Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152453 times)

BT · « **Reply #150 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:04:36 PM »

Quote from: BT on January 05, 2012, 04:06:52 PM

So, what does the fang-like thing you get near the third temple (above Hina's forest, west of the northern desert) used for?

Never got this answered.

Also: I just found Kisume. Twice. In a row. With no way to recruit her anyway.

Beat her the first time. Got unlucky with her splash-damage attack during the second time. :V

RegalStar · « **Reply #151 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:22:31 PM »

Quote from: BT on January 06, 2012, 04:04:36 PM

Never got this answered.

Also: I just found Kisume. Twice. In a row. With no way to recruit her anyway.

Beat her the first time. Got unlucky with her splash-damage attack during the second time. :V

I didn't know there was a fang there. I found "Suppository" in Chaos Plain 3, though, if that's what you mean. Given the name it looks pretty obvious that it has something to do with Reisen,

theshirn · « **Reply #152 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:35:53 PM »

Apparently you need Satori in order to get Kisume.

BT · « **Reply #153 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:50:39 PM »

@RegalStar: I see.
@Above: Yeah, I know. And... uhh... as I am typing this I have found a THIRD Kisume. Is there something special in Hakugyokurou that is making this happen?

RegalStar · « **Reply #154 on:** January 06, 2012, 05:29:34 PM »

Kisume is just a rare encounter. Apparently, after you recruit Satori you can recruit monsters as shikigamis, so you recruit Kisume as you would with any other monster, she's just special because she's a Touhou character. Or something like that.

Also, I would really really like an extract of that Maple Wise remix in stratum 2. It's completely awesome.

theshirn · « **Reply #155 on:** January 06, 2012, 05:31:08 PM »

THERE IS A MAPLE WISE REMIX?

I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW

RegalStar · « **Reply #156 on:** January 06, 2012, 05:44:57 PM »

Yes, there is a Maple Wise remix. You can listen to it as soon as you exit the stairs room leading to the 2nd stratum, in fact.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #157 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:53:09 AM »

Kisume is really easy to beat once you get the Silver Hammer, if anyone is having trouble with her. Also, pretty much all other random Touhou encounters (but Koakuma, I've yet to find her) are easy to beat by just spamming physical attacks.
Speaking of them, is PC-98 Reimu in this? Having only PC-98 Marisa seems unfair to me. No Mima seems somewhat unfair too, but eh, my bones haven't been feeling anything for a long time.

Domino369 · « **Reply #158 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:07:39 AM »

Patch 1.06 is out.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/

Ver1.06の変更点
・一部のボスモンスターのグラフィックを変更しました。
・さとりがイベントで正しく表示されるようになりました。
・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神）
・「運命のスペクタクル」で変身した敵を倒した際に
　表示がずれてしまう場合がある減少を修正しました。
・「エンペラーローブ」で有利な能力変化を自動治療しなくなりました。
・「ミラーシールド」等の反射装備では味方からの攻撃を反射しなくなりました。

trancehime · « **Reply #159 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:12:01 PM »

Quote from: Domino369 on January 07, 2012, 07:07:39 AM

Patch 1.06 is out.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/

Ver1.06の変更点
・一部のボスモンスターのグラフィックを変更しました。
・さとりがイベントで正しく表示されるようになりました。
・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神）
・「運命のスペクタクル」で変身した敵を倒した際に
　表示がずれてしまう場合がある減少を修正しました。
・「エンペラーローブ」で有利な能力変化を自動治療しなくなりました。
・「ミラーシールド」等の反射装備では味方からの攻撃を反射しなくなりました。

Spoiler:

CloverNaght · « **Reply #160 on:** January 07, 2012, 04:51:55 PM »

okay i got Satori after beat 2nd tower boss (WTF 2nd tower boss is WAY more easier than 1st tower boss i beat her on 1st try)
how to recruit kisume shizuha daiyoisei etc with her?

Serela · « **Reply #161 on:** January 07, 2012, 06:20:44 PM »

It'll happen automatically. Equipping Satori isn't required. Other monsters can join too; random chance when you beat them. It's not 1% stuff like GoS though, don't worry; chance does vary by enemy though.

CloverNaght · « **Reply #162 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:17:08 PM »

it works thanks just got kisume few mins ago
anyway anyone ever beat this boss? http://i42.tinypic.com/344cd42.png
he keeps buffing himself and suddenly wipe all my party in 2-3 turns ;_;
which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?

Serela · « **Reply #163 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:38:12 PM »

Quote from: AkurouNyan~ on January 07, 2012, 07:17:08 PM

which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?

Star Sapphire does.

Koishi and Beholder do too, but that's later on I think.

GigaOne5 · « **Reply #164 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:12:32 PM »

So I feel pretty dumb. I have searched all three strata's as far as I can and still have yet to find the hookshot. Could anyone possibly have a screenshot as to where it could be or a detailed steps as to how to get to it? That or is it related to beating any of the three girls in the towers?

Serela · « **Reply #165 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:35:15 PM »

Getting the hookshot? I remember directions being on the poosh thread... ah, here we go. http://puu.sh/cHVF

Domino369 · « **Reply #166 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:48:10 PM »

Quote from: AkurouNyan~ on January 07, 2012, 07:17:08 PM

it works thanks just got kisume few mins ago
anyway anyone ever beat this boss? http://i42.tinypic.com/344cd42.png
he keeps buffing himself and suddenly wipe all my party in 2-3 turns ;_;
which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?

That boss took some time on my part, I spammed electric attacks to keep earth attacks low damage.

Also, I finally beat the game :3
My endgame team (possible spoilers) http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/Domino36963/DevilOfDecline5.png
And I made a video of how to kill those giant metal yukkuri's based on rizul98's recommendations (youtube kinda messed up the sound. The entire video ended up being rather quite, I had to turn up my speakers a bit -_- Also, spoilers probably.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blw35JiHB-o&context=C309f179ADOEgsToPDskKgwGv6C-dJanvklcTZKpOb

GigaOne5 · « **Reply #167 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:49:19 PM »

Quote from: Serela on January 07, 2012, 08:35:15 PM

Getting the hookshot? I remember directions being on the poosh thread... ah, here we go. http://puu.sh/cHVF

Interesting cause I have opened that silver chest. Is the hookshot a craftable item? If not then something might be bugged for me.

Serela · « **Reply #168 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:57:32 PM »

You sure you can't use any of the normal hookshot points?

I mean, I know there's points where you need an upgraded hootshot instead.

Vilkni · « **Reply #169 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:03:32 PM »

Quote from: GigaOne5 on January 07, 2012, 08:49:19 PM

Interesting cause I have opened that silver chest. Is the hookshot a craftable item? If not then something might be bugged for me.

So are you saying you don't have

Spoiler:

or the other characters only gotten via 'normal' hookshot points?

GigaOne5 · « **Reply #170 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:05:20 PM »

Quote from: rizul98 on January 07, 2012, 09:03:32 PM

So are you saying you don't have
Spoiler:
Momiji
or the other characters only gotten via 'normal' hookshot points?

Sadly I don't. I very confused.

Vilkni · « **Reply #171 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:07:39 PM »

Quote from: GigaOne5 on January 07, 2012, 09:05:20 PM

Sadly I don't. I very confused.

Go to the first 'normal' hookshot point on the first stratum (which should've been a 2nd area above the first area you're forced to go to) and run into the point. You can't use it for anything than running into the normal points.

If that's what you meant by the hookshot not working, then welp.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #172 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:32:51 PM »

There is one point in the second stratum that I can remember (in youkai mountain I believe) where you need the extended hookshot. As for using the hookshot itself, it simply requires that you be next to the point and tap/hold down the corresponding arrow key to get across.

Also, are the waves of patches done yet? I'm considering picking up the game again soon.

Vilkni · « **Reply #173 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:44:04 PM »

Quote from: Syanas on January 07, 2012, 11:32:51 PM

There is one point in the second stratum that I can remember (in youkai mountain I believe) where you need the extended hookshot. As for using the hookshot itself, it simply requires that you be next to the point and tap/hold down the corresponding arrow key to get across.

Also, are the waves of patches done yet? I'm considering picking up the game again soon.

Not exactly - I think a lot of people are complaining that some abilities are a wee bit too powerful, like chasers for one thing. Considering 1.06 just came out...

Besides, I think we're in for numerous patches by the time this wave is done, anyways.

theshirn · « **Reply #174 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:35:39 AM »

Nitori get! Sorry, Utsuho, you're just too darn squishy. Thankfully scaling exp means it's not too much of a chore to level her up, the rest of my party's only level 8 anyway.

Is there any compilation of what passives shikigami have? Even just the starters?

Serela · « **Reply #175 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:45:04 AM »

Quote from: An Awesome Person on January 08, 2012, 05:35:39 AM

Is there any compilation of what passives shikigami have? Even just the starters?

google translate on the japanese wiki works pretty well, and just about all the touhou character shikigamis have most of their data filled out (Stuff they don't get until high levels (and there ARE high high level passives even on seemingly-earlygame-limited shikigamis) is still missing for most)

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku
Go to "Shikigami" and "By Type" on the left side, and Eastern Character has all the touhou characters organized by game and fight order, so even names you can't understand are easily identifiable.

The General category (Very incomplete and possibly outdated after some patches changing it's shikigamis) includes shikigami that are neither touhou nor monster-fight-recruits, which includes all promotional shikigami and a few others. And then there's Monster, which has the monsters you can recruit as Shikigami after an event that occurs, but the monster section is very incomplete (not all recruitable monsters are listed, and later ones in the game mostly don't have info filled out; most before the final dungeon have a good bit of info out though)

Vilkni · « **Reply #176 on:** January 08, 2012, 09:41:16 AM »

Serela isn't kidding when she says that there's also some passives that level up REALLY LATE. Like 65-70.

What do I mean? The -90% hp penalty passive that the metal king yukkuri shikigami has? At 65, it goes down to -45%, which is why not all passives at certain levels have been filled in yet.

In the end, this means some shikigamis might have some absurdly powerful passives that aren't known yet because they require level 60-70 to get. Unfortunately, the best exp rate gain is in the last area before the end via the highest tier yukkuris which give 30k exp each, so it'll take a good while to get all the high high level passives. At least you can actually equip 15 shikigamis, but due to the way that hunting highest tier yukkuris works, it's still limited in how many shikigamis you can actually level up, though.

Pesco · « **Reply #177 on:** January 08, 2012, 09:46:22 AM »

From the Cheat Engine side of things, I haven't found a way to hack exp gain. There's a variable which controls the displayed exp of an encounter. That's got nothing to do with how much you actually get. Each character and shikigami gets their own variable for displayed exp gain (the one by their exp bar). It's also purely display and doesn't change the actual exp required to level up. Lastly I tried reducing the exp until next level figure. It's another display-only variable. No shortcuts to hard grinding.

CloverNaght · « **Reply #178 on:** January 08, 2012, 10:35:05 AM »

is okuu really that weak? i grind her to level 20+ yet she still hits weak and fragile too...not to mention her speed isn't that big either

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #179 on:** January 08, 2012, 11:21:32 AM »

She actually has the third highest INT and the fourth highest STR and AGI of the game, so she might work as a mixed glass cannon. I don't really mind her squishiness, and the fact that she's actually more resilient that Marisa or Patchouli is kind of funny. In fact, she's only a bit slower than Marisa, but has more INT and HP than her.

By the way, has anyone managed to beat

Spoiler:

? I'm pretty sure I only got it thanks to

Spoiler:

Last Word, and that was after a ton of retries.

Spoiler:

actually helped me a lot, too, that new passive ability might not be as good as before but it certainly helps if you have the correct attacks and shikigami (namely Hatate, but she didn't help me much in that fight because I forgot she existed).

Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152453 times)

Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152453 times)