Author Topic: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)  (Read 85202 times)

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes
« Reply #90 on: May 08, 2012, 03:38:52 AM »
2-1, 100.67
This run used the vertical format for the first photo, even though the horizontal format might have been slightly better.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20928

3-4, 95.59
I moved in front of the reflected bullets this time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20929


3-4, 96.02
I moved in front of the reflected bullets this time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20932

4-7, 94.37
Micro-dodging makes taking the fourth photo quickly a bit challenging.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20930
« Last Edit: May 08, 2012, 05:23:10 AM by Ridley 64 »

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes
« Reply #91 on: May 08, 2012, 05:15:09 PM »
5-7, 100.35
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20938

Do you guys think not breaking the charge to dodge the fist before the final photo is possible? Maybe sitting against the right edge of the screen makes it take longer to reach you.

4-5, 101.10
Horizontal alignment for the first shot, then moving into one of the safespots to not get pushed away by the bullets. Getting into a safespot again for the third photo could probably make it faster.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20940

6-6, 98.73
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20944

6-5. 100.90
There's still lots of room for improvement, it's possible to catch enough laser in the third shot to refill to at least 11%
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20945
« Last Edit: May 08, 2012, 09:52:15 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes
« Reply #92 on: May 09, 2012, 07:20:39 AM »
4-4, 62.25
Doing the card as intended and just trying to be as fast as possible with the last photo.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20958

7-6, 87.24
Vertical for the first photo and horizontal for the rest. Different combinations might yield different results.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20959

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes
« Reply #93 on: May 09, 2012, 01:29:49 PM »
Well, it looks like all scenes are done now! This has been lots of fun to participate in this and I am very impressed by the level of optimization you guys achieved.

This challenge felt novel to me, I've previously attempted some scoring, but usually it's way too hard to get a competitive score, so it's not all that gratifying, this on the other hand requires a whole different mindset, and since the concept is so new you get to set the bar yourself, which allows for more casual play.
I really liked the way 4-6 and 2-4 turned out, even if they can be quite a bit faster, I'm happy with the strategy used, it was fun figuring out and playing those scenes. I believe 5-8 is the scene which I spent the least shots in before submitting, only 50ish (edit: looks like 11-4, EX-3 and 10-1 took even fewer shots). Improving Zil's 10-7 took me almost 700 shots and I did something like 650 in 9-1 before accepting the one defensive shot attempt (feel free to improve this one for me).

I haven't watched all the submissions, but from the few I watched I really liked Seiga's 12-8 and 8-3, Ridley's 3-4, Apathy's 7-1 and ihavenoname's 12-2!

Big thanks to ihavenoname for the initiative!
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 02:04:28 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes
« Reply #94 on: May 09, 2012, 03:14:23 PM »
Well, just because all the scenes have a time doesn't mean that improvements can't keep coming in (in fact keep improvements coming if you get any).

Updating the table now, and besides, future updates of the table will be easier since I won't have to add any new entries  :V

Also wow this took a lot less time than I expected and had a lot more interest than I expected.

Scenes that could use improvements: 9-1 (cut out the defensive shot), 11-2 (nothing there yet...)

EDIT: as this draws closer to submission, I have to ask what you want to be referred to on SDA as.  The standard [first name] "[username]" [last name], although the real name can be omitted.  If I don't get a response by submission time (should be weeks from now, if not later due to IRL stuff) I'm just going to go with your current MoTK username.  Additionally, if you want to write some short comments on the overall part post those here too, they'll be included in the overall run comments.

SuccinctAndPunchy

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Alright then, since no-one did 11-2, I subjected myself to it just for the sake of filling the blank spot.

The run's absolutely goddamn awful and improvable in nigh on every regard, it's here to fill the spot and nothing more.

11-2: 153.97

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20966

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then now 9-1 and 11-2 need improvements.

On a related note, anyone ever notice how stupid 11-2 is, with its micrododging of random trajectory bullets?

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>Tries 11-2.

HOW DO YOU SPEEDRUN THIS

I just got a ~154.5 and barely.

11-2, 160.26
Second photo is tricky, played it too safe for the last two shots.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20968

Go with Giant Catfish as my name in the SDA submission, can I also revise some earlier submission comments? I'd like to make them more accurate and useful.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 06:30:34 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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I've been trying 11-2 for a while, scored my first clear of it but haven't gotten past photo 4

-cut-

THANK YOU CATFISH

Now only 9-1 improvement remains (although other improvements are still welcome)

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lol thank you indeed.

You literally have to charge through walls of bullets before taking the second shot. Such a luckfest...

No problem  :V

Here's some advice on how to NOT do 9-1 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20970

I hope you guys have better luck there...
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Zil

10-7, 167.72
I watched Catfish's run and decided I could be more agressive with my own path.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20973

Improving Zil's 10-7 took me almost 700 shots
I'm sorry! :ohdear:

Chuckolator

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http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20974

4-6, 97.99

I spent more time trying to push it above 98 than I did to beat the original record, if someone can figure out why it opened up for me like that at the end I'm sure it can be beaten.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20978

2-1, 100.73
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 10:15:32 PM by Seiga Kaku »
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Best perfects so far include UFO 6, MoF 4 and IN 6A.

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I'm sorry! :ohdear:

It's ok, that's a pretty big improvement. And its not like I disliked playing that scene   :V

I spent more time trying to push it above 98 than I did to beat the original record, if someone can figure out why it opened up for me like that at the end I'm sure it can be beaten.

Oh man, how can you be that fast? I really liked the top of the screen shenanigans too, oh well. It looks seriously fast now though.

7-2, 84.73
Perhaps fiddling with the camera orientation will yield better results.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20977
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2012, 10:39:40 PM »
Oh man, how can you be that fast? I really liked the top of the screen shenanigans too, oh well. It looks seriously fast now though.
I never watched your replay before I beat it, that's actually pretty cool.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20979

6-1, 95.85

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20980

10-3, 167.46

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20981

10-1, 174.07
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 11:07:53 PM by Seiga Kaku »
Aiming to perfect every stage in Touhou. loljk don't care anymore You can find my perfects here or here.
Best perfects so far include UFO 6, MoF 4 and IN 6A.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2012, 11:31:48 PM »
6-1, 96.08
Catching lasers seems to take priority over quick shots.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20982

I hope at least some of my scenes will remain until submission time  :ohdear:
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #107 on: May 09, 2012, 11:35:26 PM »
can we at least get a 9-1 here  :V
I just tried to beat it to see the last phase, and it took me 150 seconds to clear >.>

and catfish, I tallied, you have about 40 scenes.  No way all of those will get beaten by submission, and even if they do, you still set over half the benchmarks.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2012, 11:38:31 PM »
No one's be beating my 6-7.  8)

I'd play 9-1 if it weren't fgdgsfdgsdfgds what is this

I mean it IS possible without defensive shots but the precision needed makes me hurl.

Chuckolator

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #109 on: May 09, 2012, 11:46:46 PM »
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20984

9-4, 172.12

Still plenty of room or improvement I think. You know I didn't care about scoring before when my speedrun beats my original clear by 35%.
Aiming to perfect every stage in Touhou. loljk don't care anymore You can find my perfects here or here.
Best perfects so far include UFO 6, MoF 4 and IN 6A.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #110 on: May 09, 2012, 11:49:33 PM »
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20985

9-1, 161.89

oh my god satori...

edit: oops wrong format

edit 2: i guess i'll write a description

The first 3 pictures aren't much of a problem at all. Sometimes I'd get clipped by those tiny white bullets, but it's not a big deal. The fourth picture probably pissed me off the most. I barely have enough time to react, and most of my runs ended with 99% on that picture. The fifth isn't nearly as bad. The last 3 is just pattern recognition, but I thought I got really lucky with moving before taking that last picture. 162 is possible, but have fun trying to get that :V
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 11:57:11 PM by Random »

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(need 9-1 improvement)
« Reply #111 on: May 09, 2012, 11:52:19 PM »
9-1, 161.89

oh my god satori...

Like a boss!
"you never know, you may have the best strats in the world" - Zil

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Do you guys know what Random just did?

got a solid run of the 108th scene

 :toot: :toot: :toot:
Double Spoiler IL table V1: done

Will update tomorrow because no time tonight

Everyone who contributed, check the first post for what I need now.

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Do you guys know what Random just did?

got a solid run of the 108th scene

 :toot: :toot: :toot:
Double Spoiler IL table V1: done

Will update tomorrow because no time tonight

Everyone who contributed, check the first post for what I need now.

Great job everyone!! You guys are all fantastic and dedicated players. I'm just glad I could contribute a couple of my own since I'm really not that good at the photo games and have barely beaten half of the scenes in that game at all.

You can put in my SDA account name, ExPorygon, down along with my alias here and my real name (you know it already).

Chuckolator

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Put me down as 3266442. So far I've kept myself anonymous, and I'd like to keep it that way. >_>

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20987

9-8, 196.13

Beat the old record by over 15 seconds, I'm proud of this one. I can't see this one improving much more.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20988

12-8, 254.99

Small improvement over my old one.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20989

11-7, 176.35
« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 02:34:42 AM by Seiga Kaku »
Aiming to perfect every stage in Touhou. loljk don't care anymore You can find my perfects here or here.
Best perfects so far include UFO 6, MoF 4 and IN 6A.

formerly known as Seiga Kaku

5-3, 87.87
Not sure if it's better to take the first photo right away or wait to capture the first fist (which I did).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20992

5-6, 94.88
Two shots on the first pass and the last three on the next pass.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20993

6-4, 100.72
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20994

9-4, 172.34
I plan the first five photos and just try to stay alive for the rest. Have to be aggressive on the last photo.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20995

10-5, 167.15
This is what I came up with.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20996

I'll go by "Ridley 64".

I have no name

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I've posted a quality test of 12-6, so I'll soon know if I have to re-do that one.
Waiting on responses from Apathy, catfish, Zil, Zodiac and BT still.

Keep those improvements coming, trying to beat some of these got me to clear 8 scenes I'd never done before in the past week alone.

Chuckolator

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« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 06:19:29 AM by Seiga Kaku »
Aiming to perfect every stage in Touhou. loljk don't care anymore You can find my perfects here or here.
Best perfects so far include UFO 6, MoF 4 and IN 6A.

formerly known as Seiga Kaku

BT

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Dan and BT should be enough, I hope.

Stop breaking my records. :U

SP-3, 114.87
What happens if you get photographed at the same frame that you finish of the last photo yourself? It's possible to catch you own death animation in the shot so...
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21006

Sent you the info I have no name, I hope that it's good.
"you never know, you may have the best strats in the world" - Zil

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