Author Topic: Let the Monster Hunters Tri-umph! Lets enjoy great huntingu! #MotK-GuildHall  (Read 74018 times)

trancehime

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I agree on the capabilities of the S&S, given its versatility and its place in almost any hunting situation. However, I rue its low attack power against high-armor monsters and other enemies of its kin, while S&S allows for more hits, you do slightly less DPS than if you had used a LS/GS or something of its ilk. I don't deny that it is strong but I don't see it being OP, in fact it is quite far from it. There is no "op" weapon in MH, each weapon is great in their own ways and it's surprisingly well-balanced. Of course, any weapon can be really good in the hands of a master... :smug:


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SnS: Extreme mobility, good sharpness (If I'm not wrong, the sharpness is actually 1 level higher than what they show for SnS), able to evade most attacks, relatively fast, can both cause impact and slash, pretty good status effects, block if neccessary. Only weakness is low damage output, short range compared to the rest (though the lunge attack has good range) and don't expect the block to do miracles. Able to attack while hiding behind the shield (though you will drop your guard for a split second), and use items while guarding and selecting the item (Do not need to sheathe to use item).

GS: Highest raw damage in-game, okayish mobility, great at cutting tails, charge fer extreme damage and able to block as a last resort. Again, don't expect the block to do miracles, and you lose sharpness per block. Also unable to run, and takes time getting used to, due to slow attack speed. Great weapon to master, but be mindful in multi-play.

LS: High DPS, high damage and sharpness, able to run, good attack speed, spirit guage adds even more damage and sharpness. Mobility is great too. Only weakness is that it is a pure assault weapon, with only rolling for defence (no blocking). Good range too, beware of knocking down in multi-play.

Lance: Good reach, great damage, newly added charge attack and shield bash make it versatile, and the jousting attack (not sure whether it's still in MH3) is great for running slow, large monsters through, though I don't recommend spamming it. Not very good mobility, uses backhops/slides insted of rolling, shield is able to shrug off most attacks. If I'm not wrong, you're able to attack while hiding behind the shield too, like the SnS.

Hammer: Rivals the GS in terms of raw damage, has the potential for highest DPS weapon in-game, capable of causing KOs, and able to move while charging. A great weapon, if you can get pass its rather slow speed and short reach. Also a pure assault weapon with only rolling for defence. Note: The standard triple pound WILL put the hurt on anything you successfully connect the combo with.

This are all my thoughts on the melee weaps in MH3, can't say anything about the SA since I haven't used it yet.  :V
« Last Edit: April 26, 2010, 01:25:43 PM by Vicks »
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I love my lances~<3 The only other weapon I'm really interested in trying out right now is the LS, but I'm a few missions from being able to forge one. Since I doubt I'll be able to play over the week (our Wii is in the family room), I guess I'll have to wait for Thursday or Friday.

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Yes, Lances are special for being the only large weapon with the capability of Attack Guarding - you do a spear poke.

I personally disagree with the SnS guard being good, it is marginally useful at best - you're better off using the SnS' great mobility for dodging attacks completely instead of tanking or soaking up damage you could otherwise have avoided in the first place. The guard shouldn't really be considered as a con, though, since you shouldn't really even be using it at ALL in the first place, and you have crazy mobility with it anyway - they removed dual swords in Tri, which means SnS has no other competitors except maybe the GS.

The LS and Hammer are two weapons, I believe, that are in tough competition for "strongest weapon" spot. It just so happens that these two weapons don't have defensive mechanisms either - funny how that works. Both possess high damage output potential, Hammer has a greater radius while the LS has a greater reach. Both can be extremely destructive in the hands of a player who can easily dodge enemy attacks (I used a Hammer a lot in Unite, for instance, in groups)

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From what I hear Hammer has been scaled down in damage, and they're no longer the top damage dealers. However, they do stamina damage in addition to normal damage, so they're important for fatiguing the monster. Plus, they're still good damage dealers nonetheless.

. There is no "op" weapon in MH, each weapon is great in their own ways and it's surprisingly well-balanced.

Hello Trance, let me introduce you to my friend Greatsword. Greatsword, this is Trance. :V

In all seriousness, there really is no 'op' weapon in the traditional sense of making other weapons obsolete, but some weapons definitely have a steeper learning curve than others.

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I prefer SNS just because I've gotten so used to it. I started out using great swords in MH1 but back then they had no charge slashes.
I hated taking so much time to sheath just so I could run around so I went with the most mobile thing I could get. While the defense isn't prefect it helps to prevent a lot of otherwise stupid moments escailly with the auto block talisman you get at the start of the game.  A lot of newer players I see with larger weapons die often.  I'll get a least one of every weapon so I'll try them out sooner or later.

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It does feel slow to sheathe the lance and run around to either sharpen or pot, but I think the weapon's capabilities themselves more than make for it. I think (dunno for sure) that it's not as powerful as the no-block weapons, but since I'm still getting used to things, it's a lot easier for me to block big hits than to try and doge them. Hopefully, learning how to use the longsword will help me in that aspect so that I can finally get started on bowguns.

MMMm bowguns. Nope never touching one of those.

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I mained HBG in Unite. With the right equipment, soloing dual Rajang is actually practical  :D

And lances are indeed pretty sick in this incarnation.
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I tried the Light and Heavy Bowguns in the demo some time ago, and I found the lack of mobility of the HBG to be too much of a hindrance... I really liked the LBG though! I'm gonna start with the light and work my way to heavy when I get the chance. Maybe I'll make a secondary character for fucking around with bowgun parts...

That brings me to a question. Is there much point to making other characters, aside from maybe wanting to play as a girl or something?
« Last Edit: April 26, 2010, 10:54:05 PM by Jana Coppola »

I still haven't gotten the chance to dick around with guns. I want to so bad, though.

Also, I sold my switchaxe, because I'll obviously never use it again. It's the New Long Sword from Unite. Though I actually liked LS last game because it was a happy cross between SnS and GS. I cannot and will not ever get into using the GS.

Right now, I'm in the middle of making a Baggi, and Gobul set, for absolutely no reason. I don't know what it is with me, but whenever I go online, Monster Materials just randomly drift into my item box without even my noticing. I haven't done any "Grinding" Since I got my peco set.

Though, I'll be grinding Baggi soon, since I FINALLY Found out how to get Leaders Crests. And I thought getting King's Frills were bad enough. I only needed one of those but these I need to find six more of.

^Don't worry about using the heavy guns. I may be pretty early, but customizing Bowguns to have a low weight seems pretty easy when choosing parts. You can even get the Shield ability onto a medium sized bowgun if the rest are lightweight parts.

Edit: No, not really. Your character's name, sex and voice are probably the only things you can't really change.
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Oh, Shield with a Med. Bowgun sounds great. I'll definitely want to try that, at least when I'm switching over from Lance.

I'm still using noob armor (Hunter, I think?) because I'm pouring my grinding into weapon materials. No need for armor if I kill everything first!
(Of course, I know that won't work for very long... But if I can take a Royal Ludroth, finishing the offline 3-star quests can't be that much harder! ...Right?)

I would imagine so, since Offline 3Star rank only goes up to Royal Ludroth.

Offline Star 4 is the equivalent of online star 2. :V
I have no idea what they did for the other seven online star.

Also, God damn I hate "Slay x random minion" Quests.

Quote from: Capcom
* MHTri only puts 12 baggies in the entire area
Ha ha! You can't even slay 20 baggies!
This happened to me in Unite as well, I know they're doing this to me on purpose.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 12:55:15 AM by Zakeri »

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HBG sacrifices that mobility for a shield and awesome firepower. I'm pretty sure that MBGs are pretty close to the same mobility as HBGs, aren't they? I don't remember noting a huge difference between MBG and HBG in that respect.

And when you have Evade + 2 and Evade distance up, you really don't notice that whole  'lack of mobility' thing.  :D
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I love my lances~<3 The only other weapon I'm really interested in trying out right now is the LS, but I'm a few missions from being able to forge one. Since I doubt I'll be able to play over the week (our Wii is in the family room), I guess I'll have to wait for Thursday or Friday.

The LS is a crazy ass weapon :D (In my opinion at least)

Combos:

Full Normal Combo (Starting from sheathed): X + X + A + X +(X+A)

Chop downwards two times, thrust, uppercut and fade slash. Basic combo, though remember that you can cancel this combo anytime with a fade slash. Ok damage, doesn't use spirit guage.

Spirit Combo: R + R + R + R

Slash two times, before slashing twice again, downward chop and finish off with a roundslash dash attack. Sheathes weapon after the roundslash. The most basic spamming there is with decent spirit damage. Remember spirit attacks have infinite sharpness, and therefore do not bounce.

Full Spirit Combo (Starting from sheathed): X + X + A + X + R + A + R + A + R + either R or (X+A)

The main destructive combo, this combo is the defination of DPS. Do note that while this costs way less sprit than the Spirit Combo (due to the alternating of attacks), it takes a very long time to pull off, taking from 7-10 seconds, so only use it when you have a large window of opportunity. Again, feel free to cancel the combo anytime by using the fade slash.



I personally disagree with the SnS guard being good, it is marginally useful at best - you're better off using the SnS' great mobility for dodging attacks completely instead of tanking or soaking up damage you could otherwise have avoided in the first place. The guard shouldn't really be considered as a con, though, since you shouldn't really even be using it at ALL in the first place, and you have crazy mobility with it anyway - they removed dual swords in Tri, which means SnS has no other competitors except maybe the GS.


I know, the block for SnS is pathetic to say the least. I too recommend actually evading than blocking. However, the block to me is there for that slight chance of survival when say, you're conered and can't roll, or a certain attack is unevadable without evasion skills.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 02:56:38 AM by Vicks »
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Very want. Well, I'm still on Barroth, so Jhen is ages away... But a guy can dream, right~?

Anyway, I'll see if I can actually remember the combos by Thursday/Friday... If I can do alright with the last 3-star offline quests, I'll jump online and try to whip through the 1 and 2 star quests fairly quickly.

I mostly am wearing Barroth armor. My dang brother is farming Rathalos in offline with the cataclysm GS. Jhezzz he never takes a break.

The image of Orin trying to sign up as one of the cats that brings you back to camp when you faint just popped into my head.
I wanted to share that with everyone.

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Yeah, imagine where you get dumped at when you faint.

Hint: It's not base camp. It's also warm. Very warm.
I am a thinker. I cast light on various concepts. I can unveil the world's dark secrets if I so please. And yet, there is a single enigma that even I cannot clarify.  - Renko Usami

I am a dreamer. I wander through countless dreams. If I will, I can even walk the roads of the land of illusion. And yet, there is a single vision that even I cannot grasp. - Maribel Han

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Hello Trance, let me introduce you to my friend Greatsword. Greatsword, this is Trance. :V

You kidding? My entire HR4 to HR8 in Unite (JPN) was me using a GS ??? :V

Oh, Shield with a Med. Bowgun sounds great. I'll definitely want to try that, at least when I'm switching over from Lance.

I'm still using noob armor (Hunter, I think?) because I'm pouring my grinding into weapon materials. No need for armor if I kill everything first!
(Of course, I know that won't work for very long... But if I can take a Royal Ludroth, finishing the offline 3-star quests can't be that much harder! ...Right?)

Upgrading armor is pretty important for one reason: decorations/jewels/shinies. You need those to give yourself super duper awesome magickal powers of doom.


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Qurupeco:

Bird Wyvern with unique plumage. Well known for using their thoracic vocal organs to imitate other monster's calls, first summoning them, then using the distraction to flee. Spits a dangerous combustible body fluid.

Qurupesco:

Mafia player with unique avatar. Well known for using their behavioral breadcrumbs to imitate other mafia roles, first routing scum, then using the distraction to escape lynch. Spits a dangerous combustible ad hominid.

This just will not leave my head.

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Actually, I figured out slots kind of quickly. Guess what I used my set's 5 for? Hint: They were all the same, and they were all the opposite of the defense jewel.

Funny you should mention that, Zakeri. I'm supposed to go back to hunting their strange beaks...

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On an completely unrelated note, who here is waiting for MHF3? :D
I am a thinker. I cast light on various concepts. I can unveil the world's dark secrets if I so please. And yet, there is a single enigma that even I cannot clarify.  - Renko Usami

I am a dreamer. I wander through countless dreams. If I will, I can even walk the roads of the land of illusion. And yet, there is a single vision that even I cannot grasp. - Maribel Han

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Just got the game, getting to grips with the single-player. A few questions to start off with: what do I do with all the junk I get from monsters, like scales, hides, dung and everything? I'm just storing them, but I haven't found much use for them as of now, apart from those in the book of combos.

Also how far in the game do you start crafting your own equipment?

Just got the game, getting to grips with the single-player. A few questions to start off with: what do I do with all the junk I get from monsters, like scales, hides, dung and everything? I'm just storing them, but I haven't found much use for them as of now, apart from those in the book of combos.

Also how far in the game do you start crafting your own equipment?

All the Junk you get off monsters is for crafting armor, weapons, and other things.
You can start crafting right away. Do more hunts and get junk so you can unlock the ability to craft stuff.
 

Just got the game, getting to grips with the single-player. A few questions to start off with: what do I do with all the junk I get from monsters, like scales, hides, dung and everything? I'm just storing them, but I haven't found much use for them as of now, apart from those in the book of combos.

Also how far in the game do you start crafting your own equipment?

Go into your item box
Click "Combine" Option on the list
Try everything.

Don't worry, it doesn't take long. They highlight all of the possible options for you and dark out the ones you can't combine. Just know that everything you can use on the field can be made from random dropped parts., and that everything has a use.

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Look at this armor. It is such cool armor I am hunting Royal Ludroths in it without dying. You totally dig this armor of mine. I know you do.

Actually, I'm thinking that I should really do something about this little armor issue of mine. Rather than start hunting for every armor available to me, I'm gonna browse around... I like the Qurupeco set, and the Bnahabra armor looks cool too, although I'm not sure how I'm gonna deal without my Hunter Armor's auto-mapping. :ohdear:

Also, I think I'm gonna see if anyone notices if I take the Wii from the family room to my room. My parents are always there to watch TV, but the Wii is supposed to be there because of the wide space for the more physically-intensive games...

I've personally never need a map for an area more than twice.
You'll learn to cope with it.

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On an completely unrelated note, who here is waiting for MHF3? :D

OH MY GOD I WANT

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I am a thinker. I cast light on various concepts. I can unveil the world's dark secrets if I so please. And yet, there is a single enigma that even I cannot clarify.  - Renko Usami

I am a dreamer. I wander through countless dreams. If I will, I can even walk the roads of the land of illusion. And yet, there is a single vision that even I cannot grasp. - Maribel Han