Author Topic: Town must lynch the scum to death. (Chelsea and the 7Devils Mafia Game Over) (Read 38385 times)

Kabuto · « **Reply #480 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:03:53 PM »

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For all we know it could turn out there are no vanilla and Nuko is fakeclaiming scum

Sadly i wish that were true

OOO · « **Reply #481 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:26:28 PM »

That doesn't really answer the question of "Who do you think is scum right now and why is your vote not down"

Kabuto · « **Reply #482 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:32:45 PM »

Pretty sure you only asked one question before. Also some how everyone has come to the conclusion mass claiming for little to no knowledge is a good idea so might as well wait.

Kabuto · « **Reply #483 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:34:40 PM »

Also way to single me out

OOO · « **Reply #484 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:31:07 PM »

Well Eyes has rather clear opinions already on everyone and Choker Joker posted what he thought on #449. Haven't seen either from you.

I think they should put a vote down too, or at lease express desire to put one down. Votes make the game move.

OOO · « **Reply #485 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:31:42 PM »

Also stop dodging the question and actually answer it.

Kabuto · « **Reply #486 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:39:31 PM »

Gdi woman i did answer your question. My stance on scum is the same thus far. Im waiting for dumb mass claim

Sasword · « **Reply #487 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:03:11 AM »

I think that means we're waiting on Endymion who has not replied since I hurt his feelings <.< I'm kind of waiting for his reply too.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #488 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:06:01 AM »

All quiet on the Western Front. Who knew that cutting the game population in half would reduce the number of people talking?

Eyes of 13 Sages (1): Endymion
Lord Pumpkinquiche (1): Selena Milfall
Endymion (1): Nuko Do Maron

Not voting: Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkinquiche, Choker Joker

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. You have under 46 hours to vote.

OOO · « **Reply #489 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:27:58 AM »

So what, you still suspect me? That's all I'm getting from you, since you can't just put out a straight answer like "X, and if not X, then Y"

Quit trying to skirt around the issue and actually say something that doesn't force me to read every post you've made so far for a single vague answer to a rather simple question. It's obtuse and obnoxious.

I'm still going to badger you (and Eyes/Joker while I'm at it) to put a vote or intent to vote down on someone. Nobody's at L-1 (or L-2 for that matter) and this shouldn't be an issue for anyone. Commit to a vote or else you look bad. It's not hard.

Kabuto · « **Reply #490 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:58:02 AM »

WELL WAIT FOR THE MASS CLAIMS CAUSE YOU AINT GETTIN ANY

Den-O · « **Reply #491 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:50:35 AM »

Sorry for the absence; I was really expecting to have more time to post these past few days but well etc. I'll be able to really sink my teeth into the game tomorrow I think given it's Friday and such.

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His D1 switch cuts the cake. After posting a giant wall on "Why I'm scum" he then kills my wagon and jumps on Dechronos for meta and calling him out for "not being online half the day.

Okay first off:
Saying I was using meta to push a case on Dechronos is whoopee when #1) I wasn't even using meta to push a case on Dechronos if you actually read my post and #2) it was six hours to deadline and we needed a lynch, so yes of course I switched. Honestly it would have been easy as pie to coast to the end of D1 by just parking my vote on Nuko or elsewhere (which is what Sept did now that I look at it) but if you lot want to punish people for TRYING TO SECURE LYNCHES go ahead and promote bad play. Look, I'm not even going to pretend I played a good game given the ways things have fallen out so far but really if you people are going to push stuff like this I don't see the point in wasting my time trying to convince you derps.

Re: my "buddying" and defending Pyoa yesterday. I'll go ahead and admit I'm not the bussing type as scum, but I know when to fucking cut my losses and toss my buddies. If I were scum yesterday when Pyoa was going down in flames I absolutely would have jumped ship to Pyoa so I didn't look like shit the next day. It would have been so fucking easy with Pyoa's last posts; I could have said DAMN THIS POST IS HORRIBLE YOU MUST BE SCUM, which is what other people ended up doing. The number of people doing this is what is suspect to me, because I've seen Pyoa's player lynched for pretty much the EXACT SAME THING as town; refusing to shut up and continuing to shoot himself in the foot. I saw a wagon being driven on terrible town while my righteous scum wagon bled dry and Nuko lurked out the rest of the day by using up his "quota" answering side questions. I stand by my statement yesterday that Pyoa could have cut 90% of the waffle from his post and then everyone wouldn't have wanted to lynch him for what is essentially posting style. I attributed it to him being town, so whatever; in hindsight he was probably trying to imitate his town posting style and it got him lynched. Call it WIFOM, but that's what I honestly thought.

Now that Sept flipped scum and seeing as he pretty much pushed Pyoa outright from the start of the day, I think Pyoa was pretty much going to be a sacrifice from the start; the fact that his wagon picked up steam so quickly at the end of the day while Pyoa kept on fluffposting unnecessarily sorta reinforces that. But I need to check the posts at the end of the day now and I haven't had time to do that yet. I actually have a case sorta written up from yesterday but then I realized I missed something important so >_> now I have to read more stuff.

If we're going a massclaim someone else confirm and I'll start first thing tomorrow morning. Gotta run like a champ for now.

Decade · « **Reply #492 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:54:06 AM »

Well I was going to wait for a claim but fukkit.

I'm debating if Selena would townread both of her partners and obvbuddy like this.
It may have just gone wrong when she supposed only one would flip since no one really suspected Septentrion.

The cases she makes just aren't good, nor do they push solid content.
I'm looking at the ones on Baron and Nuko from yesterday 317
I don't get how she praises Baron for fosing her townread Septentrion, while at the same time attacks him for the rest of his behavior. This is very discerning.
The rest of her post is townreading Nuko but then subtly foses the cat's behavior.

Going back further thanks to votecounts, her reason to get off of Pyoa AAAA was pretty lame. 277
For someone who came up with new original reasons to vote Pyoa, she sure was quick to just drop them and take up a lurker case such as mine. At the time anyway what her 277 laid out was solid for a day 1 read. She instead opts for a much weaker case based on shoddy interactions with no flips and because I was second fosed by everyone.
Given the current votecount:

Quote from: Kilga 293

Selena Milfall (0): El Bobomboi
Pyoa Aaaa (1): Selena Milfall, Septentrion Pleiades
Septentrion Pleiades (3): Nuko Do Maron, Baron Vladmu, Pope Cuckoobeater
Choker Joker (2): Pyoa Aaaa, Selena Milfall
Nuko do Maron (3): Endymion, Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkinquiche

Not voting: El Bobomboi, Choker Joker

It almost seems like a flagrant way to keep pressure off of a partner and to prevent it from building up to an end of day lynch wagon by placing it back to 1 vote.

When the time comes to get off of me since I was prodded and officially a lurker she decides to just drop everything on Pyoa and make an almost RVS vote for Baron:

Quote from: Selena Milfall on May 14, 2012, 03:36:18 AM

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##Vote: Baron Vladmu

this probably feels awkward but i promise reasoning when i get back.

Pyoa AAAA is conveniently ignored for the rest of the day without any followup even though she laid out a sound case on him.

This all seems far more damning than the raw emotion playing from Endymion but I will finish an iso on him and see if I still find this true.
I do think Selena is scum though so we should all unvote and get on this.

##Vote: Selena Milfall

Decade · « **Reply #493 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:59:07 AM »

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277 laid out was solid for a day 1 read.

ERRRR that was day 2. Disregard this point everyone but, the rest still stands.

Sasword · « **Reply #494 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:21:26 AM »

I supose I should. I haven't quite decided who I want to vote. I think if I were to vote at this exact moment of time it would be between Choker and Selena, which I keep ruling out to myself, hence not putting a vote down until I can decide why I keep coming back to this. I am having doubts about Endymion!scum. Not discussing anything until we start claiming it up would be bad though. Let me find something for us to discuss.

I thought I'd point out to Selena that Quiche did indeed switch to Pyoa, then switched back onto the Giant Cat here, so this balancing out the wagon thing I don't get. The end of day votecount is right there so.. I'd also like to know why here you basically forgot that you really wanted Pyoa dead the entire time when his wagon was picking up?

For Endymion, I will point to this post and ask him what caused him to choose Nuko do Maron over Septentrion at the time despite seeming to dislike Septentrion quite severely? You even say ~mod meta~ makes me town here so perhaps you should reread yourself and remember what you were thinking. Cut by get back here you bastard. -.-

For Mr. Joker.

Quote from: Choker Joker on May 15, 2012, 02:24:07 AM

Septentrion Pleiades makes a decent case on Eyes of Sages in 166 that I agree with. I disagree with the amount focused on the unvote but that's personal preference.
Thus I dislike the eyes and give Septentrion Pleidades a slight townread for. I find myself also nodding in agreement with her comments towards Bobomoi.

If I were to vote it'd be Endimon > Eyes > ~~~ null region~~~ > everyone else.

I forget if I asked this before but I'm pretty sure I didn't get a straight answer. What exactly about the case Septentrion made on me was decent and why did you agree with it? Why was I scummy for what someone else had said? Also, why does it seem like you never read Pyoa's Day 1 posts?

Massclaim. We're doing it mans. We're making it happen. Endymion get back here -.-

Skull · « **Reply #495 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:34:51 AM »

@choker joker

well if you think my ideas on baron (possible to praise content while disagreeing with it) and nuko weren't good then so be it but im surprised you thought my case on Pyoa Aaaa was any good after his response invalidated it.

would like you to explain how my Pyoa case (e.g choosing Dechronos over Eyes despite not ordering them) was valid after Pyoa's response (e.g Dechronos had no vote on him then and thus thought would be a better use of his vote) and why I should have carried on pressing that point when i disagreed with the latter day 1 reasons for voting Pyoa.

you can't be serious that your predecessor's play is solid enough to be taboo as a lynch candidate. while the interactions thing was shoddy enough by itself, the bread and butter reasons i put out in day one still stood in my case against him.

can't complain about your other points though; but i don't think i would be sad enough as scum to go onto pyoa, only to plan to drop him through some cue on his part and call attention onto myself.

Skull · « **Reply #496 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:36:36 AM »

urgh someone fix tags.

eyes, i meant that quiche balanced the wagons by switching back to nuko from pyoa aaaa. typo on my part. also, see above for the explanation as to why i dropped him. can't really change the fact that i did not make a concrete decision between nuko and pyoa however.

OOO · « **Reply #497 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:05:19 AM »

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Lord Dechronos smells like a repeat of the last time he pulled this schtick

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I've seen Pyoa's player lynched for pretty much the EXACT SAME THING as town

It's still reliance on meta, which I still disapprove of because THIS IS AN ANON GAME.

If your meta sense is so good, what do you think of me when you consider meta from MY previous games?

Decade · « **Reply #498 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:13:40 AM »

Eye Sage: Septentrion's case appealed to me through my reads that your poke towards me early way kinda a stab in the lurkers in my initial read.
It appealed to me since my playerslot was a lurker and you seemed to be getting Pyoa and I at random from what I could read but apparently that wasn't so.

I didn't really read Pyoa's posts because I covered the ones that looked interesting to me or had good points and he never had any of these qualities.
Of course now I just gloss over them because he is scum and taking any of his points into account will always bear caution of wine with it so that's the main reason now.

Selena: No I don't blame you for poking my player slot. I do blame you for coming up with new legitimate reasons to pursue Pyoa but choosing to ignore them once my case as a replacement became apparent.
You were unimpressed with Pyoa's content and never noted if he satisfied you or not.
And you didn't like him for sheeping without clear reasoning.
You never elaborated on either of these which, from someone who was getting scum reads from Pyoa I figured you would and see how he turned out from it.
The third reason you want me to explain is weaker than the first two and I can drop it for him having a legitimate reason to not me over me etc.
But I do feel you should have followed up with the first two which is why you are scummy.

Again I do not call my past self's play the epitome of town but I do feel you shouldn't have dropped your case on Pyoa for me and a weak Baron case.

As scum, you having dropped Pyoa would be an buddy tell you could work with if Septentrion hadn't flipped but I feel it's more revealing having partner tells such as this now so you are that sad.

Nuko can you explain who you're talking about and who it's directed to?

OOO · « **Reply #499 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:17:38 AM »

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Nuko lurked out the rest of the day by using up his "quota" answering side questions.

Also are you also REALLY still parading this? I had a Post Restriction, and I did what I could with the words I had. I was still able to make a stance with what I could, and considering there was a GIGANTIC BLOODY WAGON on me, NOT putting some words down to defend myself would have been the death of me. So I used a couple words here and there to answer some obvious questions. Big deal. The impact on the word count as whole was rather minimal.

Obviously it wasn't some retarded gambit because I'm no longer posting under a PR, and giving myself a fake PR in the first place would have been totally hypocritical.

Also this and the former post are directed at Endymon

Skull · « **Reply #500 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:22:29 AM »

pope was cool
deranged eternally
smirking and laughing
fevered dancing
platinum collection 1990
fated to be dated
seeking a second coming

seeking a return to forever
styled with looks to kill
meekly dead though.

Decade · « **Reply #501 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:30:30 AM »

Uhh I'm going to bed since I think Endymoin is still pushing his horrible case on the cat?
There's no way that's serious right.

Or Nuko is just reinforcing his Endymion case?

Skull · « **Reply #502 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:37:30 AM »

i still don't think my case on pyoa was stronger than my case on baron (secondary side suspicions that did not go anywhere) or even you. bad or waffly content alone (of course it did not satisfy me or anyone) doesn't mean anything due to player meta.

i think my role can prove myself as town, but we will see.

Skull · « **Reply #503 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:40:45 AM »

i request that i claim right after endymion.

Sasword · « **Reply #504 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:16:37 AM »

Endymion is currently voting me. :V I kind of hope he's not serious about that either.

Sasword · « **Reply #505 on:** May 18, 2012, 08:58:59 AM »

On another note, and this isn't a shot at your alignment this time, but Choker ignoring the posts of the two flipped scum is a bad idea. One of the scum is super-biased (Pyoa always had Septentrion as a suspect for practically no reason) and the other one thrives on driving buses through their partners. I will be kind of annoyed if I'm the only one checking them.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #506 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:06:08 PM »

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Eyes of 13 Sages (1): Endymion
Lord Pumpkinquiche (1): Selena Milfall
Endymion (1): Nuko Do Maron
Selena Milfall (1): Choker Joker

Not voting: Eyes of 13 Sages, Lord Pumpkinquiche

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. You have under 33 hours to vote.

Den-O · « **Reply #507 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:22:17 PM »

Don't have much time right now but you're still not making sense about the meta thing and I'm not even pushing Nuko right now anyway. >______________> I'll be able to explain in full later.

Anyway I'm a Town Private Eye. Basically I'm a non consecutive doc.
Night One Target: El Bobomboi --> Obvious target
Night Two Target: Septentrion Pleiades --> Everyone else sucked. I have my ideas about what happened this night but that can wait for later

Selena wants to go next so I guess she can? I want Eyes to claim ALL abilities when it's their turn though.

OOO · « **Reply #508 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:06:16 PM »

Wait, If you doc'd Sep, then why is she dead? That doesn't actually make any sense.

Skull · « **Reply #509 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:39:10 PM »

Endymion, flavour? How does an eye protect people.

I am a Town Shiniwanabi. I can use the art of soul reading to find the role name of a target every night. In addition, if I use my ability to target the same person on consecutive nights, I get to know his alignment.

N1 I targeted Nuko de Marron, but the odd thing is that the result was that she was a pussyfeather, not a pussyfoot, which is the reason why I was skeptical over her claim. I'm not sure if it is a mistake or whatever, but I didn't think it really significant since she claimed she was vanilla anyway.

N2 I targeted Endymion and he turned out to be a Private Eye. I crumbed it in my gibberish post above; the third letter of every line spells Private Eye.

I am able to prove my role tomorrow by targeting and giving a role name of a living person, since I don't think the last remaining scum would be able to NK and use their role at the same time (unless scum happens to NK the person I target). Thus I would request that no one else give their rolenames for the rest of the claims.