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Xenomic:
Hmm. I may have to do yet another run of the game myself, as much as I'd rather not. T-T
Shinki would've been TOO good to keep anyways, I feel. For the record, don't know if you know, but during the segments you had her, if she were to die at all in any fight, it's an instant game over too. Yup, Shinki this entire time was basically Banon, just infinitely more powerful. ^^;
The entire area was playable, just...it was TOO big (the biggest area in the game) and could potentially take up to 2 hours or so just to explore the entire place IIRC, since it was SUPER easy to get lost. And as it was, there wasn't even anything of note to find there. No enemies, no items, etc. The bosses that WOULD have been there were all dummied out, and were just relegated to the flashbacks.
There wasn't any bugs with it or anything? That's the big issue I'm worried about. Level 50 is about what I was hoping the player would be anyways, I think when I got there I was around that level (and of note, I did all of the last few segments of the game, from the last Skill Shop in Pandaemonium to endgame without any skill upgrades, so I was doing about 1000-1500 or so with my strongest non-Yuuka attacks, so I could make sure they WERE doable if you never found the hidden skill shop in the Void).
Yeah, the game doesn't do an exceptionally good job of explaining the fragments in early game is the main problem. They were originally normal regular humans (bar Fate who still had her farsight abilities, albeit SUPER weak at that time but still powerful of course) and Chaos with her super strength, but the game never talks about either of them there. If by the temple you mean the one that you see everyone at a lot, that's just the temple that Fate is generally at (since she's confined to that most of the time as she stated in one flashback). The "sequel" was going to be just the OCs with no references or anything from other sources (i.e. nothing from Touhou, Final Fantasy, etc.) and it being its own thing, so it would've explored them a lot more. The problem though is how to handle such a game, as it's hard to do a game with just Hope as the main protag as she's normally a big pacifist, and isn't known for her offensive capabilities at all...
Tom:
Oh didn't know about the gameover thing, I thought the instant gameover only applied to the 3 way party split sequence (the fort condor style area). Maybe she could be nerfed after the story sequence (like Byakuren/Suwako), regardless she still wouldn't be as OP as Hope once you get the move Extinction and Chaos' skillset
As for Hope being a pacifist and all you might be able to do something like team with Fate, Chaos or Gloom from early on? Or something similar to Undertale where battles are based on dialogue/actions and more like puzzles you have to "solve".
Xenomic:
Extinction is very powerful, aye, though it IS very risky and resource consuming as well I think. I could be wrong, it might be GROSSLY overpowered in fact. I actually never used Chaos's skillset since I like using Hope's initial skillset the most (a few are like that too that I know that's played the game. Nobody ever uses Gloom's skillset like ever lol...poor Gloom).
Well, there's a little thing with doing a starting story with them that would actually prevent such a thing, so it wouldn't be that simple sadly. Maybe in later installments if there were any, it'd be MUCH easier to do, but not in the first one at all. I've heard of people suggesting Undertale as a thing that it could be based upon, but I dunno if I'd want to go that route either honestly. It's a very hard decision when starting a game like this, hue. At least with THIS game, it all came to me from one single dream years and years ago, when I was thinking of what all cultural mythological stuff was in Touhou, and realized there really wasn't anything from Greek, and then immediately came to think about Pandora's Box in Gensokyo, and the rest is history. ^^;
So if I may ask, here's some questions for ya since you finished the game!
1) What part of the game did you like/dislike the most?
2) Any boss(es) that you found to be the most easy/difficult? Superbosses are separate from this, of course, but I'd like to hear about them too, assuming you've fought them all.
3) Any favorite/hate character (in terms of story and in terms of playability)?
4) Any favorite/hated dungeon(s)?
5) Anything you would think should have been different (other than missing graphics, of course, since I don't have anyone to do the graphics for the two characters that are missing them...)?
6) Any favorite/hated part of the story?
7) Any favorite/hated characters out of the OCs (that are not Touhou characters)?
8) Favorite party configuration(s)?
I'm sure I could've came up with more questions, but it's hard for me to do that too! T-T
Tom:
Eirin could well be Artemis from Greek Mythology since she uses a silver bow and is related to the moon.
I'm not sure how good basing the game off Undertale would be but the combat concept could work.
1) I really liked the Youkai Mountain and Makai partd, the one area I didn't like was Cave to Makai because it was too long and confusing
2) Kotohime was the easiest boss and was annihilated after every battle. Alice was probably the hardest boss once she got access to dolls
3) Out of the Touhou cast best would probably be Marisa and worst Tenshi (because you fight her way too many times)
4) Best would be Reimaden Mansion, puzzle was pretty interesting, worst is cave to Makai or passage underground (sealed off area)
5) Alot of the later games indoor rooms felt too big.
Pandaemonium has some dead ending corridors in the upstairs floor and some rooms that are too big.
6) I liked Youkai Mountain and I didn't like Poltergeist Mansion (this could just be because I lost demon charm there...)
7) Out of the OC my favorite would be Fate and didn't have one I specifically disliked
8) [Reimu, Sanae, Suwako, Yuuka/Marisa] until Poltergeist Mansion, then [Sanae, Suwako, Yuuka/Marisa, Koishi] until you get Hope, then [Reimu/Sanae, Hope, Suwako, Yuuka/Marisa]. If all characters were available I'd be using [Shinki, Hope, Chaos, Kanako] (Chaos is more useful when she gets her own turn instead of via Hope since you don't waste a turn to switch movesets)
Xenomic:
That is very true, I forgot about that. May not be as clear cut as say Pandora, but yeah. You know what I mean nonetheless I think. ^^;
But yeah, did you fight any of the superbosses (outside of Hakurei Shrine, Youkai Mountain, Remains of Hells, and inside Silent Shrine and The Void)? o.o?
1) Oh? What exactly about both parts did you like (and what part of Makai? You mean the entirety of the Makai segment? I assume because the story actually felt like a story and not all over the place. I can understand Cave to Makai, it does drag on a bit TOO long, but it's meant to be the intermediary between the two points of the game, so that's kinda why it's the way it is, even with its own unique music~).
2) Oh right...forgot Kotohime lol. I'm assuming you mean the non-joke fights with her and the actual fights? Surprised to hear Alice remains the hardest boss, figured there'd be others that'd be tougher than her, but I do think she's one of the more challenging ones for sure.
3) Ah, Tenshi. I think she's fought a total of 9-11 times total in the game, excluding repeat fights like in Hollowed Caverns? She's a tenacious one, that one. What makes you like Marisa the most, if I may ask?
4) I tried really, REALLY hard to get that puzzle to work. I know it's also really confusing too, especially if you're going for all the rewards, but I'd like to think that it turned out decently enough? Utilizing those Fire Emblem zodiac icons wasn't easy either. Don't know what you mean by the passage underground though?
5) Care to explain? Like which indoor rooms? For buildings? Because I can agree that while I tried my best to make them not that big, some are still pretty big (and I never fully remapped Pandaemonium simply because it was a hassle to even deal with...).
6) N/A
7) Oho? Care to explain? Curious to hear why that is~
8) Interesting, someone actually using Suwako (and Sanae too. Before nobody used either, mostly because both were pretty bad). Suwako isn't TOO broken, is she? I know she's got some terribly strong stuff, but I'm hoping that she isn't overly powerful. Finding balance is really hard (same with Extinction and Chaos's skillset, are those too broken/good?).