Author Topic: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)  (Read 85197 times)

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(deadline is July 5th)
« Reply #270 on: July 04, 2012, 03:29:50 PM »
3-6, 100.16
I'm very happy with this route.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22293
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(deadline is July 5th)
« Reply #271 on: July 05, 2012, 10:42:21 PM »
do this quickly so nobody can steal my records It's the 5th, I take it you'll start recording soon?
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(deadline is July 5th)
« Reply #272 on: July 05, 2012, 11:00:29 PM »
do this quickly so nobody can steal my records It's the 5th, I take it you'll start recording soon?
Yep, I have a bunch of stuff I need to catch up on but I should start recording within the next few days...hopefully.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(deadline is July 5th)
« Reply #273 on: July 10, 2012, 02:40:55 AM »
Just popping in to add recording hasn't started as of yet, I've had a problem with my recording quality as of late and so until I get that fixed I guess keep the ILs coming.

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #274 on: July 12, 2012, 08:21:33 AM »
3-6, 100.26
I'm not sure what to make of this, looks like there's still room for improvement here.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22473

8-1, 128.58
Not sure if occasional stalling is worth the 35% charge refill. But I'm sure this can be pushed further.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22474

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5-4, 95.28
Catching both anchors in the first shot. Still not at all convinced that my strategy is sound for this scene.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22476

Using another computer and vsync patch for these submissions, I hope vsync usage is ok.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2012, 02:13:41 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes(deadline is July 5th)
« Reply #275 on: July 15, 2012, 06:26:27 PM »
Just popping in to add recording hasn't started as of yet, I've had a problem with my recording quality as of late and so until I get that fixed I guess keep the ILs coming.
Table updated with every entry thus far.

I also fixed my recording quality, so I'll start recording the ILs within the next few days.

I do have one final question: since the SDA submission will have to be the original game sound, for the DSDQ video (on my channel) do you guys want:
1. original sound  (no editing required)
2. new music, no sound effects  (requires some editing but it's not a huge deal anyway)
3. new music, sound effects  (requires recording every IL again without game music)

If 2 or 3, music suggestions?  I was thinking 1 song per stage, the song being the theme of one of the characters in the stage,

If I have to record twice I'm going to do the DSDQ versions first.

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #276 on: July 15, 2012, 07:27:35 PM »
Great!

I would like to see a 3-5 min highlight video tightly edited to a song, something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0Sub0sk5o

If that isn't an option then I'd like to have an unedited video with original sound just to get the full experience available on youtube.

But I'd prefer to have both  :V
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #277 on: July 15, 2012, 07:34:07 PM »
I think that's asking a bit too much. :V

IMO don't switch songs for every scene since that would be kinda awkward. Just have a few songs one after another for the whole thing, if you're changing sound in the first place. I don't think I'll object to the original. More boring, sure, but I'd definitely still watch it.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #278 on: July 15, 2012, 07:38:38 PM »
Original sound imo, I could't imagine listening to the video without it.
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #279 on: July 15, 2012, 07:40:36 PM »
IMO don't switch songs for every scene since that would be kinda awkward. Just have a few songs one after another for the whole thing, if you're changing sound in the first place. I don't think I'll object to the original. More boring, sure, but I'd definitely still watch it.
I was going to have a different song for every stage in that case, so 1-1 through 1-6 would have the same song playing through.
But I'd prefer to have both  :V
The SDA submission will have the original music

Original sound imo, I could't imagine listening to the video without it.
Does that also include original music (a.k.a. beginning of Infinite Nightmare 30 or so times)

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #280 on: July 15, 2012, 07:50:08 PM »
Does that also include original music (a.k.a. beginning of Infinite Nightmare 30 or so times)
imo the best solution would be just playing the respective BGM over the respective stages so it has a chance to play through, but that's just way too much work. <_<

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #281 on: July 15, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »
That falls under option 3, playing the corresponding music over the video.
Really, I don't mind adding different music in, I suppose I just want to know if alternate music is more important than the sound effects, or if recording everything twice if worth having both.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (almost ready to record)
« Reply #282 on: July 16, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »
 :ohdear:
I've started recording but CPU usage is keeping me from recording any more right now (1-1 and 1-2 are done though, with luck I should be done recording by the end of the month)

edit: a couple hours of being in sleep mode let me get through the rest of Stage 1 without incident, although the volume is a little quiet, it won't be for stages 2-SP, and it is audible anyway.

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(triple post)
I'm definitely going with the third option, recording everything twice wouldn't take too long.
In terms of the music choices, most of them are picked already.

I'll still accept any further ILs for stages I haven't recorded-that's anything Stage 3 onwards as of right now, though I'll likely record Stage 3 tonight.

(triple post)
I'm definitely going with the third option, recording everything twice wouldn't take too long.
In terms of the music choices, most of them are picked already.

I'll still accept any further ILs for stages I haven't recorded-that's anything Stage 3 onwards as of right now, though I'll likely record Stage 3 tonight.

Good to hear that it's coming together now, do you know if people from this forum can help verify the levels?
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Good to hear that it's coming together now, do you know if people from this forum can help verify the levels?
Yes-you can verify the levels you didn't do.
Because verifying your own stages would be biased  :V

5-2, 96.73
97.xx is attainable.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22633

5-2, 97.15
97.xx attained.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22635

8-3, 137.38
The charge cooldown after taking a shot is perfect for finding a space where the fairies won't reach you.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22637

Yes-you can verify the levels you didn't do.
Because verifying your own stages would be biased  :V

Nice. I might do that if there are few verifiers then, I'm totally looking forward to having this submitted.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 08:33:20 AM by 大ナマズ様 »
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8-3, 137.38
damn, someone finally remembered that one existed <_<

Good job on that one, that one was torture because one bad move by Orin or one of the fairies would kill me.
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damn, someone finally remembered that one existed <_<

Good job on that one, that one was torture because one bad move by Orin or one of the fairies would kill me.

Thanks, I must say, that sounds just like every scene I've speedrun thus far. Except replace "torture" with "fun", "Orin" with "the boss" and "one of the fairies" by "some danmaku" :P

7-2, 84.94
Just going with horizontal alignment because it seems it gives more recharge more consistently.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22674

12-3, 174.48
I'd say 175.xx is realistic with this route as I was a bit slow with the last few photos and you could always shoot the second earlier, even if that means smaller chance of survival.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22675
« Last Edit: July 21, 2012, 04:30:33 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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You'd better pull off that 11-2 strat.
Can't submit the original run for the stage  :]

You'd better pull off that 11-2 strat.
Can't submit the original run for the stage  :]

 :ohdear:

Oh no. What have I done?

>_>
<_<
Random could do it... it's just rock hard dodging.
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Went on a bit of a recording binge today...

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None of these have been edited down yet but they're all ~1GB files so it's no big deal.

edit: editing down as i type.
edit 2: Recorded 5 more scenes.

Bump...

Good to see things are moving forwards.

Figured I could post my personal speedrunning highlights here. I re-uploaded it to improve the video quality.

If anyone wants to beat the 11-2 go right ahead.
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Scenes that can be improved: 10-8, 11-2, some others.

Scenes recorded: 50/108
Recorded stage 8.  58/108 scenes recorded, in number I'm more than halfway there, but in time I'm not quite halfway there.
Recorded Stage 9 and 10-1 before deciding to call it a night.  Tomorrow morning I'm going through 11-1, leaving 11-2 until the night so it can be improved.  67/108 scenes recorded.

11-2, 165.63
Going through with a much faster strategy. With a shot count of 2200 this scene is definitely the one which I put most effort into.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22911

Are you happy now?

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EX-5, 175.40
This scene is harder than it might look.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22912

That's a 9 second improvement in EX-5. And you thought 11-2 needed improvement? >_>

We must be getting close to sub 45 now, right?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 10:13:15 AM by 大ナマズ様 »
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I'm holding off on recording 10-8 scene in the hopes that someone will beat it (hint hint)

Current total time is 45:28.78.  I'm not sure there's another 28 seconds to be had honestly.

I'm holding off on recording 10-8 scene in the hopes that someone will beat it (hint hint)

Current total time is 45:28.78.  I'm not sure there's another 28 seconds to be had honestly.

I tried 10-8 a bit, and while I can get somewhere between 0.25-0.5 seconds ahead at the third shot, this creates a bottleneck of sorts because there aren't enough bullets on the screen to refill the charge. Did you not get this problem (I'm sure the loss in charge isn't bigger than the time saved by fast shots though)?
I'm pretty sure with higher calibre players sub 45 could be taken. Like, if Baity would have joined in on this I have a hard time seeing myself holding any scenes at all :P
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I tried 10-8 a bit, and while I can get somewhere between 0.25-0.5 seconds ahead at the third shot, this creates a bottleneck of sorts because there aren't enough bullets on the screen to refill the charge. Did you not get this problem (I'm sure the loss in charge isn't bigger than the time saved by fast shots though)?
I did have that happen as well, and it's not worth waiting.  If you're that far ahead at the 3rd shot then you can definitely beat it.

Recorded 16 (!) more scenes, everything from 11 and 12.  Meaning only 19 scenes are left to be recorded, 10-8, and all of extra and spoiler!

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #298 on: August 01, 2012, 11:47:17 AM »
EX-7, 170.47
Most interesting EX-scene, and one of the most interesting scenes to speedrun in the whole game IMO. This is as far as I am willing to push this scene, but know that if you do things differently in the Reimu-manipulation setting up the fourth shot, you could probably push it to 172.xx. That would involve passing several red rings on top of getting lucky with Reimu's attack position, I am not even remotely consistent at dodging more than one ring at once which is why I don't go for that.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22934

Sorry Ihavenoname, I'm not doing 10-8, too much effort for too little gain, I'm fairly sure most of my already submitted could be improved by 0.25 seconds given a dedicated runner.

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SP-6, 181.95
By going up higher on the screen when possible I increase the chance of getting off fast photos (because Aya can move within reach on her own).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22939
« Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 03:31:09 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #299 on: August 02, 2012, 12:41:01 AM »
SP-6, 182.57
Moving up along the sides when possible.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22953

Also, I tied 10-8. Is it really just a matter of camera orientation (vertical first, horizontal rest)? My only other clear was 176.70, so I'm wondering if there's anything else to it.