a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline

[BT]

Yeah, you might want to get back to that boss later. Even when you're at an ok level, he can sitll bs you with that instakill. And, for some reason, he doesn't ALWAYS use the +1 Dark thing twice in a row. This has never happened to me. ;/

[theshirn]

I tried him a few times.  He double cast it on the second or third turn every one.

By the way, can anyone translate the 1.07 patch notes?

[Vilkni]

An update: It seems the users claiming there was a 2 hour delay on yukkuri kings didn't realize one important fact:

Yukkuri king spawns ARE fixed.

This means running away and reentering the fight method is useless as fuck on them, which they were doing, apparently. Yeah, this means if you didn't get the yukkuri king on first encounter (See, you ALWAYS get them on the first encounter if a king decides he would appear.) from two specific monster spots to the left, you have to run from the map to the save point to reset the spawns. They aren't on a timer, it's just the way that they spawn can confuse people into thinking they're on a timer when they aren't.

Looks like I don't have to use Cheat Engine, because the method listed above to hunt yukkuri kings averages about 1 ever 4-5 minutes which is very opposite of what was being claimed (That 2 hour timer). Homing curvy laser, could you try this method and report if this is true?

[theshirn]

ITT we run back and forth from the Poosh thread :getdown:

This makes me wonder, though: are ALL Yukkuri spawns fixed in this way?  And in that case, can people figure out where they can spawn, so you can powerlevel on the weaker ones?

[Pesco]

Now that sounds like a much more plausible way to balance spawns. I'll still take a save file if there's other stuff to hack-test.

[trancehime]

日本語はたのしですね。でも、も大変です。

That said, patch 1.07 notes. Google translate helps a little:
Ver1.07の変更点
・ＶＲＡＭが少なすぎると一部のシーンで落ちる現象を修正。
・ソフトリセットキーを追加しました。
（Ｌ＋Ｒ＋Ｓ＋Ｐを同時押し）
・一部のイベントでスキップするとレシピがもらえなくなる現象を修正。
（既に起こっていた場合も、今回のバージョンでレシピがもらえます。）
・一部のスキルが表記よりもダメージが弱くなっていたのを修正。
（威力が上昇したスキル：津波、カオスフレア、ヒートブレス、ヒノファンタズムなど）
・表記とダメージが釣り合っていなかったスキルの表記を修正。
（マインドブラストの威力は30が正しい。）
・技の表記も威力もおかしかったスキルを修正。
（ニュートラルブレスは威力70が正しい。）
・スキルに空欄があると挙動が怪しい問題を修正。
・魔理沙がルーンの杖を装備するとグラフィックが表示されない現象を修正。
・プラズマナイフの追加効果が正しく「大感電」になりました。
・グリーンベレー／レッドベレーが正しく連続攻撃できるようになりました。
・チェイス系、シールドガード系のように味方にかける物理系スキルでミスが出る現象を修正。
・スターサファイア、河城みとりなどのパッシブ能力の数値を表記通りに修正。
・阿求の「蘇生時のHP回復量上昇」能力が正しく機能するように修正。
・メタル系のパッシブ能力「☆すべて」が正しく機能するように修正。

because someone asked:

1) Some scenes screwing up if you had too little VRAM available was fixed
2) L+R+S+P for Soft Reset added
3) A bug where you didn't get recipes obtained in certain scenes if you skipped them was fixed (in the case that you've already past this scenes, updating will give you the recipes)
4) A bug where some skills were weaker than the displayed power was fixed. Tsunami, Chaos Flare, Heat Blast and Hinophantasm had their power raised.
5) Mind Blast was rebalanced, it is now at 30 power
6) Neutral Breath had its power fixed to 70
7) A bug where skills with empty spaces in them acted strangely was fixed
A bug where Marisa's graphic didn't change when she had Rune Staff equipped was fixed
9) Plasma Knife has an added effect of "strong paralysis" now.
10) Green/Red Berets now properly add chance to proc multiple attacks
11) Chaser-type and Shield Guard-type skills can work even if allies miss with their attacks.
12) Star Sapphire and Kawashiro Mitori (shikigamis) have their passive values adjusted
13) Akyuu's skill which is to revive w/ a lot of HP is now working properly
14) Metal-type Shikigami's star-resist everything passive has been adjusted appropriately

[theshirn]

11) Chaser-type and Shield Guard-type skills can work even if allies miss with their attacks.

like Chasers needed the buff :V

Thanks, Trance!

[theshirn]

MINDFLAYERS

that is all.

I forced my way past the second tower guardian by lucking out; he instakilled Mokou early but then proceeded to use just weak single-target stuff or miss with the instakill.  Party level 15, except Yuka, who was 12.

I then proceeded to dodge like a complete and total BOSS and got to the shortcut in the second tower without dying horribly!  Probably going to need to clear some more of the second stratum before I ram my face into Chloe, easier or not.  Level 16 ain't gonna cut it.

[trancehime]

like Chasers needed the buff :V

i... actually think that was a bug that got fixed. I haven't actually played much recently due to uni so I can't check myself.

[homing curvy laser]

...This means running away and reentering the fight method is useless as fuck on them, which they were doing, apparently. Yeah, this means if you didn't get the yukkuri king on first encounter (See, you ALWAYS get them on the first encounter if a king decides he would appear.) from two specific monster spots to the left, you have to run from the map to the save point to reset the spawns. They aren't on a timer, it's just the way that they spawn can confuse people into thinking they're on a timer when they aren't.

Looks like I don't have to use Cheat Engine, because the method listed above to hunt yukkuri kings averages about 1 ever 4-5 minutes which is very opposite of what was being claimed (That 2 hour timer). Homing curvy laser, could you try this method and report if this is true?

Actually, I was killing those two mobs on the left every single time (except for when there was a Mind Flayer among them, oh god the trauma), which might explain the 10 minutes delay if that's the case. No idea about not seeing anything for two hours, though, because as I said I was not running away and re-engaging with these monsters...
I'll try testing a bit more later today.

ITT we run back and forth from the Poosh thread :getdown:

This makes me wonder, though: are ALL Yukkuri spawns fixed in this way?  And in that case, can people figure out where they can spawn, so you can powerlevel on the weaker ones?

Pretty sure they aren't, at least on the longshot area in the Forest of Magic. I found 5 Metal Yukkuri and 1 Stray Yukkuri there in relatively no time, compared to the king grinding.

MINDFLAYERS

Lyrica! :V! And then you realize her RES buff is not as strong as Sanae's and that there's no buff growth tree so you can't make it stronger and faster.  :ohdear:

By the way, if anyone needs a save and doesn't mind my horribleness at everything, here's mine.

[EDIT] Well, yeah, ran around for one more hour and it looks like it's just as rizul98 said. That makes things much more simple! Curse you, bad luck, for getting in the way of science!
It's kind of sad how +EXP equipment doesn't work on them, though. Seeing experience rain all over the place is always amusing.

[Battler]

It's actually worth noting that every encounter in the game is semi-fixed. Each and every seperate enemy on the overworld has a small list it can choose from at random.

It's pretty easy to notice. Go to a big room about half-way through a dungeon. You will notice that the enemies closer to that room's entrance will tend to be weaker than enemies closer to that room's exit.

[homing curvy laser]

The poll results are out.

幻想魔録プレイ頂きありがとうございます。
仲間にしたい式神投票の第一回集計結果です。

「こいつだけは欲しい！」と思う式神に投稿頂きました。

現行バージョンで式神にならないキャラにも投票可能です。
（今、東方幻想魔録で敵として襲ってくるモンスターに限ります。）

1位：クロエ＝グリパー
2位：四十雀音羽
3位：霞朱麗
4位：ウンディーネ
5位：レッサーヴァンパイア
6位：鉱山の村
7位：モーショボー
8位：サキュバス

9位：アーチャー
10位：文車

And then there's this thing.

ボスを除いた、人気上位の式神(TOP5)は
今後の扱いを見直します！

「ウンディーネ」
「レッサーヴァンパイア」
「鉱山の村」
「モーショボー」
「サキュバス」

I think these five might be made into shikigami in a future version. Who knows. Rikaichan isn't helping much and Google Translate is as good as ever.
Worth noting is that they ignored ZUN, who was one vote above the flat Archer. I believed in you guys! 

[Serela]

http://puu.sh/dhH9 <--- Four of the monsters that won, according to Pooshlmer.

lol mine village :V

[Straielst]

I've been enjoying this game fairly thoroughly.  It is fun controlling the characters of Touhou to combat an abnormal (by Touhou standards) form of hostiles. The artwork is also adorable^^

I'm just now obtaining the patches, with out them this title is as stated here in this forum bugged to an extent XD

[GigaOne5]

does anyone know a good place to farm Yukkuri towers?

[Serela]

Ver1.08, patch notes, and also links to 1.08x and all the earlier patches.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/

[Vilkni]

The patch added portrait cut-ins to many things, even if you already saw the battle character's portrait in the menus. This includes the bosses which you will end up missing out on if you completed the game in the previous patches. :V

[Vilkni]

EDIT: Massively derp'd on this one by quoting my own post on accident instead of modifying my own post like I thought I was doing. Oops.

Anyways, in my mistake I was saying you can combine LAST WORDS ON EVERYONE. RESULTS IN A MORE POWERFUL LAST WORD WHILE ONLY USING ONE LAST WORD.

[theshirn]

EDIT: Massively derp'd on this one by quoting my own post on accident instead of modifying my own post like I thought I was doing. Oops.

Anyways, in my mistake I was saying you can combine LAST WORDS ON EVERYONE. RESULTS IN A MORE POWERFUL LAST WORD WHILE ONLY USING ONE LAST WORD.

Wait, what?  What do you mean by combine?

[Serela]

Each of the main characters (whichever you chose the scenario of) apparently has a "Super" last word they can pull off if all characters use their LW in the same turn.

Here's screenshots of the poosh post about it, with the picture of the final boss removed. Everything I could say about the matter would only be a crappier rewording of this post, so. http://puu.sh/dr0S http://puu.sh/dr1d

[Vilkni]

Wait, what?  What do you mean by combine?

See, the thing with this is that it can't be apparently less than all the party members - In other words, you need all five members. Someone tried with 4 members and it failed.

However, the problem is that the last word description didn't change at all, there are no cut-ins, apparently some of them don't work without cheating.

In other words it's not really officially implemented yet, and really only works at higher levels due to holding onto last words for longer.

Also, what Serela said.

But others have discovered the following: Byakuren's last word combination is the same as last game, Reimu's combination is high damage light spell that hits everything, Yukari's blocks all attacks, and Meiling's just does really high damage to one target.

[theshirn]

Welp, Chloe's a joke.  Beat her with a level 16 party.

EDIT: and now a Kisumeget!  She seems to be a debuffer, which means I'll probably want to make room for her, at least for bosses...

[trancehime]

http://puu.sh/dhH9 <--- Four of the monsters that won, according to Pooshlmer.

lol mine village :V

Moh Shuvuu is conspicuously absent from those pictures :V Wonder why?

(Undine, Lesser Vampire, Minetown and Succubus are those)

EDIT: and now a Kisumeget!  She seems to be a debuffer, which means I'll probably want to make room for her, at least for bosses...

Kisume's Lv30 shikigami skill :motherofgod:  :X

[theshirn]

Kisume's Lv30 shikigami skill :motherofgod:  :X

I guess she's getting in! :V  (what does it do translated wiki makes no sense)

Also picked up a Daiyousei and a Hatate.  I should probably cycle them in at some point...

[Serela]

I guess she's getting in! :V  (what does it do translated wiki makes no sense)

It doesn't? D: I might be much too used to reading google translate, though. Reading garble-glish is second nature to me.

http://puu.sh/dxqu

A Large-Spread-Range physical attack that also debuffs target defense. The attack's power gets kind of garbled by google translate when there's an additional effect, admittedly; but the + makes it seem like it's probably at the least not weak.

I'm not sure what "in +" power equates to anyway, other then that I've seen it on chasers.

[Vilkni]

Basically, that + in terms of stats debuffs means it does have a stronger debuff than a normal debuff attack would otherwise have.

However, I think it would be hard to tell the actual power without at least seperating the effect from the power.

[Serela]

I'm pretty sure the + isn't related to the debuff, as it doesn't appear in relation to any buff/debuff moves that do not also have a damage factor (Which is a lot of them), while lots of damage moves and damage+effect combination moves have a + or minus. Google translate just garbles it together; the translation that comes out of damage+effect combo moves is universally messed up. You can't expect too much out of translator programs.

For the most part though, moves are understandable enough through the translator. There's a only a handful of skills that come to mind of which effects I'm not certain, most of which are field effects.

[Vilkni]

Yep, I derp'd on that part.

However, the thing about these chasers is that + means it's stronger on that tier than average, and a lot of these also have different kanjis for how strong the physical attack is even if I can't read them for shit.

I think it would be better if the original power was posted in there.

That reminds me, what field effects are you looking at?

[Serela]

That reminds me, what field effects are you looking at?

Google Translate is not sufficient for "Ether" and "Breakthrough", along with some others that I don't feel like combing through shikigami to find. I just remembered that these were on Murasa.

Google trans- http://puu.sh/dxXB
Jap - http://puu.sh/dxYp
D-Net's inbetween them but we know what that does.

[trancehime]

instead of using a machine translator just ask me:

It debuffs both enemy ATK and DEF. Note that the stat effect is reduces physical stats. As for the +, it just means it's stronger than the usual power listed on that move. Since there doesn't appear to be many hard values listed on the wiki...


ETHER: Creates a field that allows Conditional effects to strike more.

BREAKTHROUGH: Creates a field that increases the chances of critical hits of occurring.

The descriptions are wonky because of otakai (お互い) but all that just means is that since the move is a field, the effects apply to both enemies and allies.