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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #270 on: January 21, 2013, 05:23:14 PM »
I most have lost my mind completely, cause I have no idea why I'm doing this but ?

/in for another undefined period of insomnia, anorexia, anxiety, the resulting increased need of coffee and cigarettes as well as the quit dangerous alcohol abuse.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #271 on: January 21, 2013, 07:27:26 PM »
But I like the card game  :3
I do, too, actually.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: Disgaea Mafia)
« Reply #272 on: January 21, 2013, 09:53:06 PM »
Give me Freya, and I'll take over Tetra Master duties for Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

We play Tetra Master?

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #273 on: January 21, 2013, 10:21:59 PM »
Tetra Master was fun yoh

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2013, 09:56:46 AM »
okay so I admint i liked the card game <_< I can't help it! I'm a card addict!


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #275 on: January 24, 2013, 05:09:25 AM »
/in

yall suck, i wanted the hammer


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #276 on: January 25, 2013, 11:24:33 AM »

Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #277 on: January 26, 2013, 12:27:18 AM »
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<huhwhat> while we're on the subject of no more motk anonymafia
[irrelevent words]
<huhwhat> not updating the mafia section of the archives thread is dumb, it's hardly "staff giving mafia preferential treatment" (which i thought was supposed to be the intended new system) since text adventures also get their own post
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> NO YOU AREN'T
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> SERELA IS ON THE LIST
<huhwhat> + mafia isn't really roleplay
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> SELERY IS NOT
<Serela_> UWAAAAAAAAH
<Serela_> HW:Huh, he stopped doing that?
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> well Hero999
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> uh
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> huhwhat
<Serela_> rofl
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> pesco got mad at mafia
<huhwhat> yeah, he put them in the roleplay section
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> which is why mafia is how it is now
<Serela_> oh you're right. huh.
<Serela_> That's weird.
<huhwhat> I guess we could ask IHNN to use the op of the signups thread
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> uh
<Serela_> I mean he could have just stopped bothering to list out details
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> it's been like that
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> since like last year
<huhwhat> still, it's confusing for anybody who wants to archive binge
<Serela_> yeah because the mafia archive is still there
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> complain about it to pesco
<Serela_> pesco basically reached the same conclusion as HW, aka too much of the playerbase sucks
<huhwhat> that doesn't mean CATEGORIZE ALL MAFIA GAMES AS ROLEPLAY LOL that shit's retarded
<Serela_> yeah that's pretty silly
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> pesco mad yo
<Serela_> but w/e
<Serela_> Pesco acts in mysterious and generally minorly frustrating ways
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> but you know
<Elucia_de_Lute_DormIma> this should all really be said to pesco if you feel like complaining
<Kitten4u> If he'd give me power I'd do it, but I don't think I could swing that at this point
^^^^^
lumping all new mafia in with roleplay games but keeping the old op is less "staff not giving mafia preferential treatment" and more "staff giving mafia unfavorable treatment"

it confuses anybody who wants to archive binge and giving mafia its own post isn't really any more preferential than having one for text adventures. if the details are too much attention then it's easy to just not include them for new games, but relegating mafia listings to the rp section is more just being petty than a legitimate way of staff not giving mafia games favor

if anything, even if new games aren't put in the mafia section they should be put in co-operative/multiplayer and not roleplay. mafia is a multiplayer game about cooperation when you get down to it, at least more than it is a game about roleplay
« Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 12:30:22 AM by huh what »

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #278 on: January 26, 2013, 12:31:37 AM »
I second the opinion that it's pretty petty to categorize the mafia games into roleplay.
I believe I've said this before, but I'll just put it out there on a more public space.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #279 on: January 26, 2013, 12:34:33 AM »
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<Serela_> Pesco acts in mysterious and generally minorly frustrating ways

Thanks Serela, I needed a new signature.

Is the way Mafia is archived really so important guys. Couldn't you like... "Hey Pesco, why is it archived under Roleplay? That doesn't make sense" instead of ALL HAIL BRITANNIA PESCO CONSPIRACY AGAINST MAFIERS.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #280 on: January 26, 2013, 12:38:20 AM »
I've actually said that to Pesco before. He either shrugged it off or didn't hear me when I asked.

Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #281 on: January 26, 2013, 12:41:07 AM »
Couldn't you like... "Hey Pesco, why is it archived under Roleplay? That doesn't make sense" instead of ALL HAIL BRITANNIA PESCO CONSPIRACY AGAINST MAFIERS.
isn't this basically what my post is doing

he wasn't on irc at the time and a public post is better than a pm because then other people have input and it's not a big enough deal to be private

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #282 on: January 26, 2013, 02:54:04 AM »
I don't think the playerbase here sucks :/

Then again most of my experience is with people who are not good at mafia so I may just not know what a "good playerbase" looks like, if there ever actually was such a thing.

I think Pesco is just a party pooper.
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #283 on: January 26, 2013, 08:02:18 AM »
Why is Mafia a roleplaying game?

I think it's better to, when creating these threads-

-Strongly define the setting early on
-Strongly define how the game is played early on; is it a traditional 1 GM/x players romp where the GM maintains world control, or is it more collaborative, etc; make sure expectations are defined
-Recruit your player pool before beginning, and don't just let anyone jump in and post without prior consultation.

Sounds like a game of Mafia to me :smug:

This is Carthrat's description of what you do to set up a RP. You do the same for a game of Mafia.

In a Mafia game, you get given a role. You act within the game in a way to fulfill your win condition. I don't think it's any coincidence that the terminology, roles and roleplay, overlaps here. The separation from co-ops/multiplayer is because what you are in a game of mafia is not who you are as a person. The decisions you make in a Mafia game are part of you acting out your win condition. In the other games, letting your personal bias decide how you move in the game is the norm over trying to be a particular character.


What excatly is 'staff favour' for Mafia?

The first games of Mafia were played in TARC. Once it started getting popular, the games got given a home in the then Unlimited Game Works section. Back then, it was possible to see who was viewing the threads, what action forum members were doing (such as sending a PM). TSO made a separate forum theme to block these exploits from UGW. When the forums got moved, Godmother and self-moderation was created so that Mafia could be managed independently. Kiro asked for an archive of past games, I saw to getting it done and asked TSO to give us the MSG storage section.

Mafia has always been a game where someone or other is going to take something said in the games too personally. Myself, Kilga and Edible would follow the games and step in if someone started going too far. Under normal forum rules, be an ass, you get probated or banned. But you're in a game and we don't want to ruin the game for the rest of the players. Punishment is deferred till after the player slot has died or the game ends. That's not all though, the person is only this bad because of the game. They're still decent in the rest of the forums. Let the punishment just be a barring from the forum games section, the Lynched punishment group.

Mafia has got over the years forum layouts, features and punishments adjusted to cater for the players. With Kilga and Edible as patron senior staffers, you have it far better than any other group or section of the forum in terms of staff feedback. There are other staffers, such as Ruro, who dislike games as a whole. Given the chance, you wouldn't even have this section of the forums.


Since you ultimately don't want the old Mafia games archived separately from the new ones, I'll move them all together under Roleplay on Monday.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #284 on: January 26, 2013, 08:25:55 AM »
what you are in a game of mafia is not who you are as a person.
My life as I know it is a lie.

Since you ultimately don't want the old Mafia games archived separately from the new ones, I'll move them all together under Roleplay on Monday.
I don't see why you can't just retain the old system, but whatever. As long as they're together.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #285 on: January 26, 2013, 08:37:50 AM »
/in

because I've been delaying this for long enough
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #286 on: January 26, 2013, 09:01:36 AM »
11 12 of 13 slots full!
Hurry up and claim the last 2 1 and if somehow a 14th wants to join well I can always tweak the setup a bit

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #287 on: January 26, 2013, 09:03:25 AM »
Keine hates me
w/e, no work or video game streams, only school
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #288 on: January 26, 2013, 09:04:53 AM »
ATTN mysterious thirteenth slot

You have one hour to claim your slot

Godspeed

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #289 on: January 26, 2013, 10:10:26 AM »
>:(

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #290 on: January 26, 2013, 10:26:26 AM »
Does that mean that you are our 13th BT?


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #292 on: January 26, 2013, 10:40:50 AM »
I'd have taken a second slot already if I could.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #293 on: January 26, 2013, 10:43:06 AM »
Then why haven't you? Are you saying that you're somehow incapable of doing so? How naive.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #294 on: January 26, 2013, 11:58:49 AM »
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what you are in a game of mafia is not who you are as a person

This. When it comes to Mafia, people suddenly think doing EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO WIN is acceptable social conduct.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #295 on: January 26, 2013, 12:09:16 PM »
This. When it comes to Mafia, people suddenly think doing EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO WIN is acceptable social conduct.
People always set red lines for themselves. Yes, in Mafia too -- they're case sensitive because people are different, so even if you can't find them it doesn't mean they don't exist. People that don't put on a limiter under *some, any* circumstance are unstable, and no one here is.

You should join.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #296 on: January 26, 2013, 12:44:05 PM »
People always set red lines for themselves. Yes, in Mafia too -- they're case sensitive because people are different, so even if you can't find them it doesn't mean they don't exist. People that don't put on a limiter under *some, any* circumstance are unstable, and no one here is.

You should join.

People still go beyond what is my comfort zone in dealing with people. And I already am not comfortable dealing with people in general.

I'd join but I already know I will regret it, and I already know I would want to replace out. The current level of play is not what I am looking for in a Mafia game.

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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #297 on: January 26, 2013, 02:31:12 PM »
Since you ultimately don't want the old Mafia games archived separately from the new ones, I'll move them all together under Roleplay on Monday.
I don't actually have a problem with mafia games being under roleplaying, but don't you think this is unfair to all the roleplaying games that aren't Mafia? Most roleplaying games go on for alot longer then our mafia games do, meaning there are far less of them. Anything that isn't Mafia is going to be lost in the stream of Mafia games that we do enjoy playing. In the time you've been putting them there alone it's already half-full of Mafia.


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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #298 on: January 26, 2013, 03:52:03 PM »
I don't think it's mod favour at all for them to have their own list considering it is a common, distinct, high-thread-density event that easily fills up it's own list and would drown out any other lists it inhabited, not to mention the vast majority of the games are -already- in their own list and it'd take far more effort to change it then otherwise

it's not really important for all the details in the current format to continue being used, e.g. who won, who was scum, etc, which would make it the same effort to maintain as just the other lists

But really, as long as all the mafia games are at least together, then that's alright enough. I just think it's a big waste of effort to actively convert the current list of games into a different, slightly worse method of organization by lumping them into an already established list, but it's not like I'm the one who would actually be going and doing it, so if you really want to, more power to you o:
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Re: RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: FF9 Mafia)
« Reply #299 on: January 26, 2013, 03:54:48 PM »
Pesco empower me and I will take care of the Mafias games.

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