Author Topic: Touhou Blogging Thread (Read 209423 times)

Pakken11 · « **Reply #810 on:** May 31, 2015, 06:52:44 PM »

^It's all the difficulties. I believe it's been that way since MoF lol

Mero · « **Reply #811 on:** May 31, 2015, 07:08:20 PM »

So this collett person got 620M on LoLK's demo, on Lunatic.

Sanae is a monster for score in this game, I hope Reisen can keep up with this, as I feel she was supposed to be the scoring character.
And I really hope the 500M extend is not the last one, otherwise it would be kind of dissappointing, since scoring in the early stages will have to be put down for survival (beating Doremy 0/0 doesn't look ideal for a soon-to-be full run)

Uruwi · « **Reply #812 on:** May 31, 2015, 09:23:59 PM »

Quote from: GMK on May 31, 2015, 07:08:20 PM

So this collett person got 620M on LoLK's demo, on Lunatic.

Sanae is a monster for score in this game, I hope Reisen can keep up with this, as I feel she was supposed to be the scoring character.
And I really hope the 500M extend is not the last one, otherwise it would be kind of dissappointing, since scoring in the early stages will have to be put down for survival (beating Doremy 0/0 doesn't look ideal for a soon-to-be full run)

You know, people will just start becoming perfect late game.

Nonetheless, the life cap is too low.

Video?

Mero · « **Reply #813 on:** May 31, 2015, 11:15:04 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy8x on May 31, 2015, 09:23:59 PM

You know, people will just start becoming perfect late game.

Nonetheless, the life cap is too low.

Video?

Sure I guess, I meant it more for not being able to exploit the game to its fullest

it's just a replay. here

Nameschonvergeben · « **Reply #814 on:** June 01, 2015, 08:17:01 AM »

Quote from: GMK on May 31, 2015, 07:08:20 PM

So this collett person got 620M on LoLK's demo, on Lunatic.

Sanae is a monster for score in this game, I hope Reisen can keep up with this, as I feel she was supposed to be the scoring character.
And I really hope the 500M extend is not the last one, otherwise it would be kind of dissappointing, since scoring in the early stages will have to be put down for survival (beating Doremy 0/0 doesn't look ideal for a soon-to-be full run)

You want the game to be a bombfest with inflated resources? Why?

?: btw, the reason he ends with 0/0 resources is that there is no reward for keeping them so obviously you get the best score by spamming them out, so no matter how many there are he would always end with 0/0

Sakurei · « **Reply #815 on:** June 01, 2015, 10:17:24 AM »

Because working for your graze is something that last happened in 2009 with UFO and before that not since IN. Can't change that now, you know? Bombgrazing is the new way!

Mino ☆ · « **Reply #816 on:** June 02, 2015, 04:50:19 PM »

Oh no! How dare people enjoy a system such as bombing for graze!

Though personally, I'll be interested in seeing how the resources end up being spread out throughout the game. As it looks, you won't be able to use every resource in the first three stages or you'll end up with nothing from stage 4 onwards.

Mr Jovial · « **Reply #817 on:** June 03, 2015, 06:54:19 PM »

Bah, threw away a great run and ended on 5.07b. Very few mistakes until Kaguya...would've almost beaten my PB (5.17b) if I had captured her 3rd last spell...(flopped during first half losing a little under 100m). Bombed Buddhist Diamond, died to 3rd non and then deathbombed Salamander Shield (lack of power made the centre strategy harder). Also noticed my good runs start less than perfectly. I actually deathbombed Firefly Phenomenon this run :derp:. And I think my PB failed Wriggle's last spell. Oh well. :qq:

FamilyTeam · « **Reply #818 on:** June 07, 2015, 02:01:42 AM »

Well... sigh Last Thursday, I attempted to 1CC Touhou 7 for the 36th time, and for the 36th time, I failed. I've noticed...
...maybe...
Just MAYBE...
I'm skilled enough to actually pull it off. I lost my last life with 40 seconds left at Resurrection Butterfly. I HAD lost three lives in the run out of pure idiocy, four if you count that spell Yuyuko has where those ghosts follow you around, then go near you and explode into butterflies, I lost a life there since I forgot how the spell went. So, I thought that... maybe if I get rid of atleast 2 of those deaths, I can survive Resurrection Butterfly...
I don't have a trouble with Stage 4 anymore, except sometimes I end up panic bombing during the Prismriver sisters, which is something I will avoid in the future. Youmu, well, I found out that if I start Stage 6 with 5 lives and fight Yuyuko with 6 (or atleast about to get the sixth life) then it doesn't matter. I figured out you can bomb through most of Youmu's spells really easily with Marisa. Yuyuko's spells are all also very good places to bomb. If I can learn to dodge all of her nonspells and bomb all of her spells, that might also save me a life or two.

Karisa · « **Reply #819 on:** June 10, 2015, 12:59:53 AM »

Quote from: GMK on May 31, 2015, 07:08:20 PM

So this collett person got 620M on LoLK's demo, on Lunatic.

Sanae is a monster for score in this game, I hope Reisen can keep up with this, as I feel she was supposed to be the scoring character.
And I really hope the 500M extend is not the last one, otherwise it would be kind of dissappointing, since scoring in the early stages will have to be put down for survival (beating Doremy 0/0 doesn't look ideal for a soon-to-be full run)

Finally got a chance to watch this.

I find it interesting that the current Lunatic record, despite using 2 lives' worth of bombs in stage 1 and supergrazing Seiran's last two patterns, reaches Seiran with about the same score (31m) as the current Normal record, and clears the stage with even less.

In other words, it seems Lunatic's bullet speed actually reduces stage 1's score since following bullets is much less feasible. The difference may be even more prominent in the full version, when it'd likely not be worth spending so many bombs on stage 1. (Of course, it's possible a strategy improvement may bring Lunatic ahead in the future.)

ZM · « **Reply #820 on:** June 12, 2015, 11:59:30 PM »

I'm just curious how high we can get scores in the full-release if we're already getting over 600m after Doremy. Sure to be a sight to see and execute.

Karisa · « **Reply #821 on:** June 14, 2015, 02:17:33 AM »

Let's see, comparing the current Lunatic record replays after stage 3 to their final scores...

[monospace]Game: Stage3 score -> Final score (ratio) Player (replay name), shot type
EoSD: 302,882,650 -> 698,078,330 (2.30) 稼符一族 (ichizoku), ReimuB
PCB: 402,159,380 -> 3,174,824,650 (7.89) ナヤ (NAYA), SakuyaB [this is the highest non-TAS PCB replay I could find]
IN: 1,470,854,270 -> 6,609,993,580 (4.39) Alan (Depre), Youmu
MoF: 332,833,110 -> 2,214,529,240 (6.65) 名前の無い怪物 (Nanashi), MarisaB
SA: 286,726,930 -> 5,036,683,530 (17.57) ごぼう (gob), ReimuA
UFO: 304,400,980 -> 3,293,411,120 (10.82) アイスプライス (E-Splice), SanaeB
TD: 389,030,890 -> 3,747,775,430 (9.63) ひなぶ (7b.374), Youmu
DDC: 450,700,250 -> 2,045,748,300 (4.54) UKT, SakuyaB
[/monospace]
...It's a bit complicated.

Even ignoring some with clear reasons to be outliers (EoSD because it doesn't have PIV, MoF because its PIV caps early on Lunatic, and DDC since its record still isn't very optimized), the stage 6/stage 3 ratio still has quite a range.

I think the factor may be lower in LoLK than average, too, since much of the score comes from graze, which doesn't increase over the course of the game like PIV does.

However, none of the other games except IN even reach 500 million in stage 3, which predicts an above-average total score.

Ghost · « **Reply #822 on:** June 23, 2015, 09:49:24 AM »

This new game's difficulty is bonkers, I didn't expect my exam revision procrastination to be this stressful.

Mino ☆ · « **Reply #823 on:** June 23, 2015, 09:39:58 PM »

Quote from: FreeGothitelle on June 23, 2015, 09:49:24 AM

This new game's difficulty is bonkers, I didn't expect my exam revision procrastination to be this stressful.

I haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back.

Any plans or goals atm?

Ghost · « **Reply #824 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:14:01 AM »

Quote from: Mino ☆ on June 23, 2015, 09:39:58 PM

I haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back.

Any plans or goals atm?

Heya, nice work getting the PCB LNNN since I was gone.

Not going to commit to anything as I'm not sure if I'll end up playing touhou regularly again lol.

Mr Jovial · « **Reply #825 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:12:45 PM »

So uhh, I decided to start playing PoDD again. On lunatic. With Chiyuri. After months if not a year of not playing.
Why am I dying to stage 2 Reimu? Why does Kotohime wreck me so much? Why do I remember loads of technical things that help me survive but never use them when playing? :qq:
_{Why am I enjoying this so much? How small can this text get?:getdown:}

Emerald Mint · « **Reply #826 on:** July 02, 2015, 06:17:32 AM »

Decided to put Touhou a little higher on my free time priorities again after weeks of reduced attention span.
Currently working through more SA Lunatic/ReimuA, but getting the clear is tough as it is. It'll take a while for sure.

Drake · « **Reply #827 on:** July 15, 2015, 06:51:19 AM »

Nearly, nearly LNB SA with my first run in over a month. Run ended to Heaven and Hell and honestly I'm usually consistent enough that the last two cards aren't a problem. Plus, at least two deaths were very easily avoidable, both Insect Nest and Ghost Wheels dying at the very end by being just a smidge off. I have this, it's just a matter of time.

Esper · « **Reply #828 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:37:49 PM »

I decided to restart playing touhou since I recently got a mechanical keyboard. I thought to myself "I can get back to status quo!"

I was wrong. I was really wrong. I went from nearly 1cc'ing UFO Lunatic a year and a half ago to barely 1cc'ing IN Normal

Spoiler:

ILikeBulletZ · « **Reply #829 on:** July 29, 2015, 09:28:25 PM »

A little late for this, but:

Just did a PointDevice Lunatic run with 20 deaths (With all bombs used up in the places I deemed necessary for a real run, of course) after a fair amount of time not playing this one game...

I am ready for the real deal (Legacy 1cc Lunatic) or do I still suck?? Always keeping in mind that its doubtfull the real run is going to go as smooth as this, of course...

I also love how I have nearly 15 hours on a demo game. I do not think that has ever happened before xD.

Koog · « **Reply #830 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:07:31 AM »

Another Touhou game beaten!! :] Touhou 7 on Normal with SakuyaA!! :3 I'm quite happy!! Now, I want to know which of them should I try to beat next... 11, 12 or 13?

Totalheartsboy · « **Reply #831 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:24:33 AM »

Have to say that DDC Extra boss is a very hard to beat, but playing it with Sakuya A has the tricks to advance.
For a couple of months (2 i think) I have been advancing in the extra stage. Raiko Horikawa isn't that hard in her nonspells, BUT its hard when you only have 2 lifes.
In the time i have been playing the Extra stage i have managed to get to her spellcard "Blue Lady Show". And then i kept losing in that spellcard. The first phase of the spellcard is easy to evade, but then the 2nd one is tricky and i have to waste a bomb and finally the last phase where the bullets move very fast and then Raiko starts shooting bullets, which makes me run out of bombs and then lose. T-T
And then my question~ Is there a suggestion to beat this spellcard?

Karisa · « **Reply #832 on:** July 31, 2015, 06:06:28 AM »

For Raiko's survival, I find it easiest to stay near the bottom, so that there's more time to react to the rests. It's not worth it at all for a first clear though-- better to plan to use a few bombs for that last phase.

Especially since you don't find the second phase easy (the third phase involves dodging the same note pattern while navigating around the less predictable rests). For the second phase, you might find it easier to dash through gaps when you're in the center, as opposed to at the bottom? Don't forget you can use spell practice.

Also, I think you should work on gaining 2.0s in the stage portion, since you can have a lot more than 2 lives when reaching Raiko. Perhaps aim for 5-6 lives? Not sure how it is with SakuyaA (ReimuA can get 7 without too much trouble, 8 when capturing the final midboss spell that I'd assume you'd bomb in a first clear).

Uruwi · « **Reply #833 on:** August 01, 2015, 01:28:46 AM »

MarisaB is the best shot type.

Mr Jovial · « **Reply #834 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:55:06 PM »

Hey look, I just capped Keine's "Three Sacred Treasures - Country" in a scorerun! Y'know which attack I mean right? It's that one attack of Keine's that I'm supposed to bomb for time points... :getdown: :V :colonveeplusalpha:

EDIT: On a completely different note, Nazrin's stage 5 midboss spell might be one of the most obnoxious attacks in the series...Feels like "Get good RNG or die" :<

Uruwi · « **Reply #835 on:** August 03, 2015, 11:15:48 AM »

Quote from: Mr Jovial on August 02, 2015, 01:55:06 PM

Hey look, I just capped Keine's "Three Sacred Treasures - Country" in a scorerun! Y'know which attack I mean right? It's that one attack of Keine's that I'm supposed to bomb for time points... :getdown: :V :colonveeplusalpha:

EDIT: On a completely different note, Nazrin's stage 5 midboss spell might be one of the most obnoxious attacks in the series...Feels like "Get good RNG or die" :<

I thought you were actually supposed to supergraze that.

Mr Jovial · « **Reply #836 on:** August 03, 2015, 12:07:44 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy8x on August 03, 2015, 11:15:48 AM

I thought you were actually supposed to supergraze that.

If you're playing Netherworld team or Yuyuko solo you use whatever bombs you have to graze, normally you'd have 2 bombs at that point. Then you'd supergraze any of the waves you didn't bomb

Pakken11 · « **Reply #837 on:** August 04, 2015, 04:34:13 AM »

@Jovial: What do you find harder - Nazrin or Post-Nazrin?

Mr Jovial · « **Reply #838 on:** August 04, 2015, 11:24:19 AM »

By post Nazrin I'm guessing you mean everything after her but before Shou? In that case, Nazrin. The red spammy enemies aren't too bad with Reimu A if you unfocus whereas Nazrin can throw some brutally difficult stuff at you with her spell.

Pakken11 · « **Reply #839 on:** August 05, 2015, 03:05:47 AM »

Quote from: Mr Jovial on August 04, 2015, 11:24:19 AM

By post Nazrin I'm guessing you mean everything after her but before Shou? In that case, Nazrin. The red spammy enemies aren't too bad with Reimu A if you unfocus whereas Nazrin can throw some brutally difficult stuff at you with her spell.

Ah. I used Sanae-A for my 1cc, so maybe that's why I found it so ridiculous?