Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS

[Garlyle]

I swear I'm having an easier time getting through the fourth labyrinth by just fighting the FOEs instead of trying to avoid them.

To be fair though it's really fun 8D

[DarkslimeZ]

Hey don't say that, now I feel unoriginal because that's my party too.

Same, except swap Sniper out with Alchemist or whatever the magician class is called. Fire Rune + Blazing Link madness

[orinrin]

I decided to switch out one of the Imperials in my joke party (three is probably too many anyways) for a Fortress since I kept wiping on the 6th stratum boss.  Ended up beating it by using my new Fortress as bait.  Somehow the only surviving members of the battle were my two Imperials (despite being on the front line and having less defense than my back-row casters).  I can't really complain too much though!


Updated guild card (with spoilers).  Time to take a break and maybe head back to FE13 Lunatic+.

[trancehime]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/33008925

everything about this mylist is both terribly wrong and... incredibly... engrossing

(It's a run of EO4 with... guro elements in it. Uh yeah)

[NegaZero]

When I was initially thinking about what my party would be, I wanted to avoid using a Linksknecht since I ran a Warrior's Might party in EO3. After dying to the 3rd labyrinth boss 3 or so times, I decided to go re-spec my landsknect (who was going to be replaced by a Bushi) to make full use of Freeze Link.

I'm in love.

E: I'm still going to try out a B/NS instead of my Landsknecht for a little while, just to see if it'll work as well as I think it'll work. Plus, I'll be replacing my Sniper with an I/R later on, and no Dancer = no Linksknecht.

E2: Oh God. And here I thought the invisible FOEs from EO2 were bad.

[theshirn]

Got the game last night.  Cleared the first labyrinth this morning. :V

I didn't realize it at first but I actually have the box party on this run! (F/L/N S/M)  The lack of elemental damage made a couple early FOEs harder than they needed to be, but I am making pretty solid progress.  Also managed to land a Blind and an Arm Bind on the boss at separate points, which made him a lot easier.

[Garlyle]

Got the game last night.  Cleared the first labyrinth this morning. :V

I didn't realize it at first but I actually have the box party on this run! (F/L/N S/M)  The lack of elemental damage made a couple early FOEs harder than they needed to be, but I am making pretty solid progress.  Also managed to land a Blind and an Arm Bind on the boss at separate points, which made him a lot easier.

Get Links even just at level one on the Landsknecht and Bolt Strike on the Fortress and bam, there's all the elemental damage you'll need for a while - even without levelling them past 1.

[theshirn]

Get Links even just at level one on the Landsknecht and Bolt Strike on the Fortress and bam, there's all the elemental damage you'll need for a while - even without levelling them past 1.

I have them (as well as the Nightseeker's Ice slash skill).  Problem is that the only person slower than my Landshark (I love that name) is my Fortress and I didn't have Vanguard.  My early point placement was...questionable.  But now I am getting places (literally, just upgraded my airship).

[nintendonut888]

Cleared the second stratum last night. That boss was intense. x_x

Although I've steadfastly stood by my starting lineup in all previous games, the arcanist is just too good to pass up, so my sniper is out. Man I just love this game to pieces.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I am finally reaching the end of EO1-- sans postgame because fuck that shit <_<;

So I am trying to decide which game to start next.
EO2 would be going consecutively which I like-- and I already have a party in mind that would also be a nice challenge for me. I realized that I rely way too much on my Medic in EO1, so I wanna put myself to the test and not use one at all in EO2. So I think I'd be using a Protector, Dark Hunter, War Magus, Gunner, and Hexer-- that way they can all work and cooperate with one another (Gunner, Hexer, and War Magus can help with Binds for Dark Hunter, War Magus can heal/buff/bind/cursecut for TP, Gunner can bind/elemental damage, hexer can do a bunch of neat stuff to assist the Dark Hunter and War Magus, and Protector can keep the squishies from dying too fast). I think it'd be fun. :3

EO3 sounds the most appealing because I've been eager to play it for quite some time now, but didn't want to dive in until I finished EO1-- and playing a game with all new classes would make EO2 feel more fresh later, I suppose?

and EO4 is what y'all are playing and I'd like to join in, but at the same time I wanna play the earlier ones, first...

Well, I'll beat the EO1 final boss and see what I think from there.

[Garlyle]

Well, relying on a medic is actually sort of normal in Etrian Odyssey 1 - since no other classes had ways to recover HP and Medic had Immunize which also could cut all damage by 45%.  By comparison, there are always alternatives to a dedicated medic you can use in EO2/3/4 - EO2 has War Magus, EO3 has Princes, and EO4 has both Dancers and Arcanists.

I do suggest going to EO2 next; if not solely because there's system improvements in each game that make going backwards a little tougher.  Also EO2 is, unlike others in the series, more directly linked to the previous game (Use the password from EO1's options menu once you complete the game).  What I will tell you right now is that Hexer is capable of breaking the game in EO2 if used offensively, because Revenge just destroys everything.

[theshirn]

I'd stick with playing them in order - going back to EO2 after finishing up EO3 was mildly painful.  It's not terrible, but the gradual constant improvements with each iteration just make them better to play in order.

The party you laid out is actually the cookie-cutter party for EO2, and past the first couple levels you shouldn't have much trouble!

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I think I'll do just that, then. :3

And yeah, that sounds good. I really wanted to use a Hexer in EO1 because they looked like a ton of fun, but I just don't have a place for one in my party

(That, and I wanted to use as many new classes as possible in EO2 to keep things fresh-- my party in EO1 is Protector, Ronin, Landsknecht, Medic, and Survivalist, so I don't wanna use any of those in EO2-- Protector aside.) :3c

The party you laid out is actually the cookie-cutter party for EO2, and past the first couple levels you shouldn't have much trouble!

Aw,  really? I thought I was being creative with it, too. :<

[trancehime]

As I'm going through my low-level run, I'm starting to really see why Princes(ses) are basically the god-tier class of the game. They have excellent synergy with just about all the classes, and Prevent Order is one of the strongest supportive skills in the game. Without it, I would not be able to manage the feats I'm doing now (

Spoiler:

making Shin a laughable joke at low levels

).

If anyone actually cares, I'm about one step away from finishing my low level EO3 game.

The only thing preventing me from beating the game is actually making it to the room of the final boss. I hate everything about B18F.

Levels are at 22/25/25/24/24.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

If anyone actually cares, I'm about one step away from finishing my low level EO3 game.

The only thing preventing me from beating the game is actually making it to the room of the final boss. I hate everything about B18F.

Levels are at 22/25/25/24/24.

Wait, is EO3 only like 20 floors or something? :O

Also wow, that's pretty low. Would there be any way of recording the fight with the final boss? That'd be pretty neat to see.

[trancehime]

Wait, is EO3 only like 20 floors or something? :O

Yes, the main game stops at B20F.

Also wow, that's pretty low. Would there be any way of recording the fight with the final boss? That'd be pretty neat to see.

I'll think about it. Might be possible.

[Garlyle]

Wait, is EO3 only like 20 floors or something? :O

Also wow, that's pretty low. Would there be any way of recording the fight with the final boss? That'd be pretty neat to see.

EO3 only has four floors per stratum instead of the usual 5.  However, EO3's floors on average felt a little larger than previous games, and there's the entirity of the Sea available as well (Basically a huge puzzle navigation challenge where the rewards are about 15-ish bonus boss fights)

It still has 5 absolutely massive postgame floors but yeah.

I second recording a low-level EO3 final boss fight that sounds fantastic.  Best I've seen was fighting the postgame final boss with a single level 57 character but that was stupid

[theshirn]

Are you going for the Deep City or True ending?

[trancehime]

Are you going for the Deep City or True ending?

Deep City ending.



We shall see what happens in the interim.

EDIT: Just to test myself, I ended up actually defeating

Spoiler:

Kujura and the Deep Princess

with this setup. Video recordings are a highly likely.

EDIT 2:  Highlight reel of the final boss fight. This was captured on stream, and then exported.

[Prody]

I'll probably won't be able to touch EO4 until I get a 3DS which I plan to get one along with Animal Crossing.

I am finally reaching the end of EO1-- sans postgame because fuck that shit <_<;

Medic's immunize pretty much solves all your problems, especially when its boosted.

EDIT 2:  Highlight reel of the final boss fight. This was captured on stream, and then exported.

Great fight! Really like your commentary and would watch more of your gameplay if possible.

[Garlyle]

Medic's immunize pretty much solves all your problems, especially when its boosted.

I never finished EO1's postgame despite reaching literally the sealed doors at the end of B30F; my team didn't have a Protector.  Anti-elements are so important for the postgame bosses that it's kind of stupid actually and I really didn't want to farm up a Protector so... yeah.

Also I REALLY need to finish this damn game because apparently... things.  Huge spoiler ahead if it's true:

Spoiler:

I'm hearing theories that the final dungeon is actually supposed to be Lagaard

EDIT:

Spoiler:

That would have been a shocker but it doesn't seem like it's the case.  Although the whole "Heavenbringer" thing seems to suggest a connection back to EO2 and the city is reminiscient of Lagaard's design (not to mention being at the base of a Yggdrasil), the fact is that Yggdrasil in EO4 is a completely different thing from the EO2 Yggdrasil, so...

[theshirn]

Well, Hollow Queen handed me my ass.  Then I went back after killing a rare sheep FOE for 50k exp and thrashed her right back.  The real problem was that nothing stuck my first time; every bind or ailment lasted a single turn, two at the outside.  The second attempt, they'd stick for 3-4 turns easy, making it a much easier battle.

[Ikari]

So I'm stuck in EO4, trying to beat the huge half-bear half-monster thing, that is surrounded by two bears. How do I even beat it...?

[theshirn]

So I'm stuck in EO4, trying to beat the huge half-bear half-monster thing, that is surrounded by two bears. How do I even beat it...?

There's a hidden passage in the room that will let you sneak around behind it.  This will not only give you a preemptive attack but the other two bears won't join the battle.

[Ikari]

There's a hidden passage in the room that will let you sneak around behind it.  This will not only give you a preemptive attack but the other two bears won't join the battle.

Oh dear god THANK YOU. I'll be trying this out real soon.

[nintendonut888]

Managed to hack and slash my way into the fourth labyrinth last night. God this game is sooooo good. *_* I see they also found the perfect balance of plot at last. EO3 kinda made me roll my eyes in its attempt to have a substantial plot, but EO4 gives it just enough weight to keep you interested, while not bogging down the gameplay with exposition. Of course, trying to figure out what the labyrinth will throw at you next is still the most exciting part. My team's a bit underleveled due to resting them after the third stratum, but at level 39/40, here's hoping I can

Spoiler:

stop the empire's dastardly plans.

[Garlyle]

Managed to hack and slash my way into the fourth labyrinth last night. God this game is sooooo good. *_* I see they also found the perfect balance of plot at last. EO3 kinda made me roll my eyes in its attempt to have a substantial plot, but EO4 gives it just enough weight to keep you interested, while not bogging down the gameplay with exposition. Of course, trying to figure out what the labyrinth will throw at you next is still the most exciting part. My team's a bit underleveled due to resting them after the third stratum, but at level 39/40, here's hoping I can

Spoiler:

stop the empire's dastardly plans.

Nah, actually, you're at a fine level.  Generally the level you are first likely to be able to clear a stratum is about 5+10*stratum (so 15 for 1st, 25 for 2nd, 35 for 3rd, etc); which is actually plenty even if you're resting between stratums.

[Minch]

Does anyone know how long it takes to get that part of the flying ship to fly higher? I've been doing these side quests for about 2-3 days and all I've gotten so far in terms of parts was the Food flinger mark two.

[theshirn]

You get that from the first cave in the second land (which is the only place you can reach when you first get there).

[Minch]

Miasma cave? Damn, I guess it's time to get a move on and fight some lizards then.