Gensokyo Holy War Mafia (Game Over)

[Polaris]

##Unvote

actually I changed my mind, I have a new scumpick in mind ^_^

give me some time to get my thoughts in order.

[WHMZakeri]

^As fun an ending as that is, a gentleman leaves no puzzle unsolved.

Barring Scum shooting scum, Polaris has to be either town or ITP. His claimed role fits with his unjustified pushing of Serela, and collaborates with pretty much everything else.
Basically, I'm not interested in his lynch unless we manage to lynch scum today and the game is still going.

That said, It also basically proves Edible, which in turn makes my cop clear on him redundant

This basically leaves to in my mind, Dormio and maybe BT as choices for the last scum, and Dormio is somehow the least likely of the two.

Edit: Wait, what?
I'm not exactly privvy to Shadoweh's mindset. I wasn't roleblocked on night 2, but this could mean a number of things - that it didn't go through due to kill, that somebody besides me was roleblocked, that she was the killer for that night (We don't know if scum had any other roles or not, and it said in her flip that she can't block and kill at the same time.)

The wording the Kilga uses is along the lines of innocent and guilty. I just change it to town and scum because I've been unjustly modkilled for fake-PM quoting when I meant to call it a paraphrasing.

[Polaris]

Well I want to sleep so I will update you on my epiphany in the morning.

[WHMZakeri]

Edit: I forgot about Raikaria's previous tracking results, so strike Dormio off.

[BT]

Does it specify what ITPs come back as?

Also the thing is, the last scum role is likely an information role and if you're NotScum it's kind of hard to see scum not using the RB on you.

[WHMZakeri]

It doesn't actually. I probably should have asked earlier.

It basically comes down to my word versus circumstantial evidence. I'm aware that I'm not on the winning side, but I did get a result night 2 which means I could not have been roleblocked.

[Raikaria]

Zakeri, Raikaria.  Results?

No-one visited Zakeri, I am now effectivly a VT.

Re-reading what happened, just moved back to Uni.

[Raikaria]

Rai, why'd you use the Tracker on Shadoweh N1?

Simple, Shadoweh was defending Zakeri heavily.

I thought Zakeri was scum, especially after IHNN's flip.

I knew Zakeri wouldn't perform a Nightkill, he'd leave it to the other scums.

I guessed Shadoweh, who visited Serela.

Re-read ongoing.

[Raikaria]

Also like I brought up D2, Shadoweh made a statement something along the lines of 'If you threaten me BT you'll find a bullet in your head'

[Raikaria]

I should also point out that the doc claim suggests that BT was poisoned N1. Which means BT is clear. There is no Doc Counter-claim. There is no roleblocker claim, and it was Shadoweh who used ##Pay, so she couldn't roleblock. Alternatively the kill on BT was docced in the first place with a Janitor move.

This means there is only one person left in this town who isn't clear.

So:

I'm town
Zakeri is un CC'ed Cop
Edibibl is Un-CC'ed Doc, and cleared by Zak
Dormio is very unlikely scum [It would mean Shadoweh did the N2 kill instead of roleblocking]
BT was protected N1, meaning he was scum target

This leaves only one person.

## Vote: Polaris

[Raikaria]

If it's not Polaris then it's Dormio and he just took no action N2.

Actually with the Vig claim I'm a moron, Shadoweh's unexplained death!

##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio

[Raikaria]

Either way it's pretty much autowin for town at this point.

[Kilgamayan]

Call to Worship

Dormio (1): Raikaria
Zakeri (1): Dormio

No vote cast (4): Edible, Polaris, BT, Zakeri

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. You have under 60 hours remaining.

Sorry for not updating the OP playerlist, I updated the game while at the bowling alley yesterday. Bowling > Mafia, trufax. Shit's been fixed now, though.

[Edible]

I slept on it.

Ultimately, the only piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit is Zak.

Dormio being scum would require a tremendous amount of nonsense to have occured.  Same with Polaris.  I can't buy all the coincidences and risks scum would have had to take for either of these two to be scum.

Further, I simply can't buy that scum would have used a poison shot N1 instead of something with far more N1 use like a janitor shot.  It's even harder to buy why Shadoweh wouldn't have roleblocked a claimed cop.

Finally, the cop role Zakeri has claimed does not mesh with what we know of the setup.

In the unlikely event that Zakeri is not scum, BT basically has to be.

Sorry man.

##vote Zakeri

[Edible]

But just in case.

@Mod: Will a majority vote of No Lynch grant the opposite faction an extra kill?

[Kilgamayan]

Yes.

[Edible]

Thanks.

So much for that idea.  I guess it wouldn't have benefited us much anyway.

[Polaris]

Maybe.................................... Raikaria is scum `_`

[Polaris]

^ this is a serious thing that I am actually considering.

[Edible]

Not possible.

In addition to looking townie as f*** we know there's a tracker-esque role in the game due to serela's role.

[Edible]

Well, if you have a good case for him I'd love to hear it <3

[Edible]

ahahaha I censored fuck again.

Too much time on gamefaqs.

[Polaris]

1. Serela's role could be a red herring, and it's possible scum actually has a voyeur role that made it a safe claim. Raikaria was way too eager to claim on D3 despite not giving us much to work with, which seems like his objective was less to clear Dormio and more to get his role out there to get himself cleared early on.

2. Not super strong, but I would think Shadoweh would use her roleblock and have final scum X ##Pay Serela unless there is a role that you'd want to use over the roleblock as scum?

3. Raikaria trackwatching Dormio is since a. Dormio claimed VT and b. Zak wouldn't have copped Dormio anyway, so it looks more like a poorly thought-out lie.

4. Raikaria is literally the only person to believe Serela's vig claim, which is fishy. Not to mention, iirc, he arbitrarily drops Serela D1. Whatever Raikaria was trying to do with Shadoweh sort of disappeared somewhere during D2,

N1, I tracked Shadoweh, after he defended Zakeri so hard, thinking Zakeri wouldn't NK with al the suspicion, but Shadoweh might. He visisted Serela, which was clearly for the ##Pay command now. The only thing that could have be done to fit that action was ##Poison, so i assume Serela's claim was legitimate. Unless Shadoweh seriously roleblocked Serela.

5. Raikaria's use of "##Poison" looks weird here because it's not a specific command written in Serela's role pm, so it's possible that Raikaria said it like that because Serela used "##Poison" as his night action in the scum QT.

also, conveniently, if Raikaria is scum then we have one shinto, one buddhist, and one taoist scum. `_` funny how that works out.

hurray for conspiracy theories.

[Polaris]

well at least conspiracy theories have some entertainment value

[BT]

1. Serela's role could be a red herring, and it's possible scum actually has a voyeur role that made it a safe claim. Raikaria was way too eager to claim on D3 despite not giving us much to work with, which seems like his objective was less to clear Dormio and more to get his role out there to get himself cleared early on.

First part is extremely meh and something mods generally don't do. Second part - eh, dunno.

2. Not super strong, but I would think Shadoweh would use her roleblock and have final scum X ##Pay Serela unless there is a role that you'd want to use over the roleblock as scum?

An information role.

3. Raikaria trackwatching Dormio is since a. Dormio claimed VT and b. Zak wouldn't have copped Dormio anyway, so it looks more like a poorly thought-out lie.

He suspected Dormio (I think? After the DormiovsSerela D2 this is admittedly meh) and eh.

4. Raikaria is literally the only person to believe Serela's vig claim, which is fishy. Not to mention, iirc, he arbitrarily drops Serela D1. Whatever Raikaria was trying to do with Shadoweh sort of disappeared somewhere during D2,

I did not go over this yet but if this is true + some of the things you pointed out so far it just points to a Rai lynch being The Move if Zak is town.

5. Raikaria's use of "##Poison" looks weird here because it's not a specific command written in Serela's role pm, so it's possible that Raikaria said it like that because Serela used "##Poison" as his night action in the scum QT.

`_`

[BT]

It's still really odd that no one got roleblocked over the course of the game though (barring dead folks).

!

Polly, who'd you target last night?

[BT]

Oh right Edible. Nevermind that then.

[Polaris]

I don't think either of the VTs are lying so I'm pretty sure one of the powerroles are. I still think Zak and Edible cross-clear each other so Raikaria is left :L

[BT]

Town in bolded not-green for Dormio-san, whenever he decides to look at the thread.


DAY ONE


Edible (2): Affinity, Pesco
Shadoweh (1): Dormio
Schezo (2): Edible, Polaris
BT (2): IHNN, NekoNekoRex
Affinity (1): Serela
Serela (2): Schezo, BT
Pesco (1): Shadoweh
Polaris (1): Raikaria

Not Voting (1): Zakeri


NekoNekoRex (3): Edible, IHNN, Pesco
Serela (3): NekoNekoRex, Raikaria, Polaris
Schezo (1): Zakeri
Zakeri (1): Schezo
Raikaria (4): BT, Dormio, Serela, Affinity
I have no name (1): Shadoweh
Not Voting (0)


Serela (4): Raitaki, Polaris, Schezo, IHNN
Raikaria (3): BT, Dormio, Affinity
I have no name (3): Shadoweh, Edible, Zakeri
Affinity (1): Serela
Polaris (1): Raikaria
Zakeri (1): Pesco
Not Voting (0)


Serela (2): Polaris, BT
Raikaria (1): Affinity
I have no name (5): Shadoweh, Edible, Zakeri, Schez, Dormio
Zakeri (4): Pesco,  Raikaria, Serela, IHNN
Not Voting (1): Raitaki


Serela (1): BT
Raikaria (1): Affinity
I have no name (7): Shadoweh, Edible, Zakeri, Schezo, Dormio, Polaris, Raitaki
Zakeri (4): Pesco,  Raikaria, Serela, IHNN
Not Voting (0)


DAY TWO


Pesco (1): Zakeri
Dormio (1): Edible
Serela (2): Polaris, BT
Polaris (1): Serela
Zakeri (3): Dormio, Pesco, Shadoweh
Shadoweh (1): Raikaria

Not voting (3): Raitaki, Schezo, Lecithul


Pesco (1): Zakeri
Dormio (2): Edible, Schezo
Serela (2): Polaris, BT
Zakeri (4): Dormio, Pesco, Shadoweh, Serela
Edibl (1): Raikaria

Not voting (2): Raitaki, Lecithul


Pesco (1): Zakeri
Dormio (3): Edible, Schezo, Raitaki
Serela (2): Polaris, BT
Zakeri (5): Dormio, Pesco, Shadoweh, Serela, Raikaria

Not voting (1): Lecithul


Pesco (2): Zakeri, Serela
Dormio (4): Edible, Schezo, Raitaki, Raikaria
Serela (4): Polaris, Lecithul, BT, Pesco
Zakeri (1): Dormio
Polaris (1): Shadoweh


Dormio (3): Raitaki, Serela, Lecithul
Serela (7): Polaris, BT, Pesco, Dormio, Zakeri, Raikaria, Schezo
Polaris (1): Shadoweh

Not voting (1): Edible


DAY THREE


Lecithul (1): Polaris
Dormio (1): Raitaki
Raitaki (2): BT, Dormio
Zakeri (1): Raikaria


Dormio (1): Raitaki
Raitaki (3): BT, Dormio, Raikaria
Polaris (1): Zakeri


Dormio (1): Raitaki
Raitaki (4): BT, Dormio, Raikaria, Schezo
Polaris (1): Zakeri

No vote cast (3): Edible, Lecithul, Polaris


Raitaki (5): BT, Dormio, Raikaria, Schezo, Raitaki
Polaris (1): Zakeri


Find All + Replace With + Replace All I fucking love you. Zak and Rai are in orange because this is what I want to see right now.

[Polaris]

Zakeri (5): Dormio, Pesco, Shadoweh, Serela, Raikaria

`_`

totes fantastic scum coordination right here