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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #360 on: November 18, 2013, 05:16:41 PM »
none of the new ult evos have different actives

so its probably safe to say she'll get a better leader ability and become the strongest leader in the game gungho pls my dreamssssss ;-;

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #361 on: November 18, 2013, 05:24:58 PM »
I doubt they'll change her leader ability.  They're basically the baseline abilities that the rest of the game is now balanced around.

I suspect horus will be getting attacker as a sub and light as an element, isis will likely be getting balance and green

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« Reply #362 on: November 18, 2013, 05:32:30 PM »
imo there's two ways to improve her leader ability to simply bring her inline with the other Egyptian gods (namely Bastet)

Either 1. adding x3.5 attack when RGB matched, making her similar to the tricolor Chinese gods (not that much a of stretch considering Icecream Bastet has something like this)
or 2. adding x3.5 attack when 4 att matched and x4 when 5 att matched, making her even with Bastet
or 3. she only gets stats and i am severely disappointed ;-;

also if Horus gets a leader change, then i'm guessing it will be on the lower end, ie. something like 2.5x attack when 3 att matched or something


in other news, i just realized there are enough different bastets that you can have an all bastet team:

Ult Bastet, Evolved Bastet, Normal Bastet, Icecream Bastet, and Evolved Icecream Bastet

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« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 05:37:30 PM by Suikama »

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #363 on: November 18, 2013, 05:52:54 PM »
imo there's two ways to improve her leader ability to simply bring her inline with the other Egyptian gods (namely Bastet)

Either 1. adding x3.5 attack when RGB matched, making her similar to the tricolor Chinese gods (not that much a of stretch considering Icecream Bastet has something like this)
or 2. adding x3.5 attack when 4 att matched and x4 when 5 att matched, making her even with Bastet
or 3. she only gets stats and i am severely disappointed ;-;

also if Horus gets a leader change, then i'm guessing it will be on the lower end, ie. something like 2.5x attack when 3 att matched or something

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #364 on: November 18, 2013, 05:55:31 PM »
man whats wrong with theorycrafting its just for fun i mean :/

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« Reply #365 on: November 18, 2013, 05:57:08 PM »
man whats wrong with theorycrafting its just for fun i mean :/

it's just really seeming like you are getting way too hyped for something that is destined to be 'fucking nothing: the ulti'

and it really really seems like you need to stop and take a step back before you over hype yourself way too much

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« Reply #366 on: November 18, 2013, 05:59:04 PM »
im just having fun with it

whenever i spam omg, pls, emoticons, or whatever its cause im just joking around, its not like im really gonna cry if Isis turns out to suck or something

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« Reply #367 on: November 18, 2013, 06:07:29 PM »
eh

the leader skills just really really seem like a bit much because they're like

teenage fanfiction skills

and i'm just imagining a suikama sitting there with heart eyes going 'MY WAIFU'

(seriously those are terribly destabilizing as suddenly isis can theoretically do as much damage as other egyptian gods in one and the other she stops being an egyptian god which is entirely her thing)

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« Reply #368 on: November 18, 2013, 06:19:00 PM »
yes because irl im a 14 year old kawaii girl~

It still doesn't bring her over x4 though like Bastet, but I guess another possibility would simply be 3.5x when 4 att because then she neither messes with the Chinese girls, nor does her damage surpass any other Egyptian god, but on the other hand she still does have the worst active skill. Chinese girls are strong not just because they have 3.5x damage but also because they just destroy descend bosses with their active + an enhance orb skill. Bastet's skill still kinda sucks though especially during bosses :derp:


2 stone cleared Green Stone Steadfast Dragon

It's probably gonna take me 2 stones for each one of these stages because orb matching is hard but oh well
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« Reply #369 on: November 18, 2013, 07:29:39 PM »
Qq imma never be able to do windy woods. Droiddragon is my only dual element green critter.

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« Reply #370 on: November 18, 2013, 07:34:12 PM »
the best way to clear those dungeons is get a bunch of ogres, awaken them (easy) then ult evo them for the active skill. Then have any appropriate orb changer and save the ogre actives for minibosses that have 50000 def and bosses

the main problem though is all the mythlits needed for the ogre ult evos >_>

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« Reply #371 on: November 18, 2013, 08:23:02 PM »
I just took a mono-green and did it that way.

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« Reply #372 on: November 18, 2013, 08:44:43 PM »
I just took a mono-green and did it that way.
I'm nowhere near the conditionals yet(haven't even beaten the first tier of technicals yet), but what did you do about the whole no green orbs thing in between charges of your orb changers of choice, if you didnt have dual element monsters?
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« Reply #373 on: November 18, 2013, 09:05:49 PM »
the monsters dont hit very hard so if you have any HP multiplier leaders it's pretty easy to stall for the orbs

it does take a while though

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« Reply #374 on: November 18, 2013, 09:48:29 PM »
the monsters dont hit very hard so if you have any HP multiplier leaders it's pretty easy to stall for the orbs

it does take a while though

That. I think my team was:

Flowerdragon Gaia Prachys
highlander(max-skilled)
puzzdroid
Asgard
Ancient Dragon Lagavulin
Freyja

Optimally, I would have wanted an Artemis and replaced Asgard with ADK.

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« Reply #375 on: November 18, 2013, 10:46:33 PM »
I dont have any green things other than biweekly dragons, a dryad, green ripper, and pizzdroid.

But ogre time it is i guess. I never realized that regular old armor ogres were the end evolution that ican easily, awaken, then ultimate. 

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« Reply #376 on: November 18, 2013, 11:11:09 PM »
green ripper is great as a leader since most enemies are green and puzzdroid will plow through those 54000 armor dude so you should do fine

just make sure you evolve the ogres to the right color because the two colors they can turn into actually have slightly different actives

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« Reply #377 on: November 19, 2013, 01:31:17 AM »
Yeah picking a lead wasnt making me nervous so much as how ill damage anything, ogres are it though.

Also, rainbow dragons again tomorrow. Somehow i feel trolled since i was just lamenting my missing gold dragons and the game goes "here, have everything BUT gold" 2 days in a row.

Dat new vampire ultimate evo is one badass stat stick, kinda sux how he's blue since my only existing tatstick that i use is earth rend siggy.... Though he just might be the best well rounded devil type... New super hera has a 80%+ hp devil 3.5 lead too.

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« Reply #378 on: November 19, 2013, 06:13:41 AM »
Finally just now saw the new Valk art, first thought is it kinda reminds me of Sophitia from Soul Calibur. :V (it's nice though)

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« Reply #379 on: November 19, 2013, 10:54:59 AM »
I'm really enjoying Batman's 3.5 attack on 80% health, so Hera would be ... an almost as good leader skill on a much much better monster. Assuming we can acquire the mats.

New Valk art? Didn't they just recolor the Princess Valkyrie for her alternate ult?
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« Reply #380 on: November 19, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »
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« Reply #381 on: November 19, 2013, 04:00:54 PM »
I finally got around to ult evo'ing my Artemis. I never woulda thought I'd ever be putting Archangel Raphael and Artemis on the same team, hah.
... I wish I could get an Egyptian god, though.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #382 on: November 19, 2013, 05:48:17 PM »
I finally got around to ult evo'ing my Artemis. I never woulda thought I'd ever be putting Archangel Raphael and Artemis on the same team, hah.
... I wish I could get an Egyptian god, though.

Why Egyptian when you can go Chinese ?

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #383 on: November 19, 2013, 08:32:12 PM »
Why Egyptian when you can go Chinese ?

Pretty much this.

Chinese is just straight up better because all you really need is to eliminate unwanted colors- and Isis is too weak really because she's bottom-rung tier.

They're easier, more efficient, and have great active skills!

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)
« Reply #384 on: November 19, 2013, 08:55:24 PM »
So, assuming that I still want to use Artemis and Raphael for sentimental reasons, Leilan or Kirin (assuming I get a good fire sub) are the gods of choice?
I have an Ancient Dark Dragon Caol-ila, Dark High Ninja Hanzo, Batman D/D, too, but the other two have gotten me through a lot and I'd like to keep using them.

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« Reply #385 on: November 19, 2013, 09:45:01 PM »
So, assuming that I still want to use Artemis and Raphael for sentimental reasons, Leilan or Kirin (assuming I get a good fire sub) are the gods of choice?
I have an Ancient Dark Dragon Caol-ila, Dark High Ninja Hanzo, Batman D/D, too, but the other two have gotten me through a lot and I'd like to keep using them.

You can't go wrong with any Chinese God tbh. They're all good. Sure, people might complain about Seiryuu, but that's only in comparision to the others which are really good. Her only problem is a lack of subs to play with, which I'm sure will be fixed in good time. I feel the same way about ulted Kamui.

If you really wanted to use Artemis, I would shoot for Genbu instead, all the other either need fire orbs, or don't have green as their main color.

I find mono-teams quite underrated tbh. Sure, you're not going to be 0-stoning descened dungeons, but for regular farming, they can still do quite a bit of damage while having a bit of tankiness to avoid getting 1-shot for minor screwups. Then there's the 4/0/4 setup which I find is quite viable.
I like using Blue for this, but you can do the same with Light. Lead with dual Raphaels, get a max-skilled heartmaker or two, hopefully Angelion, but CoC Healer or Siren can work too. Chuck in a gravity(Kirin, Zeus) if you can, but if you don't, you can make due with a Ripper Dragon, preferably an Ancient one. From there, find huge Light stat sticks and from there, you will have a team that will almost never die, though things will take a while.

For Artemis, I would reccomend using her in a 9x Balanced team.
Lead with dual Cu chulains
Artemis(ulted)
King Woodsie
2 mystery spots
They can be any of the following:
ADK(ulted)
Zeus dios
Robin
Fortdragon(ulted)

Those are just ideas, I'm sure I forgot some.

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« Reply #386 on: November 19, 2013, 10:38:14 PM »
Haku pls


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« Reply #387 on: November 19, 2013, 10:43:02 PM »
...I see that the new princess valk seems to come with a new rose warrior recolor as well.

If this means what I think it means fuckkk i'ma need a new valk.

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« Reply #388 on: November 19, 2013, 11:34:07 PM »
I honestly think egyptians have some great leaders even i you have chinese.

I have haku and while she's great, shes just not practical in tricolour dungeons, and dungeons with single colour exceptions are also a source of problems more often than not. Plus bastet is extrmely good for tricolours. But yeah, i wouldnt mind an isis or a horus for the reasons above. Ra cant do anything chinese lack in, and anubus is just lawl.

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« Reply #389 on: November 19, 2013, 11:45:03 PM »
I honestly think egyptians have some great leaders even i you have chinese.

I have haku and while she's great, shes just not practical in tricolour dungeons, and dungeons with single colour exceptions are also a source of problems more often than not. Plus bastet is extrmely good for tricolours. But yeah, i wouldnt mind an isis or a horus for the reasons above. Ra cant do anything chinese lack in, and anubus is just lawl.

That's why I have to say Chinese. Every single on of the Chinese Gods is a flexible leader that's fairly easy to build around and do well. Egyptians, not as much, though it's better with Bastet's ult-evo.

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