Author Topic: DEFCON Mafia (Night 2, DEFCON 2)  (Read 57129 times)

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #120 on: March 14, 2013, 08:56:33 PM »
if scum wanted to snag the roleblocker then i would assume shadoweh is non-maf if she successfully pulled cop

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #121 on: March 14, 2013, 09:04:19 PM »
Do you have any reasons other than Dan shifting his vote for voting for Dan rather than BT?
Since new page just going to put this there because I'm really curious about this.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #122 on: March 14, 2013, 09:08:10 PM »
Kind of strange it took you three whole posts, and a post from Raikaria herself, to come to the conclusion I should be voted, considering you had your reasoning in your first post. Feeling indecisive?
Nice, but no. I wanted Zak's reply first.

Your vote is very much joke-level despite being aware of the game progressing only a sentence later. What's up with that, lad?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #123 on: March 14, 2013, 09:09:40 PM »
Dormio, where do you lean towards right now? A gut feeling will suffice.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #124 on: March 14, 2013, 09:11:10 PM »
HW I pretty much agree with you on Raikaria but we already got *a reply*. I want to see what he produces now on his own while I poke at other things.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #125 on: March 14, 2013, 09:11:33 PM »
scumteam:
one (1) of NNR / Raikaria
drrawr
Alice BRKatroid

what do i win

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #126 on: March 14, 2013, 09:12:42 PM »
Nuclear warheads.

Are those by order?

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #127 on: March 14, 2013, 09:16:57 PM »
not really I just posted random guesses so I could point to them postgame if I'm right

I think rawr's posts are scum pseudocontribution though. Don't have anything on NNR for real but want him to elaborate on his Raikaria vote more.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #128 on: March 14, 2013, 09:24:50 PM »
A thought: if Dormio and NNR can use nukes once we reach DEFCON 1, then they're either very crafty scum or confirmed non-maf.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #129 on: March 14, 2013, 09:27:50 PM »
Since new page just going to put this there because I'm really curious about this.

Not really at this stage of the game. Not enough has happened for me to have anything much else to go on. At least BT getting quickly off, without a counter-wagon forming, makes me think he wasn't attempting to just wagonshove.

As for you thinking I'm double-bluffing that early in the game, why would I want to draw attention to myself before the game even starts proper?


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2013, 09:30:15 PM »
Raikaria: how is placing a second vote out of 7 on somebody an attempt to quickwagon them?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #131 on: March 14, 2013, 09:35:10 PM »
Raikaria: how is placing a second vote out of 7 on somebody an attempt to quickwagon them?

Someone's got to start the wagon moving, and the vote went up to 3/7 almost immediately afterwards. I had yet to say anything at DEFCON 3, and yet I was 3/7 to lynch. To me, that looks like an attempt to start a quickwagon before I can get a word in edgeways.

Assuming Dan was scum, there's 2 more scum votes to add [4/7] and NK would probobly jump on too [5/7]. All it would require is two more townies to have jumped on and scum could have quickhammered.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »
Raikaria: how is placing a second vote out of 7 on somebody an attempt to quickwagon them?
Because the vote is on him, and Raikaria is super town kawaii which means everyone is scum out to get him.

Also, I would like to bet a Cherry Lime-aid Soda that at least one of the people on your bucket list are town.

In any case, I'm not convinced that the actual scum have taken more than one step forward in this discussion yet.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2013, 09:44:13 PM »
if scum wanted to snag the roleblocker then i would assume shadoweh is non-maf if she successfully pulled cop
Eh, even if she did, we can't assume this. We don't know if all the treason claims are true.

Raikaria: An early day quickhammer really isn't realistic when you consider the consequences of... hammering at the beginning of the day.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2013, 09:49:41 PM »
Raikaria is super town kawaii
I'm leaning town too due to this quickhammer talk but why the ultra strong read here? Why the confidence, I mean.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2013, 09:52:34 PM »
Dormio, where do you lean towards right now? A gut feeling will suffice.
Raikaria bad.
Waiting for PX.
Shadoweh scum.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2013, 09:53:40 PM »
so scum has Roleblocker/Tracker/? I guess. where is serela.

imo maf were less likely to contest the plan since it draws attention to them if they look like they're going against something pro-town for bad reasons. Raikaria said literally nothing about the role draft and just spammed. don't really like his reaction to being voted either since he was obviously in no danger of being quicklynched, feels forced
IHNN is town tho

NNR, is Raikaria scum?
I don't have any hard scumreads yet, but Raikaria is the closest I can find for that at the moment.  His responses so far have been pretty lackluster. If my vote were a prod for reactions, then he would have failed :V
The game is still very early in, so it's hard to say where people stand. All the rolespec/scumspec really clogs up the pipes as well.

Speaking of which, Raikaria, it's silly to assume that scum are going to force a quickhammer on D1, it's more or less suicide with everyone potentially being a vig.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2013, 10:05:56 PM »
so scum has Roleblocker/Tracker/? I guess. where is serela.

imo maf were less likely to contest the plan since it draws attention to them if they look like they're going against something pro-town for bad reasons. Raikaria said literally nothing about the role draft and just spammed. don't really like his reaction to being voted either since he was obviously in no danger of being quicklynched, feels forced
IHNN is town tho

NNR, is Raikaria scum?

Changed my mind,

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2013, 10:12:12 PM »
I'm leaning town too due to this quickhammer talk but why the ultra strong read here? Why the confidence, I mean.

"One must always speak with confidence if they want others to listen." is what I'd like to say, but really I was actually just saying that as sarcastically as possible to make fun of his presumed line of logic.

But yeah, you're right in that the quickhammer talk isn't something I'd think scum would pull.

Edit: Hey Dan. mind using more words than that? We'd appreciate it.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2013, 10:12:58 PM »
no.

Don't lynch me.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2013, 10:53:37 PM »
Changed my mind,

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Can you elaborate on what that you quoted made you change your mind?


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2013, 10:56:24 PM »
And yes I am fully aware it has already been asked, however extra pressure is the intention.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2013, 10:56:52 PM »
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Raikaria's latest response isn't GOOD but it makes me think his earlier posts weren't from a scum mindset. NNR saying "Raikaria's responses have been lackluster" without going in-depth makes me think he's just clinging onto a weak vote for the sake of voting.

no.
Except your vote sucks and is an example of when wordless votes aren't a good idea. Really, what do you expect me to respond with at this stage of the game? There's nothing useful to say to you and you're not convincing anybody to vote me.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2013, 11:12:55 PM »
Zak, what do you think of Serela?

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2013, 11:22:13 PM »
##Unvote: PX
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Edit: Serela?
I didn't really notice he was in the game yet.
Reread shows that I have no reason to care.

Although, his claim of being missing for the first half of day one when he meant to say the first half of Defcon3 reminds me: It's not until defcon 4 that Scum get their NK, and days =! defcon status, correct? Wouldn't it be better for town to quicklynch (or, at the very least keep it to 48 hours deadline)?

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2013, 11:27:04 PM »
afaik DEFCON 2 (not 4, you're counting forwards instead of backwards) starts after we lynch in DEFCON3 and there's been a night phase. then after we lynch that day and night happens it stays DEFCON 1 for the rest of the game

conq can correct me if I'm mistaken

I think as far as non-posters go Serela is worse than PX since he literally just said "I'm okay with this plan" and did nothing else at all

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #146 on: March 15, 2013, 12:27:16 AM »
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Raikaria's latest response isn't GOOD but it makes me think his earlier posts weren't from a scum mindset. NNR saying "Raikaria's responses have been lackluster" without going in-depth makes me think he's just clinging onto a weak vote for the sake of voting.
Except Raikaria's earlier posts were pregame nonsense? I don't know where you're getting a scumread from that DEFCON 4 stuff myself.

If I'm voting for the sake of voting, and can't catch any other scumreads, what's the solution to this no-win situation for me?

This game hasn't been my best so far anyway. I didn't join and expect to get shafted into picking Roleblocker, which is probably the least useful role for town (and in fact is only a great anti-town role) in any case, and I'm not really happy that half of these posts have been speculation over who's causing treason and how scum can benefit from whatever rolepicks they decided to get/steal.

In fact:
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if scum wanted to snag the roleblocker then i would assume shadoweh is non-maf if she successfully pulled cop
Quit this line of thinking right now. Did you ever consider Shadoweh could be scum to begin with? These silly assumptions don't factor in that you never knew who scum were to begin with, and your forced picks mean any three people you assigned a role could be scum.

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As for you thinking I'm double-bluffing that early in the game, why would I want to draw attention to myself before the game even starts proper?
I don't even know what you mean by this but it's making my head hurt trying to comprehend it.

no.
Of all the pointless white noise I'm sifting through to find a nonexistent scum read here, your surprisingly quiet post actually pisses me off the most. Put down a reason on your vote and respond to questions in the thread, or else it makes you look like an ass. A lazy one at that.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #147 on: March 15, 2013, 12:33:36 AM »
These silly assumptions don't factor in that you never knew who scum were to begin with
scumslip imho

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #148 on: March 15, 2013, 12:46:20 AM »
scumslip imho
Explain? I am steadily losing patience here and you probably are aware my patience for Mafia games was not high to begin with. Despite the past... I dunno... month's effort on the contrary?

It's surprising how easily this game is ticking me off. Must be an MotK thing.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #149 on: March 15, 2013, 12:51:13 AM »
ok: NNR you have a huge wall of text complaining about me. am i scum, a null read or what