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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #390 on: August 17, 2013, 09:38:31 AM »
Seems like Yumeko now has nothing over Sakuya anymore :V

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #391 on: August 17, 2013, 10:27:53 AM »
I wouldn't say it's exactly the same. It is very similar sounding. Reminds me of Koishi's song, but Koishi's does it better.

Here it is in case anyone was wondering.
I fully expect reversing her theme to become a fad in musical arranges, much like the *pop* in UFO Stage 4.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #392 on: August 17, 2013, 10:28:10 AM »
According to twitter, he disappeared into alcohol for two days after Comiket. Then he came back online and saw the bug reports tweeted at him.

See? Fans helping the creator. The heavily-drinking creator.

The system works!

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #393 on: August 17, 2013, 10:28:48 AM »
See? Fans helping the creator. The heavily-drinking creator.

The system works!
The liver, not so much.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #394 on: August 17, 2013, 10:39:47 AM »
I'm sure the fandom will pool their monies together if when the time comes for a transplant.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #395 on: August 17, 2013, 11:32:53 AM »
I just realised something.

If Seija is happy when you're sad, sad when you are happy and generally feels the opposite of you, that means it's fair to say she's in pleasure when you're in pain, and is therefor canonically a sadist.

Move over Yuuka.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #396 on: August 17, 2013, 11:40:37 AM »
Does she canonically feel the opposite of you? That's neat.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #397 on: August 17, 2013, 11:52:53 AM »
Well her profile says she 'thinks the opposite of what others think, likes what others hate, and hates herself when she makes others happy'.

The opposite should hold true, she is happy when she makes others sad, and, well, most people hate... wait.

If she likes what others hate, couldn't make make her a Masochist too 0_o

OK thinking about what Seija likes and dislikes just makes your head hurt.

Ultimately, of course, Seija is a completely screwed up character that is probobly literally impossible to get along with. Especially since she likes being shunned [Because most others hate it]


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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #398 on: August 17, 2013, 12:11:38 PM »
I'm just really satisfied by the endless fanfic possibilities this provides.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #399 on: August 17, 2013, 01:07:03 PM »
Well her profile says she 'thinks the opposite of what others think, likes what others hate, and hates herself when she makes others happy'.

Uh oh, edgy Redditor alert!

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #400 on: August 17, 2013, 01:21:08 PM »
Oh god now I have a mental image of Kaguya and Seija having a Reddit flame war.


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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #401 on: August 17, 2013, 03:51:46 PM »
Seija is the most dsfunctional character ever. Parsee doesn't hold a candle to her. I'm really curious on how people will handle her in fics.

If she likes what others hate, couldn't make make her a Masochist too 0_o
Would explain why she has an ahegao after you beat her >.>
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #402 on: August 17, 2013, 03:59:47 PM »
Stage4 normal mode pattern safespot and hard/lunatic survival strategy demonstrated in lunatic mode. Also patterns with notes and lazers in stage4 (and extra?) can be misdirected. I don't think on higher difficulties those are even meant to be dodged.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #403 on: August 17, 2013, 04:13:34 PM »
Seija is the most dsfunctional character ever. Parsee doesn't hold a candle to her. I'm really curious on how people will handle her in fics.
Koishi is probably still more dysfunctional and would likely drive Seija completely nuts because she's pretty much impossible to oppose.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #404 on: August 17, 2013, 04:23:49 PM »
Koishi is probably still more dysfunctional and would likely drive Seija completely nuts because she's pretty much impossible to oppose.
Koishi isn't that dysfunctional. She's just pure Id, going around doing whatever whims she has at the moment because she has no conscious mind to judge if she should do it or not.

...well ok that is dysfunctinal, but at least it's dependent only on herself; Seija has to oppose other people all the time to function. Like you said, just imagine how she'd react to Koishi.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #405 on: August 17, 2013, 04:25:57 PM »
Well her profile says she 'thinks the opposite of what others think, likes what others hate, and hates herself when she makes others happy'.
Wait minute so, that means if someone wants to put her in a RPG game then... shit is going to get real.  :V

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #406 on: August 17, 2013, 04:29:56 PM »
Probably only her signature attacks / abilities will be wonky.

Unless you want to pull a reversed Imposter Ditto.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #407 on: August 17, 2013, 04:45:07 PM »
Zun should have reversed Saija's theme when she flips the screen. Like the Trance music in TD. Would've made an interesting live boss theme.
Also,
The fourth stage boss is different depending on what you choose in player selection, like 6-8.
The fifth boss has a gimmick that makes a what should be a second stage boss a fifth stage boss.
Anyone feel like the pattern is coming back?
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #408 on: August 17, 2013, 05:05:16 PM »
So, Seija is basically:

The new closest thing we have to an 'evil' character. In fact, she probobly is evil.
Completely impossible to get along with.
Completely plausible that she's a Sadomasochist. [Loves causing pain and receiving it]
Loves to make people sad, and is sad when they are happy, combined with her talkative nature, probobly making her a Yukari/Yuyuko level troll too.

She wins 'Touhou I would not like to be around' award.

She also probobly wins 'Hardest Touhou to do right' award. Inb4 Seija Quest

Also, on the topic of Seija, I'm gonna nominate Sukuna for Team ⑨ levels of stupid considering she trusted someone who admitted she is of a species that are basically as compulsive liars as Marisa. Not to mention without her mallet she *is* pretty weak, and she's certainly childish.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #409 on: August 17, 2013, 05:17:38 PM »
Seija isn't evil per se. She's just a contrarian. That can mean some evil doings, maybe, but not for the sake of doing evil; if evil is done, it's just a consequence of her need to contradict everyone. She enjoys taking the opposite position, being edgy and having unpopular opinions.

Please no one give her an account here. I hate to think what she'd do to TARC.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #410 on: August 17, 2013, 05:22:45 PM »
Zun should have reversed Saija's theme when she flips the screen. Like the Trance music in TD. Would've made an interesting live boss theme.

The trance music isn't reversed. It's a low quality(purposely) remix, but yeah that would've been cool.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #411 on: August 17, 2013, 05:27:24 PM »
I know the Trance music isn't reversed. I meant that the music changes depending on events. (Dying, flipping, etc.)

I can't stop listening to the music. Especially the stage 6 theme which I actually prefer over the boss theme.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #412 on: August 17, 2013, 05:31:55 PM »
I can't stop listening to the music. Especially the stage 6 theme which I actually prefer over the boss theme.
Agree. 'Specially the very first bit. Should have kept it like that all the way.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #413 on: August 17, 2013, 05:43:00 PM »
Aside from Willows, I'm not too keen on the Stage 1~3 music.

Stage 4~6 and EX, on the other hand... I seriously think that is the best Stage 4 theme music ever, I think Magical Storm gives Gensokyo the Gods Loved a run for best stage theme full stop. It fits the atmosphere of the stage so well it's insane. Also love the Stage 4 boss theme.

Also already seen some lovely fanart of the Sisters. Not much of good quality of the others yet.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #414 on: August 17, 2013, 06:02:30 PM »
I love all the music in this game.

Ah, who am I kidding? I pretty much love everything about this game. I have to confess, I haven't enjoyed a Touhou shooter since GFW, and before that, MoF. I was beginning to wonder if I was destined to keep making daily sacrificial offerings for a new photog game when the DDC demo came out. And in playing the full game, yeah. I'm pretty sold. It might even have a place in my Top 3.

Anyway, sorry, what were we talking about? Oh right, the music. I've found myself whistling Seija's theme a lot. It's pretty rockin'.

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« Reply #415 on: August 17, 2013, 06:03:38 PM »
I like Sukuna's theme the best, especially because of the rock theme. <3
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« Reply #416 on: August 17, 2013, 06:16:35 PM »
I always think about Raiko's theme. O_o (I just can't stop thinking about it!) That also goes for Seija's theme.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #417 on: August 17, 2013, 06:28:24 PM »
On the topic of 'Evil Seija', did some more thinking.

She thinks the opposite of what others think, therefor, what is usually seen as good, is evil to her, and vice versa.

Her ethics and morals would be backwards. Which kind of screams 'evil'.


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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #418 on: August 17, 2013, 06:53:30 PM »
I'm wondering, is Seija opposite just for the sake of being opposite or does she actually have inverted beliefs? What I mean is, if she were talking to Marisa she'd say stealing is bad but if she were talking to Byakuren stealing is good. Is that the case, or is stealinggood to her in general because it's considered bad in general?
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #419 on: August 17, 2013, 06:55:14 PM »
Or she does this as a personal quirk and she's perfectly sane?