Author Topic: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS (Read 92058 times)

Garlyle · « **Reply #90 on:** March 12, 2013, 08:00:29 PM »

Quote from: Minch on March 12, 2013, 07:11:16 PM

Miasma cave? Damn, I guess it's time to get a move on and fight some lizards then.

You don't have to fight the lizards to get through.

There's two tricks to the place - the first is that it's only the center room that has the poison; if you move through it fast enough (as in in fewer than 10 steps) you'll be fine. The second is

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Minch · « **Reply #91 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:12:20 AM »

I think I may hit some kind of road block, once you get the night shard, what happens if you sold it accidentally? Could it come back or is that lost forever?

theshirn · « **Reply #92 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:46:53 AM »

Quote from: Minch on March 13, 2013, 03:12:20 AM

I think I may hit some kind of road block, once you get the night shard, what happens if you sold it accidentally? Could it come back or is that lost forever?

Come back and harvest the spot the next day.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #93 on:** March 14, 2013, 06:37:17 PM »

Man, so yesterday I completely blew through the fourth stratum. Lots of fun was had.

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After a close tizzy with the stratum boss, lots of story, some quests, and a cursory look at the (gorgeous as always) fifth stratum, I realized I had been playing non-stop for six hours and decided I should take a break. x_x

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #94 on:** March 14, 2013, 07:17:02 PM »

I finally killed a Cutter. :V Maybe I stand a chance against the first boss now!

Minch · « **Reply #95 on:** March 15, 2013, 05:02:30 AM »

I've never did like bugs all that much, but after seeing those FOEs in the Misty Forest, I'm just outright terrified of them.

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #96 on:** March 16, 2013, 07:04:51 AM »

Quote from: Minch on March 15, 2013, 05:02:30 AM

I've never did like bugs all that much, but after seeing those FOEs in the Misty Forest, I'm just outright terrified of them.

Forget those, the Deathstalkers are annoying as hell to deal with. Damn paralysis...

Cyclone · « **Reply #97 on:** March 16, 2013, 11:58:51 PM »

My Sniper subclass buchi is absolutely hilarious. Lock On for (seemingly) 100% crit chance, Charge to give me a 2x damage multiplier on my next move, and finally max level Squall Volley. It's even better when my medic/arcanist's leg binding circle procs for guaranteed hits. 3-4k damage in a single move is very satisfying.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #98 on:** March 17, 2013, 12:22:15 AM »

Whoo-hoo! After an intense 37 turn battle, the final boss has been defeated! Guild Maribel is now da best in da west! 8D

...But I can only sit on that magnanimous title for so long. The postgame awaits...! I wonder what my revised team should be like...well, I won't be doing that until my team hits level 60 so I can get the best retirement bonuses (level 57 right now).

Cyclone · « **Reply #99 on:** March 17, 2013, 04:27:18 AM »

See, now I feel bad. I've been abusing the hell out of +exp food and the +exp burst. I'm 62 and still haven't beaten the game.

Garlyle · « **Reply #100 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:35:01 AM »

Quote from: Cyclone on March 17, 2013, 04:27:18 AM

See, now I feel bad. I've been abusing the hell out of +exp food and the +exp burst. I'm 62 and still haven't beaten the game.

Depending on your party you may need to be simply due to the way the final boss works.

I probably could've taken it at about 50-55 but honestly by the time I was done cleaning up everything else (literally) in the main game I was in the late 50s anyway.

Cyclone · « **Reply #101 on:** March 17, 2013, 06:20:49 AM »

Well.. Nothing threatens me. I'm just a completionist. My fortress has 840 HP.... The healing burst does over 500 on her.

Garlyle · « **Reply #102 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:25:45 AM »

Quote from: Cyclone on March 17, 2013, 06:20:49 AM

Well.. Nothing threatens me. I'm just a completionist. My fortress has 840 HP.... The healing burst does over 500 on her.

You'd like to think you're immortal, wouldn't you?

The dragons are going to teach you otherwise.

theshirn · « **Reply #103 on:** March 17, 2013, 03:30:35 PM »

Bah. Even with maxed Rampart and Party Guard, my Fortress has yet to survive a single party-guarded attack. Three, maybe four hits and dead.

Also got horribly unlucky with an attack on an FOE's path leading to another party wipe last night; lost about an hour's progress.

orinrin · « **Reply #104 on:** March 17, 2013, 04:17:47 PM »

Quote from: Garlyle on March 17, 2013, 11:25:45 AM

You'd like to think you're immortal, wouldn't you?

The dragons are going to teach you otherwise.

Too bad the elemental dragons deal 1 damage to you if you have a Runemaster in your party. :u

The last one is a different story though.

Cyclone · « **Reply #105 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:05:32 PM »

Quote from: Garlyle on March 17, 2013, 11:25:45 AM

You'd like to think you're immortal, wouldn't you?

The dragons are going to teach you otherwise.

Oh, I know i'm not immortal. I still remember EO3. And in that game I had the hoplite princess combo.

Garlyle · « **Reply #106 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:34:59 PM »

Quote from: 電子レンジボガス on March 17, 2013, 04:17:47 PM

Too bad the elemental dragons deal 1 damage to you if you have a Runemaster in your party. :u

Until the Thunder Dragon uses roar and randomly kills party members as a side effect of it, nevermind the frequency of physical attacks and stuff like Absolute Zero.

Also it takes a lot more than just a Rune Master to get elemental damage that low due to the fact that a maxed Rune is only 50% damage reduction (though hey, fortress, Elemental Guard stacking with it, makes a difference etc); though I have known it to be done. Thunder Dragon's still a jerk though.

orinrin · « **Reply #107 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:51:11 PM »

Quote from: Garlyle on March 17, 2013, 05:34:59 PM

Until the Thunder Dragon uses roar and randomly kills party members as a side effect of it, nevermind the frequency of physical attacks and stuff like Absolute Zero.

Also it takes a lot more than just a Rune Master to get elemental damage that low due to the fact that a maxed Rune is only 50% damage reduction (though hey, fortress, Elemental Guard stacking with it, makes a difference etc); though I have known it to be done. Thunder Dragon's still a jerk though.

I ended up doing the dragons using the elemental accessories (50% for each ring), subclass Runemaster (30% or so?) and the food that you find next to each dragon (another good chunk of resistance). The roars aren't too much of an issue if you stack enough damage or binds. In hindsight, I probably wouldn't even need a Runemaster if I had a Fortress or Medic in my party.

Edit: I highly don't recommend doing the DivDrag using an all Imperial party. >_>

Ikari · « **Reply #108 on:** March 17, 2013, 06:31:50 PM »

Whew, I reached the third stratum, currently just wandering about the cave and labyrinth. I really like this game, it's definitely addicting. I mean, I'm absolutely terrible at it, but I still love it.

So, random question; What are your favorite/best party set-ups? So far, mine looks like this;

Fortress Nightsomething
Arcanist Runemaster Medic

orinrin · « **Reply #109 on:** March 17, 2013, 06:55:43 PM »

Quote from: Ikari on March 17, 2013, 06:31:50 PM

Whew, I reached the third stratum, currently just wandering about the cave and labyrinth. I really like this game, it's definitely addicting. I mean, I'm absolutely terrible at it, but I still love it.

So, random question; What are your favorite/best party set-ups? So far, mine looks like this;

Fortress Nightsomething
Arcanist Runemaster Medic

That party setup looks pretty similar to one of my friend's post-game layouts (minus the Medic). I personally prefer to front-load all of my damage in the first few turns though.

Normal Party:
Landsknecht | Fortress
Runemaster | Runemaster | Runemaster

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These layouts are far from optimal, but it's still hilarious to see the 6th Stratum boss get bursted down so fast.

Ikari · « **Reply #110 on:** March 17, 2013, 07:01:56 PM »

Quote from: 電子レンジボガス on March 17, 2013, 06:55:43 PM

Normal Party:
Landsknecht | Fortress
Runemaster | Runemaster | Runemaster

That's a party I seriously considered for a long time, even calling it my "New Game + Party" (As in restarting a game with those) but as I played, I realized how much Runemasters are unpractical. Their only damage source costs a considerable amount of TP, and that shortens the time I can explore. That's why I stuck a Medic and 2-3 "I don't need TP" classes, (Arcanist is often switched for a First Row Landsknecht) so I could just do almost all of my fights with the attack command, and heal completely at the end.

I've been playing with an arcanist for a long time so far, and I can't decide whether it's the worst class in the game, or the very best. (So far! I know I'm lacking two other classes.) It has insanely good heals and damage output (Poison, woo-hoo!), as well as an insane range of debilitating effects, but it's hard to just deal damage with it.

Speaking of which, just checking, I get the second unlockable classes once I finish the third stratum, riiiiight?

theshirn · « **Reply #111 on:** March 17, 2013, 07:09:53 PM »

Yes, each unlockable class comes up as you clear the second, third, and fourth labyrinths.

That was just silly. Finally got around to going back to the Baboon King...landed paralysis on the first turn, and he couldn't move for the rest of the fight, except to summon the rollers. Totally silly.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #112 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:06:36 PM »

With much tears, I have retired my beloved team for a brand new postgame team:

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Given how underleveled 4/5 of my team is, they're doing fairly well in the sixth stratum. :o Speaking of, the sixth stratum is unusually not painful compared to past games. I hope that changes as I go on.

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Cyclone · « **Reply #113 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:31:04 PM »

Just beat the game at level 66/67. Had a 7200 damage attack come out of my sniper on the midboss. Post-game content will have to wait for my battery to recharge though :\

Here, have a guild card.

http://puu.sh/2k8NJ

EDIT: Fire Dragon down. Beat him in 1 try

. Turns out I *am* invincible. Fortress tanked 5 hits of the same move before falling... Then got auto-revived. Calm Breath burst and a party heal got me back to max (which is 960) I forgot to friggin' take a formaldehyde into the battle though...

Garlyle · « **Reply #114 on:** March 19, 2013, 07:04:52 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on March 18, 2013, 05:06:36 PM

Given how underleveled 4/5 of my team is, they're doing fairly well in the sixth stratum. :o Speaking of, the sixth stratum is unusually not painful compared to past games. I hope that changes as I go on.

It does get more painful. A lot more painful.

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. Also the boss is... a thing. Though it's definitely less powerful than other EO bonus bosses

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Quote

EDIT: Fire Dragon down. Beat him in 1 try . Turns out I *am* invincible. Fortress tanked 5 hits of the same move before falling... Then got auto-revived. Calm Breath burst and a party heal got me back to max (which is 960) I forgot to friggin' take a formaldehyde into the battle though...

To be fair, Fire Dragon is the easiest if not solely because he's the only one without instant death or other ailment-based bullcrap, just raw damage numbers. The Ice Dragon

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and the Thunder Dragon

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. Good luck with those, though the difficulty gap isn't too huge they're really just more of a pain in the ass because they can do more.

EDIT: Apparently there's a way to avoid the Thunder Dragon's nonsense and it's the same stupid crap as the Colossus in EO2.

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. Wish I had known about this sooner.

Oh well, got to take on the --OH GOD I WISH I HADN'T TAKEN OUT THE THUNDER DRAGON

BONUS EDIT ROUND: fuck the bonus dungeon fuck the second floor of it fuck this fucking shit but I refuse to look at a map
and then I lost an hour of it because when I went back to town I screwed up my forges and attempted to reload only to realise I didn't immediately save upon return.

┬─┬ ︵ /(.□. \）

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #115 on:** March 20, 2013, 12:52:23 AM »

On B2F of the sixth stratum. I feel rather smug because within five minutes I figured out the gimmick of the entire floor.

That mildly makes up for the constant pain and death my guild is suffering.

The pain.

So much.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #116 on:** March 21, 2013, 03:51:19 PM »

Steadily exploring the final floor of the sixth stratum. I was worried about this team setup at first, but once he got enough skill points and equipment, my Sniper is really wasting some of these enemies. Funnily enough, the most use I've gotten out of my Runemaster is the staff she has equipped giving me a second quick step - which helps dealing with

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far less heart attack-inducing. Once I reach the bonus boss, gonna mop up the rest of the game and conditional drops. Gonna 100% this man we're doing this man.

Garlyle · « **Reply #117 on:** March 22, 2013, 02:42:51 PM »

Man this uh... this superboss is... yeah.

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Cyclone · « **Reply #118 on:** March 22, 2013, 08:18:14 PM »

So I think I gained like 5 levels in 6B2 before I figured out the gimmick for the floor. When it finally hit me there was a long pause... then 'oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.'

Honestly that's what i get for mapping so diligently.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #119 on:** March 22, 2013, 09:56:28 PM »

Nob question. I wantthis game but no 3ds. I researched that it has a digital download option (yay), but im worried about what that means for redownload, speed,etc issues. Ive heard all kinds of stories regarding nintendo's digital download policy's and i quite frankly dont believe it all. Basically all i really care about is can i delete it and redl it to my same 3ds' HD unlimited times in case i need to make space for other digital downloads? And is the speed or whatever for EO4 acceptable? I know digital should theoretically mean its faster but i just wanna be safe =p.