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can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« on: August 20, 2013, 04:02:13 PM »
Hi everbody,

I'm really frustating, a few days ago I broke one arrow-key from my notebook, so playing th14 was kinda stupid (also w/ numpad).
Now I bought an USB-keyboard, but the thing is, when I graze (SHIFT), shoot (Y/Z (GermanKeyboard)) I cannot fly to the right anymore with the arrow-right-key.
I can fly in all other directions, and via numpad I can only fly to the left (4) ant to the right (6).

Now, it's really annoying since th itself does not offer me an option for key mapping.
Can someone give me an alternative? (beside playing withthe numpad, it's to weird, since the down key (2) is too far away I need to push it w/ my thumb)
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2013, 07:55:18 PM »
Some keyboards can't input certain combinations of keys at once. It's a hardware thing, so unfortunately your only option is to use a key remapper like AutoHotkey or KeyTweak

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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2013, 08:05:55 PM »
Or buy a tough keyboard that allows many keys at once, though they are somewhat more expensive.

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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2013, 08:31:33 PM »
It's also an issue with Touhou 11. When I played it on my last laptop the inputs for that specific game did not work very well. Things like being stuck moving in a direction or not being able to move while focusing became a huge problem. However, with my new one this is no longer a problem.

If you have a 360 or PS3 controller I recommend using it. All Touhou games support controllers and gamepads.

Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2013, 10:35:34 PM »
If you have a 360 or PS3 controller I recommend using it. All Touhou games support controllers and gamepads.
I do have a normal USB game controller (though my laptop always crashes/shuts-down when I plugged it in), but nah...
I'm not a comtroller-guy, I have barely control with a controller, than a keyboard.

@Key-mapping
I already tried some softwares, but either it didn't let me remap the arrow keys, or it wasn't vista compatible and I messed up, and took me a while to get the standard back.
Well, gonna try HotKeys for now

EDIT
OK, so HotKeys, was too complicated, and it'd have taken too much time to figure it out
But, KeyTweak works perfectly
I know remapped the arrow keys, on the right CTRL, right ALT, "that button which is like a right-click on a file" and the period button
The only stupid thing is, I now can't use the period anymore, (at least not with one key)
And also the rebooting is kinda tedious, though I always just logout, would be cooler if you could just switch you keyboard, just like when I switch from German to English or Japanese
Nevertheless, Touhou should work, if not I can always remap
Thanks
« Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 10:49:43 PM by Tyraxx »
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2013, 01:08:26 AM »
You can also look for all instances of KeyboardDataQueueSize in the Windows registry and change their value from 64 (the default one) to 150, and then restart your computer. If works with most USB keyboards. But on laptop keyboards (like mine), there's no other way than remapping. The Key combination that I had most success with was Tab/Q/W/E for Focus/Shot/Bomb/Whatever, and if necessary, moving the arrows to IJKL or UHJK, if necessary.

Oh and the're KeyScan to help with the keys testing.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2013, 01:10:57 AM by Wriggle »

Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2013, 11:10:53 AM »
though my laptop always crashes/shuts-down when I plugged it in
Does it work fine if you plug the controller before powering on your laptop? It just sounds like if you have short circuit.
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »
Thanks ppl but it already works with the KeyTweak key mapping.
And I'm not using my controller anymore, and I also don't want to try, in case my laptop crashes.
Anyway, I only would be interested if there is a possibilty to change the key mapping w/out reboot/log-out.

PS: gosh, always hitting the period key which is the arrow-up key now.
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2013, 12:26:21 PM »
The point of my question was finding out if you should get rid of your controller (if it's really broken) or leave it and just wait for some other game to use it with.
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 04:46:30 PM »
Anyway, I only would be interested if there is a possibilty to change the key mapping w/out reboot/log-out.

Solution with autohotkey installed that i use and doesn't require reboot/logout:

Contents of attached remapped.ahk
Code: [Select]
j::Left
l::Right
i::Up
k::Down

You can edit the contents with any text editor. Double click the file to have the keys remapped. Close the file from the taskbar or task manager.

Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 10:34:52 PM »
Solution with autohotkey installed that i use and doesn't require reboot/logout:
You can edit the contents with any text editor. Double click the file to have the keys remapped. Close the file from the taskbar or task manager.

Oh my, that's really cool, but I would like to have the remaped key on other keys.
But I don't know how to do that.
I'd like:
right-alt: left
right-windows: down
right-ctrl: right
period-key: up

Since I have a German keyboard I took the name of the keys from KeyTweak, I really'd appreciate if you make a file, just like the othe one but w/ this mapping.
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Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 10:49:01 PM »
You can use this line so that the key remaps only work while the Touhou games windows are active:

#IfWinActive ahk_class BASE

So you put the remaps below it, this way:
Code: [Select]
#IfWinActive ahk_class BASE
{
RAlt::Left
RWin::Down
RCtrl::Right
.::Up
}

You also have to right click the script icon in the Windows tray and click reload everytime you make a change to the file.
Just copy that part in a text file, save it as .ahk and load it with AutoHotKey.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2013, 10:51:02 PM by Mordon »

Re: can't play properly th14, since keyboard doesnot react
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 10:26:12 AM »
You can use this line so that the key remaps only work while the Touhou games windows are active:

Nah, I also need it for other games.
But this is awesome, now I can't toggle between these controls at any time, and w/out reboot.
So quick, so good...

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