Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F  (Read 272808 times)

Xarizzar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #570 on: August 17, 2013, 11:48:27 AM »
Thought so. But I still asked, because higher MAG stat doesn't always mean that it's used. #gamecreatortrolling

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #571 on: August 17, 2013, 12:37:29 PM »
Spoiler:
Apparently the 8th floor Utsuho event needs Minoriko's BP too
E: The 10th floor Minoriko event will be similar, I believe. But who will need the BP beside Minoriko?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #572 on: August 17, 2013, 12:40:42 PM »
Can anyone paste the japanese name for a key that you usually need to open the locked treasure chests? Really need couple of em but i don't know where to farm/find it
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #573 on: August 17, 2013, 12:49:29 PM »
Spoiler:
Anyone have recuited Mokou at 10F?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #574 on: August 17, 2013, 01:19:12 PM »
宝箱の鍵 I think.

Incidentally, has anyone else found themselves relying on Reimu a lot less in this game?  In laby1 she was indispensable but here I barely find myself needing her for some reason.  The fact that none of her skills seem to do a lot for her might be part of this.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #575 on: August 17, 2013, 01:25:54 PM »
thank you!

i ditch Reimu the moment i got
Spoiler:
Reisen on 9F
, since i feel that the bosses somewhat easier than THL 1 (either that or because i keeping Rinnosuke on team with his money+loot bonus) so i just massbuff with Keine+Aya and bludgeon every bosses to death.

edit: forgot spoiler sorry
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #576 on: August 17, 2013, 01:26:21 PM »
Spoiler:
I finally beat 6F Tenshi by defeating her.
To give a rough sketch of how much I've grinded, Reimu was Lv. 35, Chen was Lv. 38, and Utsuho was Lv. 31.
Didn't use any money at Patchouli's yet.

The dialogue didn't change, though.

I really like the Character Reset option. Being able to switch from All Attack to All HP and back again whenever you want is really cool.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #577 on: August 17, 2013, 01:27:48 PM »
Incidentally, has anyone else found themselves relying on Reimu a lot less in this game?  In laby1 she was indispensable but here I barely find myself needing her for some reason.  The fact that none of her skills seem to do a lot for her might be part of this.

Kinda agree about Reimu being a bit less useful. Rumia's heal can do almost as much as Reimu's can for me. Keine gets enough turns doing buffs that Reimu's slot is better suited for another utility.

Xarizzar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #578 on: August 17, 2013, 01:37:28 PM »
Indeed, Reimu is a bit less useful for me too... But I doubt I'll ditch her.

Also, question for those who have gotten far:
Spoiler:
Do most bosses have high enough Spirit resistance to make characters like Yuyuko deal not so much damage, like in LoT1? Cause up to where I am now, enemies don't have THAT much(although I still haven't recruited her)...

CloverNaght

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #579 on: August 17, 2013, 02:09:12 PM »
Indeed, Reimu is a bit less useful for me too... But I doubt I'll ditch her.

Also, question for those who have gotten far:
Spoiler:
Do most bosses have high enough Spirit resistance to make characters like Yuyuko deal not so much damage, like in LoT1? Cause up to where I am now, enemies don't have THAT much(although I still haven't recruited her)...
Spoiler:
i checked on bestiary (mind you i'm only reached 16F so far, that 13-15F gave me headache) only Youmu weak against MYS so yea....
now you just tempt me to ditch marisa too aw
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #580 on: August 17, 2013, 02:45:06 PM »
Also, question for those who have gotten far:
Spoiler:
Do most bosses have high enough Spirit resistance to make characters like Yuyuko deal not so much damage, like in LoT1? Cause up to where I am now, enemies don't have THAT much(although I still haven't recruited her)...
She has both Spirit and Dark attacks now actually.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #581 on: August 17, 2013, 03:27:22 PM »
So who -isn't- on the wiki now...?

Spoiler:
Yuka, Yukari, Flandre, Yuyuko... and Renko/Maribel are probably expansion-only, or at the very least not available until a later patch. That still leaves like five more characters, if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm misremembering, though. Also the Diva subclass. Oh, everyone returned from the first game, so Shikieiki should be around somewhere... and Tenshi is fought but no one's mentioned recruiting her.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #582 on: August 17, 2013, 04:15:52 PM »
If anyone has time, the thing I would like to know most is what the Hakurei items do. My kanji is atrocious and many of them are too small for me to make out stroke by stroke and feed into jisho, and I can't figure out what they do by wafting over them and seeing what stats change. Most of the items I get seem to be in that category (or maybe materials, but I don't even know where to look those up or what they do or how Nitori's crafting works. Oh well.)

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #583 on: August 17, 2013, 04:37:09 PM »
again..... Yasaka Kanako is not found on wiki. i just recruited her. need translate it.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #584 on: August 17, 2013, 05:04:44 PM »
Spoiler:
Anyone know how to bypass this event? http://i.imgur.com/wxIEU6Q.jpg the event blocked the path and yukari says something, that means do i need BP for her for this?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #585 on: August 17, 2013, 06:53:48 PM »
After some quick testing Marisa's "Increase party's Mystic Damage while on the front row" seems to net about a 20% increase with just one level.  That's crazy good for a character who only uses one element anyways like her.

also ugh that tree FOE on 7F was a pain and there's hardly any reward for beating it either.

Xarizzar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #586 on: August 17, 2013, 07:02:20 PM »
So, I got to 8F, and...

Spoiler(?): http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5919/u3vz.png

What the hell? *Points at the storyline message box*

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #587 on: August 17, 2013, 07:11:59 PM »
So who -isn't- on the wiki now...?

Spoiler:
Yuka, Yukari, Flandre, Yuyuko... and Renko/Maribel are probably expansion-only, or at the very least not available until a later patch. That still leaves like five more characters, if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm misremembering, though. Also the Diva subclass. Oh, everyone returned from the first game, so Shikieiki should be around somewhere... and Tenshi is fought but no one's mentioned recruiting her.

Spoiler:
I just found Shikieiki behind some rocks on 13F, surprised me big time as I was expecting another guardian.


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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #588 on: August 17, 2013, 07:49:07 PM »
Spoiler:
I just found Shikieiki behind some rocks on 13F, surprised me big time as I was expecting another guardian.

Edit: Better question who appeared in the cutscene before
Spoiler:
the shikieiki fight. i'm assuming this was a fight against considering the the icon.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #589 on: August 17, 2013, 08:39:24 PM »
Spoiler:
Dude those bushes at floor 8 is the key to yuka.

Okay everyone those bushes i know how to move some of them and what character events need to happen for this to work. Ok so certain events have effects on those bushes as i said but these events also need BP on certain characters. I'm missing some though so do watch out but if someone would like to fill me in to which character events need to happen to move the bushes tell me.
Here are some i can remember:
Floor 5(4?): Wriggle
Somewhere in the forest biome (i think 8 ): Okuu
Floor 10: Nitori
Floor 13: Cirno

Either way once you get all those events to move the bushes you can finally battle:
Oh and i think that achievement is a postgame thing, Hinacle.

Edit:
Btw the last
Spoiler:
14F nazrin event also needs nitori to have some bp (not sure how much)

Spoiler:
You also need to have enough BP for Minoriko on the 3F event to rid the first bush.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #590 on: August 17, 2013, 08:40:14 PM »
http://puu.sh/44cDq.xlsx

I've been filling in the file Kuil had given before. Special items, their descriptions, rock messages, and floor names are mostly done by now, although there are some lines that I'm still stuck on. Regarding floor names though, they probably need to be way less literal and more poetic, something which I'm rather bad at.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #591 on: August 17, 2013, 08:54:24 PM »
RegalStar:

So, how am I supposed to interpret this file? I notice that at times you have English text in the first column, other times Japanese in the first and English in the second,

I think the third column is just for translation notes, though?

RegalStar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #592 on: August 17, 2013, 10:17:13 PM »
English in first column was already there from Kuil. I added all the translations to the second column (in order to keep the first column intact), and yes, third column is translation notes.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #593 on: August 17, 2013, 10:22:52 PM »
Ah, okay.

Do you think you could do the menus next? I should have time to work on this soon, so I'd like to get a basic menu patch out at least.

Also, it seems unlikely that Deranged will be available to translate. He hasn't responded to the email I sent him earlier yet.

Xarizzar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #594 on: August 17, 2013, 11:16:45 PM »
Aren't we going to wait, after all? Won't the new update patches screw them up?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #595 on: August 17, 2013, 11:52:59 PM »
Yes. I haven't checked to make sure, but I imagine that every address (or at least many of them)  in the text dump has changed by now. The text dump is for 1.100, after all, not 1.120.

But for small numbers of lines - for example, just the text needed to translate the menus - this isn't a problem, even if recalibrated manually. And the menus and absolutely the most important thing to get translated, since it makes it a lot easier to play the game. Even after playing the trial, I never did figure out how I was supposed to level up skills. I could only do bonus points to stats.

Finally, I already wrote a program to check translations against the LoT1 stuff for consistency. It shouldn't be too hard to update it to insert the new translations, making everything a lot easier.

RegalStar

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #596 on: August 17, 2013, 11:58:15 PM »
Ah, okay.

Do you think you could do the menus next? I should have time to work on this soon, so I'd like to get a basic menu patch out at least.

Also, it seems unlikely that Deranged will be available to translate. He hasn't responded to the email I sent him earlier yet.

Sure. If you don't mind though, can you point to me again where I can find the menu stuff currently?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #597 on: August 18, 2013, 12:05:52 AM »
I cannot, sorry. The entire file is a jumbled mess, and I have no idea where anything is. Plus, I can't transcribe Japanese to find stuff. I'd recommend just typing out a Japanese string from the menu (e.g. the level up option in the shrine) and ctrl-f for that in the complete text dump. A lot of the other menu options should be near that, since most related lines should be grouped together, and just go from there. Repeat with another ctrl-f when you run out of  nearby related stuff.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #598 on: August 18, 2013, 01:33:30 AM »
Tomorrow I'll have time to finalize a lot of stuffs for you regalstar, just pm what you need me to sent you. I'll also do characters, more work on items, etc. I haven't been there for 2 days and look at all the translation that needs to be done. I'll try to find as much of the event requirements as I can as well to help everyone who's stuck. I'll also need to take the time to get up to snuff with my game, get the BP and items. I still don't think I have the Diva subclass unlocked
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #599 on: August 18, 2013, 01:35:39 AM »
Hmmm...
Spoiler:
Then how do you clear/fight the boss event that appears after you meet Flan on the 12th floor?
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