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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 10:08:31 PM »
You should be safe if you're not playing.

Play.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 11:13:15 PM »
Is this game going to have 24 hour deadlines to maximize the potential for stream-of-consciousness posting?


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2012, 11:14:54 PM »
i'm going to compose my posts by leaving the post open for an hour and just typing every single thought I have and then posting when the hour is up.

Not that I intend to play


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2012, 11:45:35 PM »
Still awaiting the epic revival of Melonhead.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2012, 03:15:09 AM »
I suddenly had the horrifying revelation that at least half of you jokers will try to roleplay as Serela in this game.
Technically the goal of the contest is to be the Sereliest! (Although obviously there's a scummy group that tries to win by ~*~other means~*~ because this is a MAFIA GAME not Survivor. And also not Yukkuri Mafia.)

Spoilers:Depending on how the game goes, near the end there will probably be an poll (non-players allowed to vote because all the cool contest shows have audience polls) of who the Sereliest is. This may or may not be purely to play along with the game's flavor and for amusement. Technically I can't stop people from voting via entirely different criteria either

This could explain alot about Serela you know since they're all his avatars
originally they were all going to be old/future avatars of mine but then I made/found so many lovely things for flavor so then people like Mitt Romney came in

also I realized a bunch of my old avatars (like the Satori ones) are pretty eh

I maybe should have put the Satori :smugface: meme parody one in actually even though I stole that from someone else on this forum and that motk meme went out of style forever ago but I guess if someone really wanted to try for Avatar Selection From Your Nightmares Mafia this is /in-material

Anyway 8/13 so far!
« Last Edit: November 03, 2012, 03:16:56 AM by Serela »
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2012, 08:04:11 PM »
10 ---> 9.

It only goes down from there

Don't lynch me.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2012, 08:30:58 PM »
10 ---> 9.

It only goes down from there

1) Serela game.
2) Role hijinks!
3) Off-site.
4) Based around being Serela.
5) Anonymous based around avatars of Serela.
6) It's run by Serela.

There's just so much wrong with this game it's a miracle it got that high in the first place.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2012, 08:34:57 PM »
1) Serela game.
2) Role hijinks!
3) Off-site.
4) Based around being Serela.
5) Anonymous based around avatars of Serela.
6) It's run by Serela.

There's just so much wrong with this game it's a miracle it got that high in the first place.

It blows my mind that people are still willing to play in role madness games here after practically every role madness game on MotK in recent memory has been an unmitigated disaster

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2012, 08:42:22 PM »
There's no 'fun' in 'order'

Gotta have that chaos once in a while

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2012, 09:16:49 PM »
It blows my mind that people are still willing to play in role madness games here after practically every role madness game on MotK in recent memory has been an unmitigated disaster

The last one wasn't *that* bad.

... Well, for me it wasn't. I abused the chaos and I would won if IHNN hadn't changed his mind on his target D:

Also I'd /in but coursework.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 09:18:47 PM by Raikaria »


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2012, 09:19:48 PM »
It blows my mind that people are still willing to play in role madness games here after practically every role madness game on MotK in recent memory has been an unmitigated disaster

Upside is that this one won't exist on MotK.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2012, 09:20:12 PM »
... Well, for me it wasn't. I abused the chaos and I would won if IHNN hadn't changed his mind on his target D:
Think about it though, 2 scum left and I considered both  :V

Really though I meta-gamed the flavor and decided a Zakeri result was more likely to be accurate.


What's so bad about a Serela-run game?  Are we all going to be modkilled in LyLo by a mis-sent PM?

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2012, 09:25:45 PM »
There's no 'fun' in 'order'

Gotta have that chaos once in a while

>Once in a while
Except it's the norm. People only want to run Mafiers to introduce some kind of wacky setup in the mix. (Exceptions are likely.)

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What's so bad about a Serela-run game?

I could make a list, but imagine Serela's play and then imagine that running your game and designing balance. Also read past Serela games.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2012, 09:27:48 PM »
Think about it though, 2 scum left and I considered both  :V

Really though I meta-gamed the flavor and decided a Zakeri result was more likely to be accurate.


What's so bad about a Serela-run game?  Are we all going to be modkilled in LyLo by a mis-sent PM?

Except I used my Geass to make it so you would see Zakeri as town. I think. Either that or on Zakeri to make him look town. Can't recall. I recall I couldn't make you see EVERYONE as town.


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2012, 09:28:19 PM »
It blows my mind that people are still willing to play in role madness games here after practically every role madness game on MotK in recent memory has been an unmitigated disaster

That really isn't true.  Dayplay has been the most significant factor in all motk games.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2012, 09:30:20 PM »
Except I used my Geass to make it so you would see Zakeri as town. I think. Either that or on Zakeri to make him look town. Can't recall. I recall I couldn't make you see EVERYONE as town.
You made it so that you would appear as town to me, I sent in a message to cop you then after a few hours sent in another saying scratch that cop Zakeri.


I will concede the last game was a bad game for me relative to the ones prior though.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2012, 09:48:22 PM »
I could make a list, but imagine Serela's play and then imagine that running your game and designing balance. Also read past Serela games.
psycho plot seriously can't even be counted as a real game of mafia, and it's a miracle my co-mod thought it was fine

Psycho Prophecy went mostly okay (Everyone had fun!) but there was some non-setup-related ridiculousness that occurred. (Actually, there was a LOT of that. I could make a list.) Town was also overpowered in retrospect, and it's thankful that such didn't actually come into reality because the scumteam would have had legitimate reasons to be mad at me.

This setup I've paid more attention to trying to make weird stuff like my previous games while STILL not actually making any side all that much more powerful then they would be in non-role-madness, and have more experience (And also Things That Don't Work/Things that Lead To Bad Stuff like Zombie Apoc and Magical Madness 2 setup gaming bonanza, or MM2's attempt to balance by just dumping loads of roleblocks into the game along with powerful roles that are given severe limitations instead)


Edible's comment is still completely called for, recent role madness games have been disasters and the flavor is extremely questionable :V That being said, we're back at 10/13 signups although I'm going to need a little time to mess with non-mafia related things and also poke at summore avatars since why not, before I update the signups post

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2012, 09:56:05 PM »
That really isn't true.  Dayplay has been the most significant factor in all motk games.

And dayplay is always worse in role madness games because our playerbase gets too distracted with setup nonsense.  I have a truckload of evidence backing me up in BGOM and AGOM where the opposite is true.  I tried to encourage further setups like that and, as Bard said, every chucklefuck wants to do something wacky and unique and usually fails dramatically, alienating more and more of the playerbase as time went on.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2012, 09:58:47 PM »
That really isn't true.  Dayplay has been the most significant factor in all motk games.
Dayplay and trainwrecks are definitely not mutually exclusive.


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2012, 10:05:16 PM »
Crayons!

Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2012, 10:12:01 PM »
And dayplay is always worse in role madness games because our playerbase gets too distracted with setup nonsense.  I have a truckload of evidence backing me up in BGOM and AGOM where the opposite is true.  I tried to encourage further setups like that and, as Bard said, every chucklefuck wants to do something wacky and unique and usually fails dramatically, alienating more and more of the playerbase as time went on.
angel beats and 10Ds were pretty questionable despite not being role madness. swordgirls being a disaster wasn't due to play level and iirc roles barely got involved in the discussion, just the scum quicktopic. imp mafia wasn't a disaster and roles did get involved in discussion there. i dunno i think motk just sucks

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2012, 10:13:56 PM »
angel beats and 10Ds were pretty questionable despite not being role madness. swordgirls being a disaster wasn't due to play level and iirc roles barely got involved in the discussion, just the scum quicktopic. imp mafia wasn't a disaster and roles did get involved in discussion there. i dunno i think motk just sucks

Why are all the games I played in questionable :/


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2012, 10:16:56 PM »
And dayplay is always worse in role madness games because our playerbase gets too distracted with setup nonsense.
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For that matter, some degrees of flavor are going to be banned from claim-territory. Although they'll still be shown in the flips.  Setup gaming (Even without going into nightactions, there's just the matter of people's claimed role) is one of the biggest pitfalls in RM, kept this in mind throughout the process. I don't want people getting cleared for something dumb like "Your flavor sounds too unfakeable and not-scum"

Also 11/13 signups

Also :V@Raikaria. There's just been a loot of questionable stuff on MotK lately. The previous game was almost entirely fine apart from a few players being too passive last game and stagnating the discussion lategame.
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2012, 10:25:55 PM »
Also 11/13 signups
"serela sucks, motk mafia sucks, role madness sucks. fuck yeah /in"

Why are all the games I played in questionable :/
the only consistent factor in all your failed mafia games is you (though you could probably scapegoat serela since he was in them too but)

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2012, 10:27:52 PM »
"serela sucks, motk mafia sucks, role madness sucks. fuck yeah /in"

You'll never realise I'm in the game with this strategy.

Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2012, 10:31:58 PM »
Why are all the games I played in questionable :/
Oh Raikaria
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2012, 10:55:09 PM »
Isn't mafia more co-op/multiplayer than roleplaying (referring to the archive ToC if you're going to categorize the new games that way)?


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #57 on: November 05, 2012, 11:02:39 PM »
Isn't mafia more co-op/multiplayer than roleplaying (referring to the archive ToC if you're going to categorize the new games that way)?

Mafia is like DotA. You're randomly matched with your teams, there WILL be idiots who feed the enemy, there WILL be Carries and Disablers who don't know how to make use of their roles, and there will be a random asshole fucking up your A-game when you're not looking, ganking you in two seconds from stealth.

So yeah, it's MMRPG, Massively Multiplayer Role Play Game. Role Play, not roleplay.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2012, 11:10:43 PM »
angel beats and 10Ds were pretty questionable despite not being role madness. swordgirls being a disaster wasn't due to play level and iirc roles barely got involved in the discussion, just the scum quicktopic. imp mafia wasn't a disaster and roles did get involved in discussion there. i dunno i think motk just sucks

Sword Girls was a terrible disaster of a role madness setup, but admittedly I don't think the play was that bad, mostly just a few lurkabilly players.  I can't really comment on the others off the top of my head, but I specifically brought up AGOM and BGOM because they were open setup and I think there's a direct correlation between that sort of simple setup and an objectively higher level of observed play.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: I Wanna Be The Sereliest)
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2012, 11:21:39 PM »
Setup is open -> Fakeclaims are restricted and head-up-ass stupid role theories are eliminated -> People play the game instead of the setup -> Overall play quality improves

Oh, woe are we! If only someone had been espousing that third step for years! :(
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
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[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
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[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"