a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline

[Vilkni]

So patch 1.04 is out, but the important part is that the B button is now fixed:

Spoiler:

Patch Notes:
Ver1.04の変更点
・Config.exeで設定したキーが予約キーと競合した場合に予約キーを無視するようになりました。
　（Bボタンを[X]に割り当てた場合、1.03以前では[X]はXボタンとしての予約キーなのでB+Xボタンを押した扱いになっていました。今バージョンからは上記の場合はBボタンのみ認識し、Xボタンを認識しません。）
・式神「錦小瑠璃」がマップ上に配置されました。
　（ヒント：幽香がいた階段が怪しいかも）
・紫が剣を装備すると画像が正しく表示されない問題を修正。
　（他にも一部のキャラが一部の武器を装備時に同様の現象を把握しています。次パッチにて対応します。）
・「ベネブランス・ウォール」でかばう時にターゲットがおかしくなる場合がある問題を修正。
・式神モンスター「レッサーデーモン」を仲間にできない不具合を修正しました。
・一部の戦闘エフェクトの不具合を調整しました。
・美鈴編ボスをスルー出来るバグ修正
・紫編にてレミリアが仲間にならないバグ修正
・行けないはずのポータルが表示されるバグ修正
・掲示板メッセージを変更
・ミニマップの画像を修正
・壁を貫通するマップを多数修正
・マップミスを多数修正
・イベントの台詞を一部修正

Upgrading from 1.03 link: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_104.exe

Upgrading from 1.00 link: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_104x.exe

And yes, I have no clue on the rest of the fixes but at least no more pressing the f1 to get around the B button bug.

EDIT: More info, turns out one of these bugs that prevented Yukari from getting two characters was fixed, but I forgot that was in the patch note. Whoops.

E2: For a interesting info: Equipping a weapon that comes with a magic element (Fire, water, etc.) affects gain in that magic element as well.

EDIT3: They also added in the shikigami that won the contest that was running before the game came out a while ago.

[ResurectedPlayer]

i already saved  the game in many slots and works good....
but i can see the saves or back ups in the carpet
i can't find them! please help!

[theshirn]

Really digging the music in this.  Sweet stuff.

[Domino369]

Grr, I gotta start making and using accounts on Touhou websites instead of just lurking. At anyrate, I've been at the final boss for about 3 days now. Excellent game, but I just wonder if there's a better area to level. Also, patch 1.04 introduced a special treat~ Currently level 51 earning 200 or 500-700 exp a fight across the board. I think that translates to roughly 300-500 fights a level x.x

[Vilkni]

Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.

Also apparently the special treat is a bit bugged and could be potentially overwritten by a recent promotion shikigami, but I need to test this one as soon as I stop being distracted by Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its silly powerful light tanks.

[theshirn]

as soon as I stop being distracted by Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its silly powerful light tanks.

Utility APC 4 lyfe

Elemental weapons giving boosts to both is a nice implementation.

[trancehime]

Trance, I'd be happy to help out, but I don't have a single clue how to edit wikis. If you want to discuss, PM me for my MSN and we can talk it over.

Like I said, I'm only going to do it if people are actually interested in some English resources for the game.

If people are content as is, I'm not going to bother - I had to stop my work on the GoS translation effort for a reason; that was that I am incredibly busy with university.

[Saber Nero]

Like I said, I'm only going to do it if people are actually interested in some English resources for the game.

If people are content as is, I'm not going to bother - I had to stop my work on the GoS translation effort for a reason; that was that I am incredibly busy with university.

To be honest I haven't touched the game in about 3 days now, been playing other things. I'm saving this for when the rush of patches stops. I worked on GoS briefly in the beginning of its translation only to lose motivation after having to redo my work 3 times over due to patches.

[homing curvy laser]

If anything, the list of passive bonuses shikigamis give would be a nice thing to have translated (once all of them have popped in the Japanese wiki, obviously).

[Saber Nero]

Alert me when that happens, I'd be happy to do that.

[trancehime]

Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.

30k exp how often?  :wat:

Alert me when that happens, I'd be happy to do that.

Ditto

[RegalStar]

Well, just got the game today. Loved Marisa's reaction to her house disappearing in the intro. Let's see how this game turns out.

EDIT: Got past the main character specific part early on. Now it's seriously giving me Sora no Kiseki the 3rd vibe.

[Serela]

If anything, the list of passive bonuses shikigamis give would be a nice thing to have translated (once all of them have popped in the Japanese wiki, obviously).

For the vast majority of moves/passives, just going to the japanese wiki with Google Translate is adequate.  Some of it's a little awkward but there's only a few things that you can't actually figure out well via googletrans; short simple things like Skills and Passives usually translate into something pretty understandable. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku

It's not completely done of course, but it's being filled out at quite a steady rate. (Keep in mind shikigami moves/bonuses are learned as they level, so even one that seems filled out might not be done) Since shikigamis are sorted into categories, figuring out the less obvious names are is a piece of cake.

Of course, if anyone eventually starts an actual project to English Patch the game, that's when I start loving translators forever and ever.

[Vilkni]

30k exp how often?  :wat:

Ditto

I just checked real quick - Someone apparently gained 5 levels in a hour and half off the highest tier of yukkuris and he was at the point where levels cost 40k+ exp to level up.

So a pretty good exp rate.

[Domino369]

Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.

Actually, that exp is from the final area of the final dungeon XD The scaling is messing with how it's shared throughout the party. I just found the 'final' form of the metal yukkuri's, but dang it's a pain to take them out before they run.

I also can't seem to get into Valkyrie Chronicles II again despite it sitting in my psp right now...

[RegalStar]

Is it just me or are the "master" characters not very different from each other? I mean, all the spells come from the shikigamis, and the masters themselves only seem to differ in last word and stats, which isn't different enough to make say, one warrior type too distinct from another (especially since it seems that you can just shove any weapon type on them and they'll all do equally well).

Maybe it's just that I'm still not far into the game yet...

[theshirn]

I've heard theories ventured that they may have different rates at which they attain weapon and element levels.  If that's true, it could be useful to know.  But as far as I know that's just a rumor.

[Vilkni]

Actually, that exp is from the final area of the final dungeon XD The scaling is messing with how it's shared throughout the party. I just found the 'final' form of the metal yukkuri's, but dang it's a pain to take them out before they run.

I also can't seem to get into Valkyrie Chronicles II again despite it sitting in my psp right now...

Oh right, I forgot one set of trick to killing the stupid yukkuris in the dungeon. Spoilers obviously, but this IS necessary to help kill the bastards:

Spoiler:

So it turns out a few shikigamis like Murasa can learn D net which would prevent yukkuris from fleeing. However, all the bastards come packed with a hp regen field effect skill as a counter which makes them invincible since it regens higher hp than what they have. The key to the problem is to understand that you CAN overwrite the hp regen field the turn it comes up, so...

Step 1: Bring multiple shikigamis with D net just in case. Also have skills to overwrite the hp regen field. And DON'T FUCKING FORGET AYA!

Step 2: Start the fight with the metal kings in the order:

Turn 1: Use Aya's skill to make all of you move first and cast D-net.

Turn 2: The yukkuri will now counter with the field effect of hp regen. Hit it with a field effect that overwrites the hp regen, obviously.

Turn 3: Repeat turn 1 steps if the bastard isn't dead.

That's the trick in a nutshell, basically. Have happy times hunting these yukkuris, especially since they don't attack at all. Or you could resort to Eiki's LW since that actually apparently works on yukkuris but it's too luck-based.

And that's how you deal with the yukkuris running away.

[Serela]

They also have different orders in which they pick up the weapon skills; and -possibly- everyone can't learn all the weapon skills, but we aren't sure.

But yeah, other then that... it only matters a lot when there's a significant difference in a stat (Which is something that gets more apparent later on, as well). Like Patchouli's big sets of highs (INT/MP) and lows (Everything other then POT), Yuka's tankiness and slowness, etc. There is, however, pretty large stat variations between characters depending on what/who you're looking at, so it does still matter SOME; in addition to the possibility of having different learning rates of the elemental levels.

[trancehime]

Of course, if anyone eventually starts an actual project to English Patch the game, that's when I start loving translators forever and ever.

I can't start any efforts but I can definitely assist.

[theshirn]

Someone on poosh posted an image with all the characters (except

Spoiler:

Remilia

) at their level 70 base stats.  There's some pretty significant variance in a lot of places (for example: I sincerely doubt I'll use Utsuho for long because she's just unbelievably fragile).  There are some interesting things there...it seems that Meiling is statistically superior to Mokou in most ways, though Mokou's higher POT might end up making her the better tank anyway, and the differences aren't that great.

[Serela]

Mokou's wonderful last word and the fact that outside of Meiling's scenario, you don't get Meiling  until very late in the game, helps Mokou's case.

Edit: New Patch (1.05): http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_105.exe

Don't ask me what it does, because I don't know where to find a changelog.

[BT]

So, what does the fang-like thing you get near the third temple (above Hina's forest, west of the northern desert) used for?

[RegalStar]

Original Japanese changelog:

・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神関連）
・スタープラチナの特殊能力がおかしかった点を修正。
○：複数回攻撃技で攻撃回数が多くなる（五月雨攻撃などで４回攻撃が出やすくなる）
?：どんな攻撃でも攻撃回数が多くなる
・陣形による「狙われやすさ」が表記通りでなかった点を修正。
・ラスボスの演出を強化。
・ラスボスの強さも変更。（ちょっと弱くなりました）
・ダンジョンでエラー落ちする問題を修正。
・マップチップを修正。
・ダンジョンの仕掛けを修正。
・データスロットにメッセージ追加。

[Vilkni]

One of these patch notes was to change

Spoiler:

Star Platinum's passives so that his double action passive no longer works on getting double last words. Actually, it was changed into making multi-hit moves hit with more hits, which is a stupid change considering they could've just disabled Last Words from getting the passive.

The spoiler was one of the reasons for the craze that caught many communities on fire and made them fawn over said shikigami in the first place, considering that its passive worked ON EVERYTHING YOU DO, though, but this change is still kind of disappointing. Then again it was completely broken considering how powerful the

Spoiler:

chasers

themselves were, though.

However...

Spoiler:

-Effects strengthened (especially for promotional Shikigami)
-Fixed the bugs with Star Platinum's Special ability
Correct: Multihit moves will hit more times
Incorrect: All actions will hit more times.
-Fixed the issues which could cause the target priority gauge not to display in the formations menu.
-Last Boss AI improved
-Last Boss strength altered (A bit weaker now)
-Fixed the problems with CTDs in dungeons
-Adjusted the Maps.
-Fixed some dungeon mechanisms.
-Added a message to the data slot.

[GigaOne5]

A quick question if I may. I feel as if I have looked everywhere on the second plane and I can not for the life of me find the hookshot. Anyone have some instructions on where I can find it?

[RegalStar]

Finished the first stratum. The music in this game is completely gorgeous so far. Hope it keeps up.

[Saber Nero]

Hookshot's in Muenzueka on the far left side.

[RegalStar]

I'm pretty sure I've explored everything in Makai on the side that connects Makai 1 and Makai 3 and found that there's still a part of it that I cannot access no matter what. Is there a different entrance to this place that leads to a seperate part?

[Pesco]

How many shikigami are we supposed to be able to get on each of the strata?