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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #300 on: August 04, 2013, 12:24:14 AM »
I will edit this post as I find stuff to write.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2013, 12:38:34 AM »
Ack before I forget.


Spoiler:
Has anyone determined how long it takes for FOEs to respawn, or if it's a chance everytime you enter/load the game?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2013, 01:02:03 AM »
The Japanese wiki says that FOEs will respawn when you enter the dungeon for the 13th time.
13th time after you defeated the foe, that is.

I rather like the Character Reset option.

I wish whoever you didn't choose in Floor 5 joins sometime later in the game.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #303 on: August 04, 2013, 01:02:46 AM »
There's one mistake one your translation that I noticed last time but I didn't say anything about at first: "Midori's Dream" should be "Green Dream." It's a minor gripe, but it was called Green Dream in the first game and "midori" means "green." ^^;
The Green Dream from Chrono Trigger, yeah

Hooray more every item is a reference!
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #304 on: August 04, 2013, 01:12:55 AM »
So yea, as you all can realized, I'm bad at Katakana.

I'll change all the translations to yours RegalStar. I wasn't sure for Midori's Dream, i was hesitating between green and that, but I didn't know if it was some sort of reference, so I kept it as such.
And yea, I'm trying to find most of the references when I can, but there's just so much of it. And I havent checked the LoT1 item list... whoops
Also, I wish they would've made more items with special abilities in them, like those that adds ailments to attacks, or the one that increases damage dealt when at full HP, not just +X% to a stat

I wish whoever you didn't choose in Floor 5 joins sometime later in the game.
I wouldn't be surprise that we would get both in the end.

神刀「天叢雲剣」-> Save yourself some bytes and just call it Ame no Murakumo. Final Fantasy series made the name pretty recognizable already anyways.
I'll either take that or Sword of Kusanagi, since it's supposedly the most well known name for it

Few modifications I will also do:
静寂の海藻 Seaweed of Silence should be Seaweed of Serenity
りりうむぱんつ will be either Lilium Pants or Lilies Pants
アスラのつるぎ I'll put Asura Blade instead of Sword of Asura
« Last Edit: August 04, 2013, 01:36:21 AM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #305 on: August 04, 2013, 01:43:12 AM »
Ack, just when I thought I was done...

外道の書 -> Forbidden Tablet (LoT1 carryover yet again)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #306 on: August 04, 2013, 06:18:23 AM »
Heart Container? Energy Tank? Booster 0.8? The Bee?

These guys get references from everywhere!
http://pastebin.com/DzbzqF0k - LoT2 reference list. If anyone catches anything, drop me a line.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #307 on: August 04, 2013, 07:45:39 AM »
The Bee
I'm crying tears of happiness.


Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #308 on: August 04, 2013, 02:49:35 PM »
Regarding
Spoiler:
Utsuho
, did they change her self-debuff so that you can guard against it with debuff resistance now?  That's what really killed her for me in LoT1, she's a character who's oriented around staying in and becoming stronger (and her abilities in 2 focus on that even more), and she actually has passable defensive stats but the debuffs kill it.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #309 on: August 04, 2013, 03:57:40 PM »
Regarding translation consistency, I made a quick script to compare the text files from 1 against the string dump for 2. Here's the result.

http://pastebin.com/JBBbjZK7

Interestingly, "Star world bracelet" was "星界の指輪" in LoT1 and seems to be "星界の腕輪" in LoT2 (the 4th character is different. I don't know enough Japanese to say why or what it means)

I expected a lot more results, but it might simply be because I only ran it against the item and spell files. I'll use more when the full game comes out.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #310 on: August 04, 2013, 04:49:15 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet, has anyone else beaten Tenshi on 6F? I don't mean "get her to retreat," I mean "get her HP down to 0." It seemed to me that while Tenshi inevitably retreats when she's killed 10/12 of your party members, but the quality and quantity of her drops goes up the lower HP you manage to get her down to. I managed to do it with a highly specialized team involving Wriggle, Aya, and Orin. I grinded to around L35 for my party.

As a boss, her stat distribution seemed to be high ATK, DEF, MND, but relatively low HP, so PSN and PSN amplification with Wriggle was a very good strategy against her. She also resisted MYS, SPI, DRK, and PHY, so your attackers should target the other stats and have reasonably good penetration. Aya was extremely strong with Peerless Wind God, and characters like Orin, Komachi, and Cirno focused on debuffs exclusively (cool interaction is Aya's SPD up Skill + Regeneration on other party members). This strategy took a great deal of luck -- for example, if Wriggle was killed early on, the fight is nearly impossible -- but Tenshi rewards you with some uncommon materials as well as this drop:

http://i.imgur.com/hlWHHjq.png

Kuilfrayt

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #311 on: August 04, 2013, 04:56:02 PM »
Strangely enough, in LoT1, 指輪 means Ring, but was translated as Bracelet, and in LoT2, 腕輪 means Bangle/Bracelet.

We can adapt a lot of translations to fit better with the theme, or just to something that sounds better (ex. I put 空飛ぶ靴, which could be directly translated as Shoes that makes you fly, or Flying Shoes, to Hermes' Shoes, simply because it sounded better, and everyone here is pretty much familiar with who Hermes is, so it doesn't lose its meaning. While in other stuff, I just change it completly as long as it fits. 樹海のミズビト is an enemy that I've put as Sea of Trees Nue'mon, I have not found anything for ミズビト (mizubito), so I just went and took something that could fit the image (a bird made out of ice and water), and Nue'mon was what came out of it (it was Kingfisher at first, but the myth for it is a bit more ambigious, so I went with that other one instead))

http://www.mediafire.com/?6c252um76h1t8uk
This is the bestiary doc if anyone wants to verify some of the translations. Some notes, 突撃魚 can either be Shark or Swordfish, for lack of better name. I've also not updated the drops with the new names if we had any
There is also one enemy which I don't have any infos on: 大樹の真珠貝, it's between the more pale Ooze and the Ice Crystal. So if anyone that has the data, I would like a screenshot of it to add it to the bestiary
« Last Edit: August 04, 2013, 07:18:31 PM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #312 on: August 04, 2013, 07:44:01 PM »
There is also one enemy which I don't have any infos on: 大樹の真珠貝, it's between the more pale Ooze and the Ice Crystal. So if anyone that has the data, I would like a screenshot of it to add it to the bestiary
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #313 on: August 04, 2013, 07:46:08 PM »
歩く未熟果実 -> "Walking unripe fruit" is closer to its original meaning
水の猩霊 -> Water Gorilla Spirit
水樹の鞭蛙 -> I don't know why you put "Mizuki" for 水樹, but I'm pretty sure that it's a word rather than a name, so water tree or something

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #314 on: August 04, 2013, 10:07:36 PM »
Is it a durian of some sort? There were Durian enemies in EO3 if I recall.

Axel Ryman

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #315 on: August 05, 2013, 09:41:07 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet, has anyone else beaten Tenshi on 6F? I don't mean "get her to retreat," I mean "get her HP down to 0." It seemed to me that while Tenshi inevitably retreats when she's killed 10/12 of your party members, but the quality and quantity of her drops goes up the lower HP you manage to get her down to. I managed to do it with a highly specialized team involving Wriggle, Aya, and Orin. I grinded to around L35 for my party.

As a boss, her stat distribution seemed to be high ATK, DEF, MND, but relatively low HP, so PSN and PSN amplification with Wriggle was a very good strategy against her. She also resisted MYS, SPI, DRK, and PHY, so your attackers should target the other stats and have reasonably good penetration. Aya was extremely strong with Peerless Wind God, and characters like Orin, Komachi, and Cirno focused on debuffs exclusively (cool interaction is Aya's SPD up Skill + Regeneration on other party members). This strategy took a great deal of luck -- for example, if Wriggle was killed early on, the fight is nearly impossible -- but Tenshi rewards you with some uncommon materials as well as this drop:

http://i.imgur.com/hlWHHjq.png

Well I tried killing her instantly just for the sake of it, and I actually got 8 items instead of the 6 listed in the bestiary. The other 2 I got were a Training Manual and a Swiftness Gem.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #316 on: August 06, 2013, 12:27:46 AM »
I saw a video of her fight on youtube and the person beat it legitimately... where was it? Oh, here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhxQHKUSVI

If her drops go up the more you hurt her, that's super cool.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #317 on: August 06, 2013, 01:00:06 AM »
If her drops go up the more you hurt her, that's super cool.

Suddenly this game sounds like some kinda sick twisted ryona rpg.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #318 on: August 06, 2013, 01:02:32 AM »
If your party's average level is less than (level below boss mark + 1.0), you will get bonus items when you defeat that boss.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #319 on: August 06, 2013, 01:04:54 AM »
Gah... I forgot about that, and the ability to level down. Its soooo hard resisting the urge to play this until translation or confirmed translation cancel but full release.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #320 on: August 06, 2013, 01:06:46 AM »
Gah... I forgot about that, and the ability to level down. Its soooo hard resisting the urge to play this until translation or confirmed translation cancel but full release.
I want a full translation and confirmation on how to get the full version characters before I play this game when it's released. -stubborn-
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #321 on: August 06, 2013, 01:07:32 AM »
Suddenly this game sounds like some kinda sick twisted ryona rpg.
Well... when you factor in the context of her running away and sparing your party if you have only 2 living members left, it sounds less terrible >_> <_<

If your party's average level is less than (level below boss mark + 1.0), you will get bonus items when you defeat that boss.
Interesting... especially considering Ghaleon bringing back up the point that you can level down. As well, though, you can always just resist spending the extra EXP, which is even more convenient.

It's cool to have a game-given reason to beat it under certain levels, encouraging strategy more.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #322 on: August 06, 2013, 03:30:35 AM »
Finally beat
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Komachi
after like 2 hours of grinding. It wasn't because she was hitting like a truck, but like mostly because her instant death proc'd so often. I didn't go for perfect resist Youmu, I slapped death resist on Momiji since she can tank hits better. Kogasa, Marisa, and Rumia were invaluable, they were all hitting for 1000+ damage with no buffs. Cirno was useless as all living hell.

I'm really enjoying  this game. Way more than the first one that's for sure.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2013, 03:37:11 AM by Hinacle »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #323 on: August 07, 2013, 03:49:53 AM »
uuu. I can't wait. When is this out again? the next comiket? or Reit-whatever?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #324 on: August 07, 2013, 04:02:48 AM »
Comiket. So it's like 6 more days.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #325 on: August 07, 2013, 04:30:57 AM »
Comiket. So it's like 6 more days.
eeeek.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #326 on: August 07, 2013, 12:41:44 PM »
Comiket. So it's like 6 more days.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #327 on: August 07, 2013, 06:04:29 PM »
Whoa, I didn't realize it was coming out so soon.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #328 on: August 07, 2013, 06:20:10 PM »
I believe that the developer's website says that they'll be at booth U-18b during Comiket. My computer freaks out and gives me a bunch of random symbols on their sites for some reason, so could someone double check that? It might be best to tell N-Forza where and when it is since he seems to be getting a number of orders for the game.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #329 on: August 07, 2013, 06:34:31 PM »
U-18b, yes.

Personally, I'm just going to get a digital copy. I'm hoping it'll show up on melonbooks dl. It's already on dlsite.