Author Topic: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3 (Read 37394 times)

Oldmansour · « **Reply #240 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:55:03 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 03:05:43 AM

>"Tell me about these celestials."

>"They were the winners." the batsnake's voice drips with bitter venom. "They determine your fate, just as they decided ours. They thought they could forget us."
>"If they fought you before, then we will finish what they started." Chrysanthe guarantees the demon.
>Lily, in the meantime, has moved from her current position, and has closed on you. Her faced seems... troubled, by the current situation. She seems torn about something, a stark contrast to Chrysanthe's angry resolve. The tiger youkai seems ready and willing to destroy the downed demon. Lily is a very different story.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #241 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:02:53 AM »

>"Let us not yield to anger, Chrysanthemum. It is beneath a victor."
>Glance back to Champi: "What did they win, precisely?"

Oldmansour · « **Reply #242 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:40:43 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 04:02:53 AM

>"Let us not yield to anger, Chrysanthemum. It is beneath a victor."
>Glance back to Champi: "What did they win, precisely?"

>"They won this world, Terran. They won ownership over your lives, and cast us into the black. Their light and our darkness could not coexist, and your Champion sided with them."
>The Chrysanthemum-themed magical girls turns her head slowly towards you. "What do you mean, 'yield to anger'? You're not suggesting we let this abomination go, I hope."

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #243 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:47:35 AM »

>"There is no need to remind him of the of what is to come, I mean."
>Glance back to water boy. "What keeps the two of you from coexisting?"

Oldmansour · « **Reply #244 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:54:57 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 04:47:35 AM

>"There is no need to remind him of the of what is to come, I mean."
>Glance back to water boy. "What keeps the two of you from coexisting?"

>The demon does not seem to understand your question.
>"Do we...." Lily begins, then stops herself, still looking rather troubled.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #245 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:05:53 AM »

>Allow Champi a moment to answer, before clarifying. "You say that you and celestials cannot coexist. Why is that?"
>What do we know of these celestial thingers, anyways? Do we already know the answer to the question we propose?

Edit: So what are we doing with Champi here? Double tapping him is right out of the question, but I am thinking: Perhaps seal away its power? Or outright separate it from its power, if be can do that without any soul mutilating. ~~Then we can make him a pet!~~

Oldmansour · « **Reply #246 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:25:58 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 05:05:53 AM

>Allow Champi a moment to answer, before clarifying. "You say that you and celestials cannot coexist. Why is that?"
>What do we know of these celestial thingers, anyways? Do we already know the answer to the question we propose?

>"It is the way of things." its voice sounding, for the first time, confused. Like it can't understand how you couldn't know that. "It is our nature, what we are. They are the light, we are the dark, and Terrans stand between."
>You've only heard the term before from the demons themselves. They are obviously the demons' enemies, or at least were, at some point, and may have been responsible for sealing the demons into whatever world they currently inhabit, and the demons seem very convinced that there can be no reconciliation between the two races, but you know nothing beyond that.
>Lily tries again, her voice still unsure, quiet, almost pained. "Lotus.... are you sure we have to kill it?"
>Now it is Chrysanthemum's turn to look dumbfounded.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #247 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:28:52 AM »

>"I didn't come with such in mind, Lily."
>Look to Champi: "Have you considered overcoming your nature and trying to coexist with them?"

Oldmansour · « **Reply #248 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:50:22 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 05:28:52 AM

>"I didn't come with such in mind, Lily."
>Look to Champi: "Have you considered overcoming your nature and trying to coexist with them?"

>"Have you considered overcoming your nature and living without oxygen?"

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #249 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:52:33 AM »

>"Curious. What compels you to resist celestials in the same way we're compelled to breath? What makes it so integral that you'll die if you stop?"

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #250 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:15:20 AM »

Purvis, I understand trying to avoid killing the demon, but I, myself, don't expect that to be an option, at least not in all cases (there may be some we can avoid killing). If you want to try to avoid killing it, then do so; just realize that this effort may well end in failure.

>Purpose, what can you tell me about these 'celestials'?

Oldmansour · « **Reply #251 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:37:08 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 05:52:33 AM

>"Curious. What compels you to resist celestials in the same way we're compelled to breath? What makes it so integral that you'll die if you stop?"

>"Celestials condemn. Demons corrupt. The two battle for the third, Terrans, who submit. It is the way of things. It has been that way since this world began. Only the destruction of one can decide the fate of the other two."
>"You see?" Chrysanthe half roars, causing Lily to flinch. "They're evil, all of them! Even a baser evil than I thought was possible to exist."

Quote from: GuyYouMetOnline on July 16, 2012, 06:15:20 AM

>Purpose, what can you tell me about these 'celestials'?

>Throwing your voice out to the Purpose, you have a sense that it heard you, but for some reason, no reply comes.

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #252 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:47:59 AM »

>"What would your kind do with us were you to defeat these 'Celestials'?"

Oldmansour · « **Reply #253 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:50:40 AM »

Quote from: GuyYouMetOnline on July 16, 2012, 06:47:59 AM

>"What would your kind do with us were you to defeat these 'Celestials'?"

>The demon does not answer your question immediately. "Only the Mother knows what happens after the End. Of us six, only the Forest Champion would know, and encountering her would be your end."
>"There are SIX of you?" Lily blurts. Even Chrysanthemum seems to be somewhat unnerved by the prospect.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #254 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:05:43 AM »

>"So then you demons work off the Six Western Elements, as I suspected. I take it you represent Water then?"
~~>"Really now? Lead Bubble? Only the final boss of Megaman 2 was weak to that. Well, and Heatman, but he doesn't matter much."~~

Great, pompous angel-ish beings that condemn, and arrogant beasts that corrupt.
It's Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2 all over again.

Oldmansour · « **Reply #255 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:24:39 AM »

Quote from: Hanzo K. on July 16, 2012, 08:05:43 AM

>"So then you demons work off the Six Western Elements, as I suspected. I take it you represent Water then?"
~~>"Really now? Lead Bubble? Only the final boss of Megaman 2 was weak to that. Well, and Heatman, but he doesn't matter much."~~

>"Did you assume I meant something else when I titled myself Water Champion, Terran?"
~~>"Don't knock the classics, boy."~~

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #256 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:31:38 AM »

>"It's merely the fact that there are others like yourself who represent an element."
~~>"That, and Hanzo could only read so far back when he posted. Silly child tends to go a little too quickly."~~
>"But on another note, what exactly is this 'nameless one'? I noted you had a rather poor reaction to it."

Oldmansour · « **Reply #257 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:57:27 AM »

Quote from: Hanzo K. on July 16, 2012, 08:31:38 AM

>"It's merely the fact that there are others like yourself who represent an element."
~~>"That, and Hanzo could only read so far back when he posted. Silly child tends to go a little too quickly."~~
>"But on another note, what exactly is this 'nameless one'? I noted you had a rather poor reaction to it."

~~>"Gotta work on that, boy."~~
>The demon remains silent.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #258 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:06:45 AM »

Well you guys? Where do we go from here? I'm okay with possibly sparing the big lug, it might be useful later. (But don't count on it.)
Though I'm not averse to putting it out of it's misery either. We did do a number on it after all, and it does need to work off the karma it's accumulated.
(That, and Water-themed villains tend to have a higher chance of Heel Face Turn, according to what I've seen.)

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #259 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:06:18 PM »

I'd say get rid of it.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #260 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM »

It would not be in character to finish it off.

>"Setting that aside, what makes us different? You don't seem to have any interest in questioning your role as a corruptor, but I've never met a Terran who is willing to kneel nearly as much, and I imagine most would ask why it should be so if you told them they should."

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #261 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:48:48 PM »

Oh, I'm pretty sure it'll be Kiku who does the finishing, regardless of what we try. As I said before, try if you want, but be ready for it to end in failure.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #262 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:00:23 PM »

There might be potential to depower it into a mascot of sorts, seeing as how Purpose is more like a guiding voice that just teaches us shit.
But yeah, GYMO has a very strong and valid point.

Oldmansour · « **Reply #263 on:** July 16, 2012, 11:23:03 PM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM

>"Setting that aside, what makes us different? You don't seem to have any interest in questioning your role as a corruptor, but I've never met a Terran who is willing to kneel nearly as much, and I imagine most would ask why it should be so if you told them they should."

>"Questioning one's nature is a Terran failure. We know what we are."
>"And they use ours against us." Kiku snarls. Her eyes are filled with rage, and pain. "You saw what this monster did to that woman up there, what it was trying to do to me."

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #264 on:** July 16, 2012, 11:32:45 PM »

See? Not gonna work man.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #265 on:** July 17, 2012, 12:59:46 AM »

Why would you expect someone to change their nature based on just a few lines of conversation? This is a sort of thing that takes time. I've yet to really even begin, we're just getting some groundwork right now.

>"I know, Kiku, I know. Let us learn what we can what we can right now, shall we?"
>Look back to Champi. "Why is that it a failure?"

Oldmansour · « **Reply #266 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:02:48 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 17, 2012, 12:59:46 AM

>"I know, Kiku, I know. Let us learn what we can what we can right now, shall we?"
>Look back to Champi. "Why is that it a failure?"

>You try to talk Chrysanthemum down, but from the look in her eyes, keeping her rage under control is something that's giving her a lot of trouble.
>"Isn't it obvious?"

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #267 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:06:16 AM »

Well, don't blame me if you piss Kiku off.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #268 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:25:54 AM »

I have some ideas for that.

>Can we still mentally send stuff to Kiku, as far as we know?
>"No, it is not obvious."

Oldmansour · « **Reply #269 on:** July 17, 2012, 01:43:16 AM »

Quote from: The Man From P.U.R.V.I.S. on July 17, 2012, 01:25:54 AM

>Can we still mentally send stuff to Kiku, as far as we know?
>"No, it is not obvious."

>The connection doesn't seem to be as strong as it is between you and Lily, but this should still be the case now.
>"No." the demon says quietly. "No, it wouldn't be. Terrans so rarely see their own failings and weaknesses."