Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game

[Edible]

and possibly other teams depending on if he gets subtypes like God/Devil

rofl

Poor, poor light/dark hades if this is the case

[Suikama]

well technically speaking 5% extra damage for 5 extra turns isnt really a good deal but Zeus has better stats and on a burst team you won't get to use your gravities more than once anyways

still i dont think it makes that much of a difference if you use light/dark hades over zeus

unless ult evo zeus gets a humongous stat boost, then welp

[Ghaleon]

So many good ults lately. Makes old ones like vrita's seem pretty lame. I wonder if they'll ver fix/butf/revamp em.
I mean getting dragon might be nice i guess but samurai dragons kinda put him to shame, and they may get ults later!

[Chaore]

apparently mono red works

also I think metatron might work since the bosses are nice enough to heal you to full inbetween rounds

Well shit, I really need Goemon now.

[Ghaleon]

just occured to me... if zeus gets an ultimate, I wonder if hera will eventually too,  I mean I assume she would but I wonder if they are scared of bothering people who maxed out their hades instead since he kinda makes her obsolete.

But then again most other games would just nerf hades instead, which isn't exactly better =P.

[Suikama]

i dont think anyone has been nerfed before in this game have they?

[Ghaleon]

Not as far as i know. But thats my point, i like how they buff stuff instead of nerf stuff.

[Suikama]

it helps that this game is entirely PvE so an overall power creep doesnt really hurt anything

alright free Tamadra tomorrow woo

[hyorinryu]

i dont think anyone has been nerfed before in this game have they?

Didn't they nerf mastering?

[Edible]

2 skillups out of 5 eco tinys isn't bad.  4 more to go!

I think I'm gonna spend today on thursday/pengdras though.

[Suikama]

i dont know if awakening feeding has a higher rate of skill ups or something, but I managed to get 5/9 skill ups including one on echidna

there should only be a 1.6% chance of that happening :derp:

[Ghaleon]

I hate you edible.

Fed 9 marine gobbers to siren. Skillup? No
Feed 2 changers to venus, skillup? No
Feed 3 ghosts and 1 succubus to my lilith, skillup? No
Feed 2 heartbreakers, nope.
Feed 2 light samurai war dragons to my 3rd... Light, the one im sure ill never use now that i have to worry about leveling up 2 valks, which im sure will take a lifetime of light exp nomming... TWO EFFING SKILLUPS OUT OF TWO TO THE DAMNU USELESS WAR DRAGON AGGAFHABGDJSHJ.

[Suikama]

Feed 2 light samurai war dragons to my 3rd... Light, the one im sure ill never use now that i have to worry about leveling up 2 valks, which im sure will take a lifetime of light exp nomming... TWO EFFING SKILLUPS OUT OF TWO TO THE DAMNU USELESS WAR DRAGON AGGAFHABGDJSHJ.

the exact same thing happened to me

maybe awakening skill ups really do have a better rate?


huh, ECO Tiny Alma's stats aren't actually that bad

I guess I should get one just to use as a Change the World sub

also she's monster number 666 :V

[Edible]

Dumpty's stats are also pretty good if you don't have a loki

Unrelated note: Why does king bubblie get 2x awakening skill boost, but king shynee only gets 2x awakening rcv boost ;_;

[Suikama]

Because Goemon needed a buff to counteract the Phoenix troll 'nerf'

speaking of which, time to awaken my king bubblie

...shit i need 2 blue kings and i only have one


oh man i have so many shiny orbs everywhere now *-*


holy shit king bubblie skill up
man it has to be higher or something

[Edible]

God, the number of special dungeons on simultaneously today is absurd.

ECO Collab
Hera-Is Descended
Ancient Wood Dragon
Pengdra Village
Tower of Jewels
Legendary Flame Dragon
Thursday Dungeon
Endless Corridors (:V)

[Suikama]

Also TAMADRA Discovered at the very top :V

[Edible]

Hahaha yeah I forgot about that because it was the first one I did this morning <_<

Not that I know what I'm gonna use mine on yet.  Bastet's the obvious choice but there's no real point until I get one or two more tamadras since nothing uses poison yet

[Suikama]

You definitely want to eventually max out Bastet though because the 0.5 extra move time really helps for getting those x7 combos (for a total of an extra 1 second for two Bastets!) and enhanced green att is good for the potential 40% damage boost, although it does kinda clash with her leader ability

One thing I forgot to consider for +Orbs is that it's totally random while Enhanced att is something you can control. But also you can store the +orbs so:

+Orb Pros:
They appear randomly without effort, basically randomly adds free damage to your attacks
Can stack so you have 100% +orb drops
Each orb adds 6% damage so just matching 2 +orbs beats out the damage of matching 6 orbs with enhanced att
+Orbs stay as +orbs until you match them or change them so you can store them for when you need them

+Orb Cons:
Totally random, you can't really count on them unless you store them properly
Does not work with orb changers at all
Only stacks up to 100% appearance rate. Having a 6th copy of this skill does nothing
Stacking them doesn't really add more damage, just increases orb spawn rate (which technically increases damage overall but not if you take the time to store them)
Can be difficult to build a team around having 100% +orbs without using crappy dragons (but then again you can just store them and unleash a 100% +orb combo when you need it)

Enhanced Att Pros:
Not really random, you can control when to trigger it
Can use orb changers to easily trigger the 10% or even the 20% bonus
Stack endlessly so a team of 6 Satan can have up to 360% extra damage rofl
You can calculate the added burst for taking bosses

Enhanced Att Cons:
Adds 0 damage to normal matching combos
You need to match 6 orbs specifically in a row just for a 10% boost, and 12 orbs in two separate rows for 20%
Only appears on a few monsters (most notably Norse gods, Satan and Dark Metatron)
Lose a lot of damage by matching in rows

Overall it's best if you have at least one of each on your team because then you can trigger both by storing 6 +orbs and matching them in a row for 46% extra damage woowelp nvm +orbs ftw

[Edible]

Going after +orbs makes way more sense so I'm going to awaken valk to 2 first

[Ghaleon]

Umm... There must be something I'm not getting cuz 6 orb enhanced skill sounds completely bogus the way I see it.

Benefits of matching 3 orbs of any colour: +25% damage to everything after the first match
benefits of enhanced thingie: +10% damage to just that 1 colour? NOT yay

Even with that enhanced attack thing, you NEVER want to match 6 orbs in a row intentionally, because it's far more effective to match 2 groups of 3 seperately,  How is this wrong?

Basically it's just a screwup mitigation skill more than anything.. 2-prong attack sounds more useful if you ask me.

[Suikama]

Umm... There must be something I'm not getting cuz 6 orb enhanced skill sounds completely bogus the way I see it.

Benefits of matching 3 orbs of any colour: +25% damage to everything after the first match
benefits of enhanced thingie: +10% damage to just that 1 colour? NOT yay

Even with that enhanced attack thing, you NEVER want to match 6 orbs in a row intentionally, because it's far more effective to match 2 groups of 3 seperately,  How is this wrong?

Basically it's just a screwup mitigation skill more than anything.. 2-prong attack sounds more useful if you ask me.

uh hmm i totally forgot about that

time to crunch some numbers i guess

hitting someone with a x2 combo of 2 sets of 3 orbs hits for 2.5x damage
hitting with 1x combo of 1 row of 6 orbs hit for 1.75x damage + 10% = x1.925x damage

well shit you're totally right, +orbs ftw :derp:


on the other hand for the standard Dark Meta team that gets to stack them, you get 1.75x + 70% = 2.975x damage

in order to match breaking up orbs in damage you need 2.5/1.75 - 100% = 43% so at least 5 enhance att. abilities for 6 orbs to be stronger than 2 3 sets.

and then for two rows you need 7.0/4.375 - 100% = 60% so at least 3 to be even with and 4 to be better

so literally the only use for this skill is for Dark Meta/Satan teams :derp:

well and mono teams that involve a norse god, a ninja orb changer, a rider, and a mythical beast orb changer so uh basically people who dump stones into the REM instead of actually farming :derp:

[hyorinryu]

What about Goemon and 9x technique teams ?

[Suikama]

their subs have +orbs instead of enhanced att anyways so you dont really get a choice :derp:


also ANOTHER echidna skill up after an awakening feed

something is definitely strange here

not that im complaining :derp:

[hyorinryu]

their subs have +orbs instead of enhanced att anyways so you dont really get a choice :derp:


also ANOTHER echidna skill up after an awakening feed

something is definitely strange here

not that im complaining :derp:

What about Freyr and griffen? Or are saying that they already get +orbed things. On that note, I want a descending boss that enhances blue orbs.

Speaking of descending bosses, I bought Hera-Is for 5 stones. Would have been less, but I kept only healing to within 200 of my full health. I'm want to try it again with one of those switching resist dragons at some point.
Speaking of s

[Edible]

Speaking of wanting a descending boss that enhances blue orbs, you just got one that gives blue plus orbs in one of her awakenings I think

[Suikama]

What about Freyr and griffen? Or are saying that they already get +orbed things. On that note, I want a descending boss that enhances blue orbs.

Speaking of descending bosses, I bought Hera-Is for 5 stones. Would have been less, but I kept only healing to within 200 of my full health. I'm want to try it again with one of those switching resist dragons at some point.
Speaking of s

With Freyr and Griffon you only get 3 enhanced att abilities. You need to break 5 for it to be worth it and the other subs for Goemon (echidna, RGG) dont have it

And yeah Hera-Is gets +blue orbs

As does Siegfried who is technically a descend boss as well

[Ghaleon]

I think i have a shot at no stoning hera-is but not sure and i dont want to blow 50 stam when i have x2 dragon plant and pengdra village today

[O4rfish]

Sieg costs 1.8 million xp to awaken though. Hera-Is costs 0.8 million.

Ardbeg ate 3 of his clones and got max caffeine plus 1 skillup! Bodin ate the Tamadra, and Lucy ate a clone.
I have several unevolved things lying around (nagas, toytops, mandrakes, mfk) but they all demand their share of xp. Not enough pengdras to go around!

[Ghaleon]

Ill get tamdra later, today is too stam demanding to spend 10 on something i can get later =p