Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release

[Red Frost]

...where are you seeing these?

On another forum that's keeping up with the Pokemon leaks.  I told myself not to spoil it for me, but I had to see the final evos for the starters because that would determine that Froakie is the best of all which one I'd get.
Ignore the following if you don't want to ruin the surprise:
 
Fennekin 3rd stage:
http://i.imgur.com/GJvoqHZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/nxzgQGy.jpg
 
Froakie 3rd stage:
http://i.imgur.com/k7gisqf.jpg
 
Chespin 3rd stage:
http://i.imgur.com/uNor4KA.jpg

[Suikama]

Fennekin 3rd stage:

YER A WIZARD FENNE

Froakie 3rd stage:

holy shit this is awesome

i know who im picking now

Chespin 3rd stage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6R4-Q-jX74

[Drake]

i know you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcd62xRQ9e4

anyways

[20:44:41] <Taizen> I have a bad habit of spoiling everything possible within a game pre-acquisition for myself, so i've lost any inhibitions associated
[20:44:49] <Liquid> Same
[20:44:56] <Drake> i did really well for bw/bw2
[20:45:58] <Drake> oh god i just finish saying that
[20:46:02] <Drake> and i'm spoiling myself right now
[20:46:20] <Drake> fennekin yessssssssss
[20:46:55] <Drake> froakie yesssssssss
[20:47:06] <Drake> ...chespin ok

[Chaore]

I kinda like Chespins.

Far more than his second stage atleast :V

[commandercool]

I... Might pick the fire starter for the first time ever.

And yeah, it did occur to me that maybe I should stop spoiling everything right now so there's still some surprise left, but I decided I probably ultimately don't care that much. Most of the fun for Pokemon for me is the collecting, and this isn't going to change that much.

[commandercool]

might be possible with the new pokemon box thing :V

on an aside note I forgot I have yet to complete my pokemon black dex

I just need Meloetta and Gensect. Anyone got one? :derp:

I think I got extras of those. Have you got an extra Jirachi, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, or Arceus? I know I have an extra Meloetta, and if I do actually have two Genesects I'd be willing to two-for-one for any of the stuff I'm missing.

[Red Frost]

YER A WIZARD FENNE

I really wanted it to be a witch (with a witch's hat and everything) but I think the design is more based on a miko/priestess.  The design's growing on me, but those giant ear-tufts ruin it.
 

on an aside note I forgot I have yet to complete my pokemon black dex

I just need Meloetta and Gensect. Anyone got one? :derp:

Can I get in on this too?  I need to register these guys as well as Celebi, Darkrai, Arceus, Shaymin, Phione, Manaphy, and Victini.
(it'd also be nice to register Groudon and Rayquaza without having to beat my Emerald game)
 

Most of the fun for Pokemon for me is the collecting, and this isn't going to change that much.

For once in my life, I want to be able to play a Pokemon game and go "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING!?" when encountering a Pokemon.  I'm going to try and make it happen this generation.
(but no promises because I'm weak)

[Suikama]

I think I got extras of those. Have you got an extra Jirachi, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, or Arceus? I know I have an extra Meloetta, and if I do actually have two Genesects I'd be willing to two-for-one for any of the stuff I'm missing.

i'm pretty sure i have like a bajillion copies of every other legendary from duplication back in the day :V

time to brush off the old games then

For once in my life, I want to be able to play a Pokemon game and go "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING!?" when encountering a Pokemon.  I'm going to try and make it happen this generation.

at least this time the japanese version doesnt come out an entire year before the other regions like before

[commandercool]

i'm pretty sure i have like a bajillion copies of every other legendary from duplication back in the day :V

time to brush off the old games then

Just checked, definitely got an extra Meloetta if you want it, but only one Genesect. I got a handful of dream world abilities and some rare-ish past generation moves if you're looking for any of that stuff.

[Suikama]

alright i have an extra shaymin and we can just trade back and forth darkrai for genesect just so we can have them in our pokedex

[Suikama]

my friend code is 0648 8347 6350

[Yatakarasu]

Fuck, now I'm torn between picking Fennekin and Froakie.

Spoiler:

also yay, water/dark

Now I just need to resist spoiling the rest. The final evos were kinda a big thing for me to see anyway.

[commandercool]

alright i have an extra shaymin and we can just trade back and forth darkrai for genesect just so we can have them in our pokedex

Cool. My code's 1164 1152 3245

[Suikama]

wanna trade right now? :derp:

yay pokedex complete o/

[MatsuriSakuragi]

CHECK YO DELPH' BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgZB-sjMMdA

There's no good pics of Chespin's final evo, but Brawl in the Family totally called Fenniken turning out poorly in the last minute while Froakie turns into some super majestical beast.

I so called Fennekin's final form to be Fire/Psychic (fuck yes) and Froakie's final form to be Water/Fighting. Now Chespin's has to be Grass/Dark and I'm 3 for 3.

[Suikama]

but it clearly shows Froakie as WATER/DARK :V

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Not in the leak I had seen :colbert:

I suppose one of us was hit with a fake. :[

[Auenb]

Out of the starters, I'm going for the water starter. Leak I saw had the final evolution of Froakie as a Water/Dark type. :p

Though, I'm liking the new mega forms they're unveiling. I planned on getting X first, so I'll get the chance to have that magnificent monster Charizard can turn into in X version.

[Bio]

So how do you guys think mega forms will effect tier positions? Will they be considered separate Pokemon with separate tiers from their normal forms, or will everything that gets a mega form be shifting up to UU-OU? Or will most mega forms not be significant competitively?

Probably the items, since they're specific to what form you're evolving, will get clauses for each tier. In terms of the power of the Pokemon, expect to see Charizard Y to replace Ninetales on regular OU Sun as it's altogether better. Magic Bounce Absol also gives the Ability to quite a powerful Pokemon and will see usage in OU/Uber as Espeon is in this tier only for its ability and speed, Absol however gets a STAB Sucker Punch. Blaziken is Blaziken and Lucario is Lucario. Forever OU/Ubers.

MegaMawile and MegaAmpharos probably won't move up unless they are seriously good.


Also looks like Bowser is a starter now.

Edit: I don't know what to feel about Binacle or Carbink.

[Raikaria]

Can I suggest that any leaks not officially announced be in spoiler tags please?

Partially because they are unconfirmed and could be fakes, and partially because, you know, spoilers and half of them make no sense for the people not aware of the leaks [like me].

[commandercool]

Probably the items, since they're specific to what form you're evolving, will get clauses for each tier. In terms of the power of the Pokemon, expect to see Charizard Y to replace Ninetales on regular OU Sun as it's altogether better. Magic Bounce Absol also gives the Ability to quite a powerful Pokemon and will see usage in OU/Uber as Espeon is in this tier only for its ability and speed, Absol however gets a STAB Sucker Punch. Blaziken is Blaziken and Lucario is Lucario. Forever OU/Ubers.

MegaMawile and MegaAmpharos probably won't move up unless they are seriously good.


Also looks like Bowser is a starter now.

Edit: I don't know what to feel about Binacle or Carbink.

Isn't Charizard Y massively worse than Ninetales in OU? In a weather war you typically have to switch in and out a lot, and it has a quadruple Stealth Rock weakness. Unless it can take down Politoed and Tyranitar one on one in adverse weather, which I don't think it can. At least that's how I understand it works. I don't play OU very much.

[The Greatest Dog]

Don't activate your Mega Stone until after Politoed switches in. Solarbeam on the turn that Drought activates?

[commandercool]

Don't activate your Mega Stone until after Politoed switches in. Solarbeam on the turn that Drought activates?

Oh, is that an option? I thought it was automatic when you entered battle. And if it is, would hanging out in play with your mega stone off activate your enters play ability when you turn it on?

[The Greatest Dog]

Drought's supposed to immediately activate whenever someone acquires the ability, like through Skill Swap or something. It's the same way with Intimidate and maybe some other ones, too, isn't it?
From the looks of it, Mega Evolutions have priority in the sense that they take place before all actions in the turn, but they don't actually consume the turn. It's kinda like Rotations in rotation battles?

[Suikama]

Oh Mega Charizard X doesn't get Drought

guess Y is still better then :derp:

Topsy-Turvy
US Name: Topsy-turvy
Jp. Name: Turn Over

Type: Dark-type

Effect:
This move will completely invert all stat changes on the opponent

huh. so maybe blaziken wont be uber this time

[Drake]

one new move, suddenly entire metagame shifts

[BT]

one new move, suddenly entire metagame shifts

Nobody Likes Stealth Rock

Serious reply is that Topsy-Turvy doesn't look gamebreaking in the least and is similar in impact to moves like Haze and Psych Up AFAICT.

[Raikaria]

Haze, Power Trick and Power Swap don't fix stuff like Blaziken.

[BT]

Haze, Power Trick and Power Swap don't fix stuff like Blaziken.

Roar/Whirlwind does. Maybe my comparison was off but it's basically a non-damage move that affects a single Pokemon. I could see some novelty use in Doubles but that's it really.

[commandercool]

Roar/Whirlwind does. Maybe my comparison was off but it's basically a non-damage move that affects a single Pokemon. I could see some novelty use in Doubles but that's it really.

I don't think it will be resigned exclusively to Doubles, but I don't think it'll have a huge meta impact. Maybe it will, and I would love it if it did, but the main draw seems to be that it's a narrower Trick Room that's negated on switch.