Author Topic: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!) (Read 85197 times)

I have no name · « **Reply #210 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:12:19 AM »

Quote from: 大ナマズ様 on May 17, 2012, 01:56:45 AM

Another little batch of replays here. Filenames state the scene and time.

This kind of submission is honestly a lot harder for me to work with than the gensoyko.org upload. it would honestly be better to name the replays after the scene, without the time since I get the time from the post.

ARF · « **Reply #211 on:** May 17, 2012, 03:37:09 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 17, 2012, 02:12:19 AM

This kind of submission is honestly a lot harder for me to work with than the gensoyko.org upload. it would honestly be better to name the replays after the scene, without the time since I get the time from the post.

Alright, I just didn't feel like spamming the uploader with so much at once. I looked at 7-4 more today and found that you can combine the top of the screen switch with the 2 shots in first cycle method and potentially save about 2 seconds over the current best. I'm not too consistent with getting off 2 shots in the first cycle though, so I'll leave that to someone who is more trigger happy.

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10-1, 174.25
There are easier ways to dodge through the bubbles, but they are also slower, improvements on this strategy include snapping the third photo earlier and charging more before slipping through the bubbles, dodging more/all waves like this might save a second or so.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21218

8-7, 129,37
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21219

Random · « **Reply #212 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:33:21 PM »

Quote from: 大ナマズ様 on May 17, 2012, 03:37:09 PM

I looked at 7-4 more today and found that you can combine the top of the screen switch with the 2 shots in first cycle method and potentially save about 2 seconds over the current best

Almost 3 seconds.

7-4, 96.11
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21224

Thanks for the idea, ARF.

ARF · « **Reply #213 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Random on May 17, 2012, 10:33:21 PM

Almost 3 seconds.

7-4, 96.11
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21224

Thanks for the idea, ARF.

No problem! Amazing execution there! :0

3-1, 99.65
This scene really comes down to favorable boss movements, perhaps even 101.xx can be attained?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21225

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #214 on:** May 18, 2012, 05:40:55 AM »

SP-3, 115.02
Waiting to catch some of her bullets seems like a good idea.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21231

SP-7, 183.03
Getting away after the first photo can be tricky, but the rest is straightforward.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21232

SP-8, 176.27
Better anticipation of Aya's moves would help here.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21233

ARF · « **Reply #215 on:** May 19, 2012, 08:40:13 PM »

3-5, 95.00
Freestyling. No through the rainbow goodness, but when the time is this nice and even I don't mind.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21271

3-8, 96.03
Getting a great time here depends on how many umbrellas you can catch, I'm not sure if it matters for the first one, since getting more means waiting (possibly getting 2 is faster than 1/0 but I haven't checked). I've gotten 5 in the second photo a couple of times, and in this run I got 6 in the second to last. I'm not sure exactly how the umbrellas work, but it seems like you can manipulate their movements to some degree.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21270

8-4, 85.52
Playing it normally, has room for improvement, is snapping a photo before the sun spawns at the third or fourth photo viable?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21272

8-6, 93.03
A faster strategy, might be viable for the second photo too (much more annoying to play like that though).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21273

EX-3, 178.05
Faster strategy, only slightly harder since the last phase remains unchanged. Perhaps horizontal camera orientation will help too.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21274

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9-6, 226.80
One sexy dodge in the second phase (which is otherwise poorly executed).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21276

... did that actually save 16 seconds? D:

I have no name · « **Reply #216 on:** May 19, 2012, 09:12:32 PM »

Update set up through this post, will hopefully do by the end of the night.

Also, I'll need a final time when I should start recording these, this will be either June 30th or after a week of no new submissions. After this point, I'll begin recording. Once a scene is recorded, I will not be adding improvements of it to the table...until Double Spoiler Done Quicker?

Random · « **Reply #217 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:39:30 PM »

EX-3, 178.12
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21279
I knew I was doing something wrong :V

now back to sa lunatic ultra

I have no name · « **Reply #218 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:50:15 PM »

Table updated.

ARF · « **Reply #219 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:00:49 AM »

Resubmitting this since the edit was missed.

9-6, 226.80
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21276

I was wondering when the recording was to begin, good to know.

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1-2, 76.62
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21297

1-3, 76.20
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21314

1-5, 70.15
Should be relatively easy to beat by sitting at the top half of the screen and catching more bullets.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21315

3-7, 104.01
Speedrunning this scene is odd.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21317

10-3, 168.05
Messed up the second to last photo.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21322

12-4, 170.65
Going ahead of the cycle seems to be counterproductive, but maybe something can be done to avoid the last wave?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21299

EX-9, 149.11
I'm still not sure if stalling before the final phase the way to go, there might be a way to handle it more efficiently.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21300

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #220 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:43:46 AM »

1-2, 76.65
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21334

1-3, 76.25
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21335

1-5, 70.21
Not the top-half approach, but I did try to stay close so I could capture more bullets.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21336

7-6, 87.48
Mostly horizontal. I switch to vertical twice when the gold starts piling up.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21337

ARF · « **Reply #221 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:27:12 PM »

7-1, 85.59
Waiting for lasers before snapping photos in the first phase seems to be the best way, not trying my luck in the last phase though, staying way back.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21347

8-1, 128.05
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21348

Chuckolator · « **Reply #222 on:** May 23, 2012, 02:33:36 AM »

ffffffffffffffffff

5134 shots and this is my best. At least I know this route works. <_<

7th shot is .49 quicker than Ridley's. why does 8th shot hate me

.32, .23, .30, 7th shots all quicker. koishi why

ARF · « **Reply #223 on:** May 24, 2012, 03:09:39 PM »

10000 on one scene is crazy, I have like 25000 shots in total across all scenes :/ I hope you get it, the more optimization the more awesome this submission will be.

4-2, 96.16
I still don't have the pattern of the small bullets all figured out.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21390

5-8, 96.46
I didn't expect to survive that.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21392

Random · « **Reply #224 on:** May 25, 2012, 12:57:20 AM »

1-5, 70.28
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21398

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #225 on:** May 25, 2012, 02:55:03 AM »

Quote from: Random on May 25, 2012, 12:57:20 AM

1-5, 70.28
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21398

Is this the right replay? It says 70.22 at the end instead.

1-5, 70.24 (if needed)
All vertical this time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21400

I have no name · « **Reply #226 on:** May 25, 2012, 03:00:16 AM »

*is being lazy about updating table
*is trying to get somewhat close to the Ape Escape speedrun time
*is working on 2 game dev projects simultaneously
*Touhou is running at 30 FPS

I'll get to it after I restart my computer, which will happen...as soon as I don't have un-savable stuff up.

Random · « **Reply #227 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:27:45 AM »

1-3, 76.27
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21401

Quote from: Ridley 64 on May 25, 2012, 02:55:03 AM

Is this the right replay? It says 70.22 at the end instead.

What the

Oh well, I improved it anyway

1-5, 70.30
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21403
Fucking Shizuha, always moving as far away as possible on the last shot.

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #228 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:38:03 AM »

1-3, 76.35
The angle of the second photo probably helped.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21407

1-5, 70.37
Using horizontal tilt for the middle two photos this time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21408

SP-6, 181.23
A photo taken in each "round," which requires Aya to cooperate in her movements. Too low and you'll probably be cornered; too high or on the opposite side and you won't be able to escape the next shot.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21409

Random · « **Reply #229 on:** May 25, 2012, 09:44:47 PM »

FRAME WARS

~~1-3, 76.36~~
~~http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21416~~

1-3, 76.40
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21417

1-5, 70.38
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21415

Oh my god I'm a jerk :V

This post has too many edits.

8-5, 129.35
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21420
No waiting around.

Sorry Ozzy.

I have no name · « **Reply #230 on:** May 26, 2012, 08:12:48 AM »

HAMMER SHUSH

...

I just wanted to do that.
Anyway, edits before this post will be missed in the next update.
Don't say I didn't warn you.

Also keep the improvements coming as long as you have frame wars to improve.

k, table updated through here, same as always.

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #231 on:** May 26, 2012, 09:44:37 PM »

1-4 should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21104
3-6?s time is reported as 97.67 on the replay page
8-7 should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21219
10-6 should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21114
11-1 should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21100
11-2?s time is reported as 160.26 on the replay page
12-7 should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21121

SP-4, 87.09
After the first photo, I move up and alternate sides. Don't know for sure if that's the fastest way, but it seems to work.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21439

SP-6, 181.23 (resubmitting)
A photo taken in each "round," which requires Aya to cooperate in her movements. Too low and you'll probably be cornered; too high or on the opposite side and you won't be able to escape the next shot.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21409

I have no name · « **Reply #232 on:** May 26, 2012, 10:00:23 PM »

fixed all of those.
I didn't realize how many mistakes I made early on.

SP-6 will be put in with the next round of updates, I did warn people not to edit in before that post.

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #233 on:** May 27, 2012, 12:25:03 AM »

Oh, I thought I got the edit in before the update. No problem

7-7, 84.43
I made more efforts to double focus when I could. It's possible to squeeze through the clockwise lasers, but doing that consistently would be challenging.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21442

EX-1, 172.41
I move slightly at the start to misdirect the first paper (?), then alternate. Waiting to capture the papers in each photo probably helps.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21443

EX-2, 177.27
Surviving after the 3rd photo is the hardest part.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21444

ARF · « **Reply #234 on:** May 27, 2012, 10:12:24 AM »

~~7-7, 89.75~~
~~Really sloppy :( I thought this was already done by constant double focus for some reason.~~
~~http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21446~~

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3-1, 100.35
100.xx was my goal, I didn't think I would get it by such a wide margin. It comes down to favorable boss movements (and fast photos) but 101.xx is definitely realistic.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21540

6-2, 96.33
Not backing down before the last photo makes it faster and much more luck reliant.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21546

7-1, 85.83
Someone willing to put up with the last phase should get 86.xx pretty easily.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21547

7-5, 92.47
I'm happy with this strategy.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21448

8-8, 92.04
Freestyling again...
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21484

10-4, 170.40
I guess a few seconds faster is possible with favorable boss movements.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21485

10-5, 167.56
Thank you for showing how it's done Ridley! 168 and beyond is likely attainable, but needs some luck to not have to break the charge in the last few waves.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21486

11-3, 180.07
I don't think a significantly faster strategy is possible, as the lasers give next to no camera recharge, can still be improved quite a bit by faster photos though.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21541

Chuckolator · « **Reply #235 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:46:46 AM »

13k shots from 9-4 make me a little tired of it, so I'm doing something else.

8-2, 96.97

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21551

I have no name · « **Reply #236 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:46:50 PM »

Not updating yet, but I have added a total time to the spreadsheet.
As of this moment, the total time of all 108 scenes is...46 minutes and 11.76 seconds.
Let's go get sub-46!

ARF · « **Reply #237 on:** June 01, 2012, 10:47:51 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on June 01, 2012, 07:46:50 PM

Not updating yet, but I have added a total time to the spreadsheet.
As of this moment, the total time of all 108 scenes is...46 minutes and 11.76 seconds.
Let's go get sub-46!

Let's do eeet!

EX-4, 182.68
Doing the fast strat for all shots, not the best execution perhaps.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21583

I currently hold many scenes which should be pretty easy to gain a few seconds in, 3-6 can probably be improved by several seconds, but it's pretty random, 8-4 was played purely survival in my run, 9-6 was generally sloppy and since it's so long there might be like 5 seconds to save there. 11-2 only used a fast strat for the first 2 shots. Also I would like to see 4-4 done without waiting for the bullets :V

I have no name · « **Reply #238 on:** June 01, 2012, 11:19:38 PM »

10-8, 176.75
Iku can go die in a fire. I number of attempts I lost to being walled on the last shot... I went from 145 to 1426 shots while improving the 176.67, including 2 ties. I had a virus scan start up right before this that I didn't realize until after, so the FPS is out of whack, but the overall slow rate is less than 5% so it's good, and there were a few moments of 61 or 63 FPS to counteract the 56 near the beginning.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21584

As an added bonus, have the 7 replays I felt were fast enough to save leading up to this.

P.S. Seiga, can you kindly go join Iku in the fire she's been in for the past week or so? kthxbye (translation: you got burned)

Chuckolator · « **Reply #239 on:** June 02, 2012, 12:27:21 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on June 01, 2012, 11:19:38 PM

P.S. Seiga, can you kindly go join Iku in the fire she's been in for the past week or so? kthxbye (translation: you got burned)

Sorry bro, I'm spending all my time building a fire for Koishi. It's gonna be at least ten times as powerful as yours.

I just stumbled across an excellent DNA path, but it's so precise that I've placed two pieces of tape on my monitor to line up my hitbox so I know where I should be to make it work. I'm kind of sick of it by now.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

At this rate, it'll take over 17643 shots. :/