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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #90 on: January 24, 2012, 02:44:38 AM »
Works for me.

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #91 on: January 24, 2012, 07:17:10 AM »
Do we have the lawfull authority to pronounce punishments against the Garda?
Normal humans may be weak, but we were once one.
I have...a terrible need...shall I say the word?...of religion. Then I go out at night and paint the stars.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #92 on: January 24, 2012, 08:34:49 AM »
Do we have the lawfull authority to pronounce punishments against the Garda?

I'll answer this despite the lack of a > input, as the answer might not be what you expect: yes, you do, in the sense that nobody would dispute your claim or your judgement.

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2012, 08:45:20 AM »
Well, I know a way to solve this, knock some sense into motionkoan, then offer to take her and her clan with us.
Go for it.

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2012, 05:08:22 PM »
I'll answer this despite the lack of a > input, as the answer might not be what you expect: yes, you do, in the sense that nobody would dispute your claim or your judgement.
Ack, sorry!

> Do we have any magics that might work better than raw violence to cause Garda society to change?
I have...a terrible need...shall I say the word?...of religion. Then I go out at night and paint the stars.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #95 on: January 24, 2012, 05:27:33 PM »
Ack, sorry!

> Do we have any magics that might work better than raw violence to cause Garda society to change?

> You certainly have more skills than simply your superlative swordswomanship.
> ...

> You recall that Are was famed for her aptitude on the debate floor, but what was her trademark again?
> Was it:
> Her intoxicating Charisma?
> or
> Her razor-edge Wit?
> or
> Her boundless Intelligence?


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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #96 on: January 24, 2012, 05:31:52 PM »
>Charisma
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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2012, 10:09:40 PM »
> Wit.

Apparently, Thomas the Tank Engine isn't one to take crap from anyone.

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2012, 04:03:21 AM »
> Intelligence.
I have...a terrible need...shall I say the word?...of religion. Then I go out at night and paint the stars.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2012, 05:26:01 AM »
>Charisma

Geez I'm slow, didn't even notice this was continuing now!  Anyway, Charisma seems to fit with our Crimson Light nature the most to me, so...yeah.
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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2012, 09:29:04 AM »
Charisma seems to fit with our Crimson Light nature the most to me.
True, but this could be a skill that Are develeoped, not a Celestial skill.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2012, 02:01:40 PM »
True, but this could be a skill that Are develeoped, not a Celestial skill.
Hm, you DO have a point...She might have been able to feel her own nature to some degree and developed abilities to round herself out...  Yeah.  Changing vote to:
>Wit
Just because part of me feels like seeing how that could play out.  Sounds like fun.
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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2012, 08:10:03 AM »
>Wit
Does indeed sound like fun.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2012, 08:18:37 AM »
> You remember now:
> ...

> Your ability to keep track of multiple lines of argument to later send them careening into each other at your whim, your lightning-fast adaptation to new information and your insidious knack to cut straight to the bone verbally have made you a force to be reckoned with in a debate.
> If you can talk a god into giving you part of their very realm, then surely you can talk a society of mighty fire elementals out of centuries-old hate and prejudice.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2012, 09:10:04 PM »
To clarify:  Are IS in fact a mortal, just one who has awakened to her Celestial essence and who has favor with the Celestials themselves, right?  Or did I miss something?  If I'm right, parse the following commands(Unless others object, of course.).  If not, i'll probably need to reword and rethink.

>Address the Garda.
>"If you believe mortality is so filthy, then why do you respect me?  I may have gained favor with the Celestials, and I may have much more power than the average human, but I too am one of those "mortal filth" you seem to despise.  What makes the mortality of Motion-Koan here any different from mine?  If anything, she is closer to your ideal of pure immortality than I am.  Also, if mortality is such a horrible thing, how do you respect the Celestials, who have seen fit to grant me their favor?"
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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #105 on: January 27, 2012, 11:22:49 PM »
To clarify:  Are IS in fact a mortal, just one who has awakened to her Celestial essence and who has favor with the Celestials themselves, right?  Or did I miss something?  If I'm right, parse the following commands(Unless others object, of course.).  If not, i'll probably need to reword and rethink.

You are correct: Are is imbued with foreign divine power so she ages slower, is immune to mortal illness and is much tougher and stronger, but, at her core, she is mortal - she will age and die eventually.

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>Address the Garda.
>"If you believe mortality is so filthy, then why do you respect me?  I may have gained favor with the Celestials, and I may have much more power than the average human, but I too am one of those "mortal filth" you seem to despise.  What makes the mortality of Motion-Koan here any different from mine?  If anything, she is closer to your ideal of pure immortality than I am.  Also, if mortality is such a horrible thing, how do you respect the Celestials, who have seen fit to grant me their favor?"

> The Garda is quite noticeably put off by your line of questioning.
> "I...I MEANT NO DISRESPECT, O CHOSEN OF HEAVEN, BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT YOU ARE LIKE THOSE PATHETIC CREATURES - YOU HAVE WASHED OFF THE MUD OF MORTALITY WITH THE AID OF THE GLORIOUS CELESTIALS AND NOW WALK AS THEIR EQUAL! YOU AND THE SCUM YOU RESTRAIN ARE NOTHING ALIKE!"
> It's quite definitely dodging the question straight into outright denial.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #106 on: January 27, 2012, 11:56:05 PM »
>"So, you're accepting of me since I've been accepted by the Celestials.  What if Motion-Koan here were to gain that same favor?  Would that not remove the entire reason for your displeasure with her?  Obviously my own mortality is irrelevant to you due to my position with the Celestials whom you respect so highly."
>Release Motion-Koan, but be ready to restrain her again should she try attacking the Garda or fleeing, then address her.
>"Naturally, I realize this will not undo the many years of prejudice you and your family have suffered.  However, might this be acceptable to you, as well, if I should provide means for this stigma to be lifted at long last?"
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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2012, 09:37:14 AM »
>How do Garda reproduce?  Considering it's been two generations since Motion-Koan of GardaFire's grandma, following human relations, there would have to be other Garda that did not find the idea of mortals distasteful.  Therefore, not all Garda have the same view that this one (and others) have.  Bring this point up (if it's valid) to help facilitate a change in view.  Then push home with a "if she's inferior, how did she beat you?" to put it into perspective.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2012, 10:35:39 AM »
>How do Garda reproduce?  Considering it's been two generations since Motion-Koan of GardaFire's grandma, following human relations, there would have to be other Garda that did not find the idea of mortals distasteful.  Therefore, not all Garda have the same view that this one (and others) have.  Bring this point up (if it's valid) to help facilitate a change in view. 

>"So, you're accepting of me since I've been accepted by the Celestials.  What if Motion-Koan here were to gain that same favor?  Would that not remove the entire reason for your displeasure with her?  Obviously my own mortality is irrelevant to you due to my position with the Celestials whom you respect so highly."

> Garda do not reproduce, as far as you know, much like other true elementals - they are effectively living parts of their respective Elemental Poles. Should an elemental be destroyed, their essence returns to the Pole, to later reform with no loss of memory or experience.
> "THAT FILTH COULD NEVER GAIN SUCH FAVOR!" the garda roars, seemingly furious at even having to consider the thought, "THE STENCH OF MORTALITY IS TOO DEEP WITHIN HER!"
> The firebird is further incensed by your suggestion of a non-unanimous view towards mortals.
> "I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT FAMILY PROPAGATED, BUT NONE OF MY KIND WOULD EVER CONSIDER SULLYING THEIR BLOODLINE!"

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>Then push home with a "if she's inferior, how did she beat you?" to put it into perspective.

> "ALL THE MORE REASON TO DESTROY IT BEFORE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE OF A DANGER!"

> You are arguing against some deep-seated beliefs of this particular Garda. It would be impossible for an ordinary mortal to convince it otherwise. You would have to bring out your Celestial-granted debating abilities.


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>"Naturally, I realize this will not undo the many years of prejudice you and your family have suffered.  However, might this be acceptable to you, as well, if I should provide means for this stigma to be lifted at long last?"

> Suspending release of Motion-Koan command temporarily.
> "Why're you so charitable all o' a sudden?" [warytired] "You reckon you can do what I ain't managed in decades, mate?"

> Third option has been successfully presented. Votes made during the Assist-Motion-Koan vs. Assist-Garda choice may be altered.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #109 on: January 29, 2012, 12:14:17 AM »
> You are arguing against some deep-seated beliefs of this particular Garda. It would be impossible for an ordinary mortal to convince it otherwise. You would have to bring out your Celestial-granted debating abilities.

>Then bring them out.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2012, 12:53:31 PM »
> You remember that Are had insidious magics at her disposal, strong enough to bend even the strongest of wills.

> Remembered Move: Silver-Tongue Methodology. Complexity: 3. Keywords: Undodgeable, Social. The Chosen create new truths with every word they speak. This move may be activated to supplement a successful argument. The target acquires a new mental weakness of the attacker's choice, related to the topic of the attacking argument.
> Remembered Stance: Commanding-the-Debate Prana. Complexity: 3. Keywords: Stance, Social. Once a Chosen deigns to speak, all must listen. During this Stance, its user may attack mental strengths without risking automatic failure. In addition, successfully attacking a mental weakness allows the user to present another argument in the same action.
> System reminder:
> Unless stated otherwise, only one Move may be used per turn, and only one Stance of each type (Social, Physical) may be active at a time.
> Stating otherwise: Are was exceptionally skilled. She may have two Stances of each type active at a time.


> Fightech, Inc. proudly presents the Legend of Hieda Social Combat System! Retorts ring instead of blades, and cunning arguments take the place of death-defying dodges!
> Are may now choose to enter Social Combat with her enemies. Succeeding in Social Combat forces her opponent to accede to her chosen point of view! Failing Social Combat results in the opponent closing themselves off, leading to failed negotiations at best, and violence at worst!
> System:
> Each turn, a side participating in Social Combat presents an argument, much like making an attack in Physical Combat. Targets of the argument then have an opportunity to defend themselves against the argument. Once an argument has been resolved, successfully or not, the turn passes to the next participant.
> Non-Player Characters possess mental strengths and weaknesses that are, barring special circumstances, initially unknown to Are. These are specific topics that the NPC is particularly opinionated towards.
> Presenting an argument that attacks a strength topic causes an automatic failure - deep-seated ideas are near-impossible to break.
> Presenting an argument that attacks a weakness topic causes an automatic success - fears and misconceptions weaken the NPC with minimal effort.
> Players may spend a turn observing. This action forgoes an attack to allow Are to try to understand her opponent better. A successful observation reveals one strength and one weakness of a chosen opponent.

> Commencing Social Combat.

> You call on your Essence.
> Your eyes and mouth shine a hostile crimson light. A red corona forms above your head.
> Both the Garda and Motion-Koan pause their hateful stares at each other to turn their undivided attention to you. They both look like they feel this was a can of worms they should not have touched.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #111 on: January 31, 2012, 01:24:58 AM »
>Observation round.
>"Let us start at the beginning. I want to hear from each of you in turn: what is the beginning of the conflict between you? And please note that I did not ask why you are currently in conflict; I asked what began it."

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #112 on: January 31, 2012, 08:45:51 AM »
>Clarifying: Are can have two social /physical stances active, but not one from each type?
>If observation only works for one target a turn, focus on the garda first.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2012, 05:54:36 PM »
>Clarifying: Are can have two social /physical stances active, but not one from each type?

> Are may simultaneously be in two Physical and two Social stances at once, for a total of four stances.

>Observation round.
>"Let us start at the beginning. I want to hear from each of you in turn: what is the beginning of the conflict between you? And please note that I did not ask why you are currently in conflict; I asked what began it."

> "I said, mate, me nan was mortal, 'n me gramps was one of these sods," [feardefiant]
> "A DISGUSTING, BLASPHEMOUS ACT!"
> "By'n the time I showed up, one-quart mortal'n'all, nan was dead'n gramps..." [furyrage] "...You tell 'er, mate."
> For the briefest of moments the Garda looks worried, then returns to its confidence.
> "WE TORE OUT HIS FLAMEHEART AND SET IT IN THE ORISTEEL CAGE FOR ALL TO SEE!"
> Motion-Koan looks like she is about to say something, but bites her tongue.

> You feel that the Garda:
> Is proud: it is strong against its authority being undermined by its social inferiors.
> Is lawful: it is weak against the authority of someone stronger than it.

> You feel that Motion-Koan:
> Is passionate: she is strong against acting against things and people she loves.
> Is short-sighted: she is weak against facing long-term consequences.

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2012, 02:19:34 AM »
>"Garda. Was that action in accordance with laws of your kind, or was it decided on at the time? Were you following the law, or were you simply an angry mob?"
>"Motion-Koan. Have you thought about the long-term consequences of a feud with the Garda? You will never kill them all, not when they are reborn after death. If you fight them, you cannot be victorious."

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« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2012, 08:33:21 AM »
>To Motion-Koan Addendum: "Your path of violence will only serve to further ostrasize you and your kin, there will be little chance for understanding if all you do is fight."

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2012, 09:22:07 AM »
>"Garda. Was that action in accordance with laws of your kind, or was it decided on at the time? Were you following the law, or were you simply an angry mob?"
>"Motion-Koan. Have you thought about the long-term consequences of a feud with the Garda? You will never kill them all, not when they are reborn after death. If you fight them, you cannot be victorious."

> "IT WAS DECIDED BY OUR MOST HONORED CIRCLE! THE GUILTY SCUM VIOLATED AN OLD AND HALLOWED TABOO!"
> "Hey mate, I en't killin' 'em!" [defiantproud] "Garda heal slower'n they resurrect, so's I leave 'em like I left that sod and let 'em wonder whether they should kill 'emselves to get it over quicker."

>To Motion-Koan Addendum: "Your path of violence will only serve to further ostrasize you and your kin, there will be little chance for understanding if all you do is fight."

> "Then what else'm I to do, mate?" [unsureanger]
> For the first time since you started talking to her, Motion-Koan turns away.
> "There... there ain't no going back."
> Motion-Koan pauses to consider her - and her family's - future. Automatic success.

Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2012, 09:22:51 AM »
>"Koan, considering you want revenge on those that have wronged your kin, I am guessing this Garda is one of the honored circle, or at least a representative.  What would your idea of justice be in regards to your family?"

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2012, 01:41:19 PM »
>"Koan, considering you want revenge on those that have wronged your kin, I am guessing this Garda is one of the honored circle, or at least a representative.  What would your idea of justice be in regards to your family?"

> Motion-Koan smiles a cruel smile.
> "Eye for an eye, mate, 'til everyone's blind."

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Re: The Legend of Hieda: Daughter Zero
« Reply #119 on: February 03, 2012, 05:25:31 AM »
>Assume Stance: Commanding-the-Debate Prana (why didn't we do this already?).
>"Long-term thinking is clearly not your strong point. You are only giving them further reason to hate you, further reason to hate mortals. Is that what you want?"
>If Motion-Koan says something about not forgiving the Garda: "I'm not talking about forgiving them. I'm talking about not making things worse. When one is wounded, one doesn't thrust a blade into the wound. The wound is still there."