the really easily fakable one that's not really given any kind of result yet and was basically wasted N2? Because I don't see anything in Polly's play that would make me think Polly is town, so I'm not sure why anyone would actually think Polaris is town. It'd be so cool to lynch him.
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #844 on: December 13, 2013, 08:43:10 PM »
I'm afraid I'm going to die and Polly getting lynched isn't going to get seriously pushed by anyone anymore.
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #845 on: December 13, 2013, 08:50:49 PM »
HM

In terms of lynches I can go along with at this juncture I would say Polaris and Dan are the only people I could feel comfortable switching to? But I suspect the dan wagon isn't happening, so it's BBM or Polly for me.

But if we're going to not vote BBM we have to give him somebody to shoot. How do we choose that? And how can we even be sure he's gone ahead with it if no-one else dies N3?

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #846 on: December 13, 2013, 08:54:57 PM »
If no one dies then lynch him like everyone wants to. I mean, if no one dies, I'd probably lynch him too. >_>
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #847 on: December 13, 2013, 08:56:34 PM »
Shit fuck dammit now you have me anxious why am I considering this

I don't like Polly's claim it seems stupid he's been hella scummy and the role doesn't do anything to help town but would Kilga make the protagonist of the goddamn series a fake claim? Am I overthinking this?

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #848 on: December 13, 2013, 08:57:18 PM »
...you're really using "but they're the protagonist" as a reason to think someone is or isn't scum? That's pretty silly. :3
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #849 on: December 13, 2013, 08:59:16 PM »
this was a terrible choice of music to listen to i am far too excited

fuck it, i'm doing it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Polaris


scummy play. lousy role. replaced a scummy player. CAN WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

BBM SHOOT uhhhhhh...SB? Dan? idfk

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #850 on: December 13, 2013, 09:01:43 PM »
Yeeeeessssss.

I hope BBM is actually around to change his vote off that useless and terrible Prims one. >_> That'd put us at halfway to the Polly lynch. And yes, obviously I have to unvote Polly, but I'll worry about that more when there's more votes on him.
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #851 on: December 13, 2013, 09:19:28 PM »
We don't have 6 votes for this.

I mean don't get me wrong, after thinking about this rationally for a bit BBM's role would be a ONLY ON CONFIRMED SCUM vig shot which isn't impossible but it still sounds really ridiculous to put a role like this where it could ruin the game based on a player's whims. nth rule of setup crafting is don't assume the player will act the way you expect. It would be a very very bad hosting decision to overlook that.

Even if there's an agreement to autolynch the double hated dude after a misuse, it's a clear in exchange for a lynch and a nk. (I think? I'm not messing this up?) If you DON'T lynch it you play against your wincon because LYLO comes at a blink of an eye.

The argument isn't if it's safe or not to let a role like this live, in fact it probably is, the argument is that this role probably doesn't exist.

Tbh if BBM is scum it wouldn't surprise me if Polly was still scum considering his reaction to the claim. Says he needs a new vote, never ends up rethinking his vote, sticks his vote on BBM anyway because ??? (Probably because the wagon didn't end up dissolving.)

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #852 on: December 13, 2013, 09:22:36 PM »
I mean don't get me wrong, after thinking about this rationally for a bit BBM's role would be a ONLY ON CONFIRMED SCUM vig shot which isn't impossible but it still sounds really ridiculous to put a role like this where it could ruin the game based on a player's whims. nth rule of setup crafting is don't assume the player will act the way you expect. It would be a very very bad hosting decision to overlook that.
Well we've already had to deal with CAPTAIN PLANET going horribly wrong, so.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #853 on: December 13, 2013, 09:27:50 PM »
...fair point. But. Well. I'm optimistic? And you'd still need 6 votes for this. Just thought I'd say that again. If I (and BBM um) join it would be 4. That's not enough.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #854 on: December 13, 2013, 09:33:47 PM »
There's still about 90 minutes to deadline. We can afford to wait a little and see if people show up. I'll be around for as long as necessary so if the Polly lynch doesn't go through then I can fall back on BBM.

Who else here will be able to hang around until the end of the day? I want to know how many votes we have to work with.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #855 on: December 13, 2013, 09:38:23 PM »
I'm taking a shower in a bit but would otherwise be here.

That's not the point though. Even if everyone was active and talking right now I doubt we'd have a majority on Polly.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #856 on: December 13, 2013, 09:41:07 PM »
I think it's at least worth trying to wait. I'm not saying everyone will magically appear but I figure enough people would know the importance of deadline to come on at a time like this. And frankly I find your efforts to shut down the Polly wagon a little unnerving - if BBM does end up flipping town I know exactly where my suspicions are gonna lie.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #857 on: December 13, 2013, 09:43:12 PM »
Yeah, it's not like attempting a Polly lynch will endanger BBM's lynch that we'll probably have to fall back on in the end- even if it's unlikely, there's no reason not to TRY, unless you actually think Polly is town or something
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #858 on: December 13, 2013, 09:44:09 PM »
I'm just thinking rationally here. If anything I support the wagon. That should have been clear.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #859 on: December 13, 2013, 09:45:10 PM »
:D Well here's to hoping for more support showing up~
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #860 on: December 13, 2013, 09:49:54 PM »
what i don't get is how 6 members are apparently reading this and yet only three people are apparently present

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #861 on: December 13, 2013, 09:50:47 PM »
SB I SEE YOU IN THE MEMBERS LIST SAY SOMETHING

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #862 on: December 13, 2013, 09:52:20 PM »
HELLO

tbh I don't get why a BBM lynch is dying out, if he's town and misfires tonight doesn't that make it gg? I think lynching him today is safer in that case.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #863 on: December 13, 2013, 09:55:18 PM »
It's only gg if he misfires after a mislynch.

Shadoweh (2): Serious Bananas, BT
Polaris (2): Serela, Roukan
BigBangMeteor (3): Polaris, Shadoweh, Prims
Prims (1): BigBangMeteor

Not voting (2): ActionDan, Conqueror

right

##Unvote
##Vote Polaris


I'll be around.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #864 on: December 13, 2013, 09:56:15 PM »
SB, that assumes he's town and also gets the vig wrong, and that Polly is also town. It's GG regardless if that occurs >_> Unless you guys decide SB or Shadoweh is more lynchworthy then Polly after a BBM townlynch I guess?

3/6 for Polly lynch!
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #865 on: December 13, 2013, 10:05:02 PM »
tbh I don't get why a BBM lynch is dying out, if he's town and misfires tonight doesn't that make it gg? I think lynching him today is safer in that case.
For Serela to be town and then for BBM to also misfire would take a mistake of horrendous proportions. He'd be left with 8 other players, three of whom are confirmed and three of whom are confirmed town already. Basically his options would be:

-Dan
-BT
-SB
-Prims
-Shadoweh

Even guessing at random his odds of hitting scum there are 60%. And if scum roleblocks him that means they aren't roleblocking Serela, which means I'll hopefully make it through to D4 with a new result.

On that note, if we do get the polly lynch - BBM, DO NOT SHOOT PRIMS. If I survive tonight I'll get my result on him at the start of D4.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #866 on: December 13, 2013, 10:12:54 PM »
SB, what is your opinion on Polly's slot?
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #867 on: December 13, 2013, 10:19:53 PM »
idk, I think his slot is kind of scummy but I find all of BBM/Prims/Dan to be worse than he is.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #868 on: December 13, 2013, 10:26:29 PM »
I'm switching back in five.

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #869 on: December 13, 2013, 10:27:08 PM »
I reread your Prims case and disagree with the parts that aren't about "lazy play" but I guess there's not much I can do about simply disagreeing

and with Dan well... I guess it comes down to the same thing again >_> (although I wouldn't horribly mind Dan dying tbh, even if I do kinda think he's town)

oof. About an hour left in the day, still.
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