Author Topic: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges (on hold again)  (Read 63736 times)

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2013, 09:53:40 AM »
#6 - Extra
ARF - 602,841,940 - C - 0.1% - Replay

Made some pretty big mistakes in the stage, kept going to see how it was. Timed out the first, fourth and the fifth spell and capped the survival. Sadly died twice to the last curvy laser spell and ended up finishing 5/0 So, this can be improved by a lot.

#6 - Lunatic
ARF - 375,672,950 - 5(final spell) - 0.1% - Replay

Many silly mistakes, dying with bombs in stock and such, highlight of the run was probably ramming Seija 2 seconds away from a successful timeout of Decree of the Dream Bow of Heaven & Earth :3
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 07:29:57 PM by ARF »
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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #91 on: August 28, 2013, 12:00:17 AM »
Alright, I've decided to make my first post here with a submission for challenge #6:

#6 - Extra
SomeGuy712x - 625,257,050 - Clear - 0.0% - (replay) (video)

Finished with 7 lives in reserve and perfectly timed out half of the spells (including the survival spell for its 29 million points). There were at least a couple of silly deaths along the way though, but I don't think those deaths hurt me too much, since I maxed out my lives at one point later.

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2013, 01:06:25 AM »
#6 - Extra
ARF - 642,136,460 - C - 0.1% - Replay

Failed the survival, ended 6/2 if I remember correctly. 700m next? :3


#6 - Extra
ARF - 687,449,790 - C - 0.1% - Replay

Another random credit, managed to waste too many resources at end, again. Ended 6/3.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2013, 01:05:29 AM by ARF »
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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #93 on: August 29, 2013, 09:05:26 PM »
#5 - Easy
Waah - 60,110 - Border Team - Cb - 0.0% - Replay

>dying on Easy
I also don't know how this game works.

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2013, 02:52:40 AM »
So #5 did turn out to favor a full pacifist run after all...

I wonder if I should have added a "constant shooting" requirement... Is anyone interested in that? I don't believe it's fair to change an existing challenge after any submissions are posted for it, but I could call 5+shooting "#5.1" or something.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 02:57:03 AM by Karisa »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2013, 03:58:32 AM »
So #5 did turn out to favor a full pacifist run after all...
Eh, not necessarily, especially if you want to win a 0 time tie with score (although mine is low 'cause I died several times). Gotta collect those stage point items. Killing any enemies or nonspells when they don't have familiars is safe.

Wasn't gonna post this because I messed up and got some time/I went to FinalA (didn't unlock FinalB yet on that score.dat at the time)/I developed better stage routes for items (and survival lol), but whatever.

#5 - Easy
Star King- 60,030 - Magic Team - Cb - 0.1% - Replay

I think it's a pretty interesting challenge actually. I have fun collecting as much items as I can without getting time.

Edit: Oh, I guess there's no tiebreaker and I collected point items for nothing :(
« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 04:01:52 AM by Star King »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #96 on: August 30, 2013, 08:45:35 AM »
#6 - Extra
s - 207,526,800 - Ex (wall ramming spell) - 0.010% - Replay

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #97 on: August 30, 2013, 11:55:36 AM »
So #5 did turn out to favor a full pacifist run after all...

I wonder if I should have added a "constant shooting" requirement... Is anyone interested in that? I don't believe it's fair to change an existing challenge after any submissions are posted for it, but I could call 5+shooting "#5.1" or something.
Don't know if it has been done before, but a minimum time/PIV run that got all the last spell(s) per stage (or alternatively, enough for the Night Bonus) would have required more planning (not that every challenge should require planning, since that kind of discourages most people from doing them).

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #98 on: August 30, 2013, 02:01:20 PM »
#5 - Easy
Nal Yoo - 682,810 - Youmu - Cb - 0.3% - Replay

\o/ last place!

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2013, 03:49:48 AM »
#5 - Easy
Mero - 214410 - Youmu - Ca - 0.47% - Replay

Well, I tried keeping pacifism to a minimum, and went for a full-cap run but failed Hourai Elixir.  :derp:

I think "constant shooting" would make stuff more interesting, because it brings more challenge out of the mechanics (killing familiars before the enemies, not letting yourself into the extremes of the gauge, etc.), also going full pacifist will generally give a low PIV on most games anyway

Things I've done (and maybe will improve):
SA L6MNB | SA Lunatic 3b Scorerun | MoF LNB | PCB LNB |DDC LNB

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2013, 04:06:15 AM »
Edit: Oh, I guess there's no tiebreaker and I collected point items for nothing :(
It's part of the overall rules actually.
- The tiebreaker is score, unless otherwise specified.
This applies to all challenges that aren't already ranked by highest (or perhaps lowest) score, unless I specifically state in the rules that there's a different/no tiebreaker. It's already relevant to #6 right now (and I expected it to be relevant, which is why I included score in the submission format).

(As for IN low PIV constant shooting, I'll add it in if I get more support for it)
« Last Edit: August 31, 2013, 04:07:46 AM by Karisa »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #101 on: September 08, 2013, 04:51:03 AM »
#6 - Extra
Mero - 556, 455, 450 - C - 0.1% - Replay

Reeally bad stage route and I don't even know what happened on Raiko's 3rd spell, but I still cleared with 6 lives left, so I'm okay with this


Things I've done (and maybe will improve):
SA L6MNB | SA Lunatic 3b Scorerun | MoF LNB | PCB LNB |DDC LNB

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #102 on: September 09, 2013, 03:53:57 AM »
#6 - Extra
SomeGuy712x - 691,987,050 - C - 0.0% (Replay)

Sweet! I just managed to complete this challenge with maximum lives!

Should I make a video of this?

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #5/#6
« Reply #103 on: September 09, 2013, 07:39:03 PM »
#6 - Extra
ARF - 721,749,750 - C - 0.0% - Replay
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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #104 on: September 09, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »
It's technically past the deadline, but it doesn't matter.

The next challenges will be posted this evening, probably.

Edit: posted.
I'm concerned I've been discouraging participation by making the challenges too restrictive lately, so I tried something simpler for challenge #7. The retake on #5 also available if anyone feels like trying it.

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Results archive:

#7 - PCB point item collection

- Collect as many point items in PCB as you can!
- All shot types allowed.
- Easy/Normal/Hard/Lunatic allowed.

Format:
Challenge number - Difficulty
Player - Point items - Shot type - Stage - Slowdown - Replay

Example:
#7 - Normal
Sample - 1400 - ReimuB - C - 0.123% - Replay

Rankings:
Easy
Seppo Hovi - 1569 - MarisaB - C - 0.290% - Replay (1,094,751,910 points)
Star King - 1569 - MarisaB - C - 0.463% - Replay (974,716,810 points)
Emerald - 1537 - ReimuB - C - 0.285% - Replay
SomeGuy712x - 1514 - MarisaB - C - 0.067% - Replay
navpirx - 1489 - MarisaB - C - 0.278% - Replay
s - 1435 - MarisaB - C - 0.150% - Replay

Normal
Seppo Hovi - 1560 - MarisaB - C - 0.248% - Replay
Star King - 1546 - MarisaB - C - 0.411% - Replay
Emerald - 1453 - MarisaB - C - 0.255% - Replay
L3PiK - 1400 - ReimuB - C - 0.148% - Replay

Hard
Seppo Hovi - 1482 - ReimuB - C - 0.234% - Replay
s - 827 - ReimuB - 4 - 0.101% - Replay


#8 - SA ReimuA, no rightward movement

SA ReimuA can technically reach any point on the screen while being restricted to only three of the four arrow keys...

- Survive as far as you can in SA with ReimuA!
- Do not move to the right. (Moving left, up, down, or diagonal combinations of those is allowed.)
- All difficulties allowed, including Extra.

Format:
Challenge number - Difficulty
Player - Score - Stage (progress*) - Slowdown - Replay
*if not a clear, something that indicates how much progress you've made within the stage, such as "2nd boss spellcard"

Example:
#8 - Normal
Sample - 25,000,000 - 3 (final spell) - 0.1% - Replay

Rankings:
Easy
Mero - 131,690,090 - C - 0.09% - Replay

Normal
Mero - 117,098,470 - 6 ("Mega Flare") - 0.16% - Replay

Hard
Mero - 158,903,580 - 5 (Orin's penultimate spell) -0.15% -  Replay

Lunatic
Mero - 65,849,730 - 3 (Yuugi's last spell) - 0.31% - Replay
/ Mino - 52,799,760 - 3 (Yuugi's Second Spell) - 0.100% - Replay
\ Vanhaomena - 71,976,020 - 3 (Mt Ooe) - 0.020% - Replay
Emerald - 17,664,020 - 1 (after Yamame's first spell) - 0.0% - Replay

Extra
Wriggle - 145,032,720 - 1 (near end of Koishi's 5th nonspell) - 0.100% - Replay


#5.1 - IN time orb avoidance, constant shooting

Might as well also include this, if anyone feels like trying. It's a repeat of challenge 5, but with an additional rule that should substantially change the gameplay.

- Clear IN with the lowest point item value possible! (Since time orbs add to PIV, and PIV carries over between stages, it's easier to track this way.)
- You must always shoot when possible. (Hold Z all the time, basically. If a bomb prevents you from shooting, that's fine.)
- Only 1ccs allowed. Either FinalA or FinalB is acceptable.
- The shot type you use must be able to reach both ends of the human/youkai gauge. That is, you may only use a team (or solo Youmu).
- All difficulties allowed, including Extra.

Format:
Challenge number - Difficulty
Player - Ending PIV - Shot type - Stage (Ca/Cb) - Slowdown - Replay

Example:
#5.1 - Normal
Sample - 220,000 - Border Team - Cb - 0.111% - Replay

Rankings:
Easy
Emerald - 70,820 - Marisa & Alice - Ca - 0.000% - Replay
SomeGuy712x - 206,020 - Marisa & Alice - Cb - 0.000% - Replay

Normal
SomeGuy712x - 182,670 - Marisa & Alice - Ca - 0.000% - Replay
Emerald - 226460 - Reimu&Yukari - C~FinalA - 0.000% - Replay


Deadline: Sunday, September 22 September 29
« Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 01:29:46 AM by Karisa »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2013, 10:26:31 PM »
It's technically past the deadline, but it doesn't matter.
Oh, does this mean I could try to beat ARF's score on challenge #6 if I wanted?

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2013, 10:52:23 PM »
#8 - Normal
Mero - 117,098,470 - 6 ("Mega Flare") - 0.16% - Replay 

This was pretty nuts, it's funny how some stuff even on Normal become actually dangerous, and some others become almost impossible

Things I've done (and maybe will improve):
SA L6MNB | SA Lunatic 3b Scorerun | MoF LNB | PCB LNB |DDC LNB

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2013, 01:41:23 AM »
#7 - Normal
L3PiK - 1400 - ReimuB - C - 0.1% - Replay

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #108 on: September 10, 2013, 09:07:25 AM »
#7 - Easy
navpirx - 1489 - MarisaB - C - 0.278% - Replay

I actually had to unlock stages with MarisaB for further experiments. This is the result of the unlocking clear. It's still pretty pathetic, considering the shot type I picked and the way I played. This is the first time I have ever reached the 1400 extend, incidentally. Note to self: stop dying on Yuyuko's and Prismrivers' penultimate spell cards.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2013, 09:09:59 AM by navpirx »

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #109 on: September 10, 2013, 06:22:01 PM »
Oh, does this mean I could try to beat ARF's score on challenge #6 if I wanted?
I actually meant it didn't matter as long as the next round wasn't posted (since I was half a day late in posting it). Not sure about now. Of course, you could still try for fun.

Does anyone else have an opinion on submitting to past challenges?
« Last Edit: September 10, 2013, 06:30:29 PM by Karisa »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2013, 08:00:07 PM »
I actually meant it didn't matter as long as the next round wasn't posted (since I was half a day late in posting it). Not sure about now. Of course, you could still try for fun.

Does anyone else have an opinion on submitting to past challenges?

Sounds cool, though I'd like it if submissions made after the challenge ended would be kept separate/marked as such.
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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #111 on: September 11, 2013, 08:23:23 AM »
#7 - Easy
Seppo Hovi - 1508 - ReimuB - C - 0.272% - Replay

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I'll post to encourage the other guy to post as well. This wasn't very good, but it'll have to do (for now).

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #112 on: September 11, 2013, 09:25:52 AM »
#7 - Easy
Emerald - 1511 - ReimuB - C - 0.222% - Replay

A bit ropey, missed a few here and there, plus a fair bit of bombspam. Also worked on a Hard run, but that ended badly on Cherry Blossom Sign "Perfect Cherry Blossom of Sumizome -Deep Sleep-" at around 1300.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 05:55:21 AM by Emerald »

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #113 on: September 11, 2013, 11:02:23 AM »
#5.1 - Normal
Emerald - 226460 value - Reimu&Yukari - C~FinalA - 0.000% - Replay
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 05:55:39 AM by Emerald »

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #114 on: September 11, 2013, 11:24:06 AM »
My DDC extra marisaB bomb-only challenge result is not on the list.

#7 - Hard
s - 827 - ReimuB - 4 - 0.101% - Replay

I bombed too generously in the earlier stages and failed to realize that i might need those lives and bombs for clearing hard mode :V This will have to do for now.

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2013, 06:15:54 PM »
#7 - Normal
Emerald - 1453 - MarisaB - C - 0.255% - Replay

Here I wanted to experiment with a different character and try out a few things. Kind of find my ways aggressive. Notable deaths inbound.

1600 feels like a far off dream. Perhaps impossible, unless you have severe luck.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 05:55:57 AM by Emerald »

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #116 on: September 12, 2013, 09:57:31 PM »
Half-hearted attempts at combining scoring and item collection lead into doing neither well. Ah, well, it's time to play the rest of my cards.

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#7 - Easy
Seppo Hovi - 1518 - ReimuB - C - 0.335% - Replay

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#7 - Normal
Seppo Hovi - 1455 - ReimuB - C - 0.390% - Replay

I might sleep before considering Hard or Lunatic. Tomorrow will tell.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 09:59:16 PM by Vee »

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2013, 05:51:08 AM »
#7 - Easy
Emerald - 1537 - ReimuB - C - 0.285% - Replay

Slightly improved with a sacrificial strategy. Survived most spell cards at full power.
Also, I don't think my scores have shown up on the boards.

Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2013, 09:50:30 AM »
#7 - Normaleasy
s - 1406 - MarisaA - C - 0.150% - Replay
« Last Edit: September 14, 2013, 12:26:37 PM by touhoumaniac »

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Re: Karisa's Atypical Touhou Challenges - #7/#8/#5.1
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2013, 10:16:17 AM »
Yeah ok, that's a good run as the collection goes. Time to go down the drain with the conditions.

#7 - Easy
Seppo Hovi - 1543 - ReimuB - C - 0.232% - Replay

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Touhoumaniac, your replay links to an Easy MarisaA replay, not Normal.

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#7 - Hard
Seppo Hovi - 1482 - ReimuB - C - 0.234% - Replay

Whatever.

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Oh, the 1600 extend exists. However, noting the continue used, it's not certain that it'd be doable on a full run without continues.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 11:52:43 AM by Vee »