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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #660 on: December 31, 2011, 10:33:28 PM »
Sucks, at least justice was served. Wouldn't that guy get banned from voting though? can you ban that location?

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #661 on: December 31, 2011, 10:43:09 PM »
Sucks, at least justice was served. Wouldn't that guy get banned from voting though? can you ban that location?

I was thinking about it, but there's other people who vote from the same network who DIDN'T cheat, so I decided not to.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #662 on: January 01, 2012, 12:41:51 AM »
So unbelievably happy! I was just sulking in the shower a few minutes ago.

Anyways, time to vote for Remi, even though it won't make a difference.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #663 on: January 01, 2012, 02:39:20 AM »
Only one thing to say about this.


Oh N(o)uuueeeee.

I mean, spite voting is one thing, but cheating is just.... eugh.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #664 on: January 01, 2012, 12:58:51 PM »
Disappointing  :derp: ... And here I thought that Nue managed to actually beat Flandre. Oh well, at least the cheater is caught  :flamingv:.
This round is as good as finished this time though. After a hard time voted for Star, mostly because of actually moe apperance and her pranks being less annoying than Remi's personality.
And for the following round... I don't even have to say it, do I  :V? Kogasa is freaking tailor-made to be moe - her backstory asks for a hug. That, and I kinda support Sanae x Kogasa, so I hope she'll fight hard for her too  :derp:.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #665 on: January 01, 2012, 01:22:31 PM »
I'm still sore about this next matchup, as I wish they both could win, but I've thought about it and talked it over and we're in agreement.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #666 on: January 01, 2012, 02:11:12 PM »
Ok I was really hoping to get my drawing done in time here, but time restains and the lack of being able to stay awake are two evil things:

I'm a bit surprised by the turn of events regarding Nue, but oh well, cheating is not exactly the best way to achive victory since your likely the one who will loose in the long run. Remillia already won the match, so let's move on:

Round 45: Battle of the Umbrellas

Kogasa Tatara vs. Yuuka Kazami

Kogasa Tatara

Pros: sky blue color scheme, hetrochromia eyes, appealing legs, adorably cute appearance, Karasara umbrella, catchphrase "Urameshiya!", woobie youkai status (for her constant habit of being picked on in UFO and 10 D), pity victim (because of how she's often treated by the other charters that bully her in particular routes [especially Sanae B!]), sad backstory, determination to improve (which she [sort of] succeeds in by 10 D) and ":P"

Cons: Ugly umbrella, some people don't like characters who seem to across weak and pitiful

Yuuka Kazami:

Pros: Flower motif, plant lover, Red /white color scheme, "Youkai Moe", Saditic nature (for those into that kinda thing), refined mature appearance, brutal character, beautiful umbrella, anti-moe appeal

Cons: Saditic personality make her a possible turn off, "Youkai Moe" because ZUN's definition of it a bit hard to really define here,

Advantage: Kogasa

This is a rather fun fight that's up ahead because we have 2 youkais that both carry umbrellas, one who is constantly picked on by others and is a "newbie" in the world of youkais, while the other is a flower loving sadistic bully who loves to beat the crap out of anyone who messes with her plants.

Kogasa ever since she first appeared on the scene of UFO has made a massive popularity following that had constantly grew at a rather fast pace, which is kind of odd for charters that appear later in the series, but it has clearly shown that Kogasa has managed to brake new boundaries in character appeal ever since she first appear. And how did this happen? Simply, the fact that ZUN basically came up with right design for the right character, in the right situation, with there right background story.

Kogasa is mainly popular for a number of factors: Her very unique design, in which she appears in a sky blue colored outfit which fits her character, followed with her hetachromia eyes that are an all time first for a Touhou character to have which in a way play on the concept of her Karasara nature (since it's suppose to have 1 eye) so why not give her two eyes with different colors. Then give her a nice flowing skirt that allow for her legs to be shown with beauty. Then add in an umbrella to represent who she is, a sad background story about her being an unwanted umbrella, make her constantly fail at her job as a youkai yet give the determination to "never give up", make her a subject of being bullied by the main heroes, make her say "Urameshiya" as her catch phrase and finally ":P" (you can't avoid the factor this icon is ADORABLE!)

Kogasa simply radiates with moe all over the place, and is why she has such a strong fan base, mainly for beautiful design, her great lovable character and the fact you'll likely feel sorry for her simply because she's always been subjected to being picked on. Thus her woobie status in Genosokyo.

She is be definition even by some people by the fan base as "true youkai moe"

The only weakness Kogasa really has to her design is her umbrella and her woobie status which can be potential turn off for some.

Yuuka on the other hand is kind of a unique polar opposite of Kogasa. She is a mature and refined woman by appearance, who have a love for plants, but under that, she's a brutal monstrous bully who will rip you apart if you dare touch her plants.

She is the type that comes across as the "don't judge a book by it's cover" type character, since despite how she may appear, she is rather sinister. It kind of an odd thing really.

ZUN even describes her as being "Youkai Moe" which is also kind of odd giving she kinda of doesn't come off that way. But I'm guessing the reason ZUN makes this statement is because of the following:

Like I mention before, she looks beautiful, refined and well mannered, and has a love for flowers. This give off a very moe aura to her, but approach her in the wrong manner and she will literally rip you apart without hesitation. This is because deep down she's a reminder that Yuuka is a youkai after all, a very beautiful one, but a monsterous murderous side to her. Thus why she is "Youkai Moe"

If there's any way to really describe Yuuka that actually gives her a fair shot at this, it's that she is "anti-moe" which on it's terms can be turned into a moe attribute. Because some people find this appealing, she is bound to get points by some just for the fact she comes across as a rather polar opposite of moe.

Also she has a very lovely umbrella when compared to Kogasa, almost gives her a refined gentle appearance. (yes I said "almost")

But yeah this is my summary of how I think the deciding factors will play out today in the fight.

More or less it a matter of what you want, a delicious moe umbrella that simply just radiates with moe all over the place and that you can feel sorry for, or a youkai who is more anti-moe by nature, but in terms make it moe on it's own accord.

My vote: Kogasa

Simply because of all the things I mentioned above since I explained about it in deep detail. She really does come across as extremely moe and if the fan base has shown proof of anything, she has done nothing but grown in popularity since day one. That's all I have to say here.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #667 on: January 01, 2012, 03:03:53 PM »
Actually, I'd say that Reimu A was way crueler towards Kogasa than either Sanae, but I'm not complaining about the pairing. And I'd rather vote on the moe that actually means cuteness instead of a pun on "budding".

Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #668 on: January 01, 2012, 03:53:04 PM »
Yuuka vs. Kogasa? If I didn't know it better, I'd say that was intentional.

Yeah, no real choice here. "Youkai Moe", that has that title just because of a pun and is otherwise lacking in moe traits VS. "Youkai Moe", who is genuinely moe. It can only be Kogasa.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #669 on: January 01, 2012, 04:00:10 PM »
The new year's just begun, and it starts with the most epic youkai moe matchup ever.
The only unfortunate thing about this is that it's not even the quarter finals yet.

Ironically, I will not be surprised if Kogasa wins this time.
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« Reply #670 on: January 01, 2012, 04:13:35 PM »
Well, I'm glad Flan won; now we have both Scarlet sisters. :D
As for this round... I'm sure Kogasa will win. It's a shame that Yuuka's fanon personality has become so pervasive that it is accepted as canon. Both of them are very moe to me, so this won't be an easy round to decide on. I'll probably vote for Yuuka, if only because I know she'll lose.

Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #671 on: January 01, 2012, 04:34:36 PM »
Even though Yuka is one of my favorite characters - I voted for Kogasa. Canon or not, I think she is more moe.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #672 on: January 01, 2012, 05:28:44 PM »
Hmm Remilia didn't win by as much as I'd expected.

Voting for Kogasa, not surprisingly . Her color scheme is much better than Yuuka's.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #673 on: January 01, 2012, 07:06:54 PM »
Hmm Remilia didn't win by as much as I'd expected

Only 112 votes so either new years took away all the voters or people just knew Remi would win and didn't bother to vote.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #674 on: January 01, 2012, 07:11:40 PM »
Yuka

Canon moe > fanon moe

Though canon Kogasa is pretty moe too.

But still Yuka

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #675 on: January 01, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »
I don't find Kogasa to be that cute, sorry to say. 'Not really sure why, maybe it's her colour scheme. I like her vest though. Overall though I just don't like her character, which may have something to do with her being the only UFO character who has no importance and her bland spell attacks.

Going for Yuuka this round since she was a sleepy moe at some point~
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #676 on: January 02, 2012, 11:36:06 AM »
FUCK! Why did I wait until now to hear this?

On a lighter note: Gonna play Touhou 4 while I wait :V
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #677 on: January 02, 2012, 01:54:42 PM »
Ok, Kogasa's pretty much won by a landslide vote compared to Yuuka. She's pretty much had this in the bag. So good going little umbrella, you survived another round just by being what your are : Moe. :P

Let's move on to the next round:

Round 46: Fist of the Dragon, Roar of the Tiger

Hong Meiling vs. Shou Toramaru

Hong Meiling

Pros: Green / red color scheme. Devoted to her job as a door guard, loyal, strong-willed martial arts fighter, colorful danmaku, Not exactly very bright on some occasions, looked down upon by most of the rest of the SDM staff, (To some extent in canon, expressed heavily with Sakuya in fanon) great comic relief character in general (both canon and fanon)

Cons: Her air headedness may make her seem lacking

Shou Toramaru

Pros: Stripped hair, Tiger, Loyal to her master, Spear Weilder, companions with Nazrin

Cons: Feels a bit bland and cliched to other characters, except for her status of being the disciple of Bishamonten thing....

Advantage: Meiling

I don't think much needs to explain here.

We're looking at a character who actually has a fulfilling role as being very serious, very funny, and being moe all at the same time just because of it! And she's up against a tiger that.... really comes out to be really bland.... she seems to be there only cause she "serve Byakuren" and works with Nazrin. Not much can I say expect that Shou has some nice hair, but that's about it....

That's why I'm going to say here and now the Meiling's going pretty much win this match hands down. Being because despite her role being a door guard of the SDM, she has shown to be very interesting in her character as she has always come across and both vital and funny. Because of Meiling's switch from being a completely serious fighter to an air headed foolish door guard, she has a lot of moe appeal in this apartment. It's a wonder why ZUN didn't push for her revival in sooner. But regardless, we know that because she comes across and both a skilled fighter, and a total buffoon that those appealing reasons are why she really stands out as a crowd fave among some fans of the SDM.

So yeah, my vote's going to Meiling.

I'm more curious how she will handle herself is she's pitted against her own staff (which say could very likely happen!)
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #678 on: January 02, 2012, 02:10:58 PM »
Yeah, the EoSD cast has been unbeatable, except Cirno I guess but she was eliminated by another EoSD character. Meiling can't lose this, and she's got my vote.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #679 on: January 02, 2012, 02:11:13 PM »
Let's go Meiling! It's your year after all ;)

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #680 on: January 02, 2012, 02:20:17 PM »
I just have to wonder how a tiger youkai ended up in japan in the first place.


Also, I'll be voting for Meiling mostly because of of that song (Danbooru Ad Warning) and the fact that I don't like Shou at all.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #681 on: January 02, 2012, 02:59:30 PM »
Round 46: Fist of the Dragon, Roar of the Tiger

Hong Meiling vs. Shou Toramaru

I demand a Touhou remake of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Yeah, I don't think Shou has a chance in this match-up.
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« Reply #682 on: January 02, 2012, 04:34:55 PM »
After thinking this for a while... Meiling got my vote.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #683 on: January 02, 2012, 05:29:41 PM »
Yeah, the EoSD cast has been unbeatable, except Cirno I guess but she was eliminated by another EoSD character.
Rumia lost to Koishi, and Suwako also beat her that round.
Akyuu also got more votes than Cirno i the round she was eliminated in.

This is yet another match I don't really have a preference in, I'm indifferent to a lot of the characters (as in, I like most of the characters but a couple I like more than that)

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #684 on: January 02, 2012, 06:30:59 PM »
Rumia got a rough bracket :<

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #685 on: January 02, 2012, 06:35:02 PM »
Tbh I think Meiling is the least moe out of the SDM...that said I'm voting for her anyways.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #686 on: January 02, 2012, 07:11:50 PM »
Sophie on the SDM's moe:
Patchouli > Flandre > Kana > Sakuya > Meiling > Koakuma >>>>>> Remilia

If we want to include those other two EoSD bosses Cirno would be between Kana and Sakuya and Rumia would be below Koa.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter to me who wins this match.  They're just gonna get eaten next round anyway (unless they face Aya)
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #687 on: January 03, 2012, 12:14:02 AM »
Alright, I'll be the one to ask.

... Kana?
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #688 on: January 03, 2012, 12:24:30 AM »
Just one of the many insane things I think about Gensokyo.  Unlike most of them, I actually posted about this one once.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #689 on: January 03, 2012, 02:02:08 PM »
Meiling pretty much FUS ROU DA'd her way to victory here. That was almost a given....

Now comes a more interesting match:

Round 47: The Dog Days of Autumn

Momozi Inubashiri vs. Shizuha Aki

Momizi Inubashiri

Pros: Tengu, Wolf, Inumimi (fanon turned canon), sword fighter, Dependable (thought not entirely if you take DS into consideration) black/white color scheme

Cons: Still somewhat lacks in some development despite her build the comics (SOP and recently in WaHH), DS also brought her more vicious side into the surface (proving she she and Aya don't always get along)

Shizuha Aki:

Pros: Autumn theme, Red / yellow color scheme, leaf based dress, leaf based hair ornament , sister complex, simply being the underdog (memetic)

Cons: No daialouge and barely any character build leaves her very empty for potential growth

Advantage: Momizi

This is kind of a no brainer battle since the Aki sisters really lack in room to really grow. Especially since this is the older who is in the battle front to stand up for her defeated younger sister. Momizi on the other hand has had more screen time, and more development on several levels, from both the manga and games. Though her role is a bit limited since she's still pretty much being a spy for Aya or a like/hate relationship. But yeah at least she has more character build to her and also the fact that her dog ear while originally were fanon did seem to become canon material which is acceptable for her White Wolf theme she has going for her.

So she actually has a serious upper hand here...

However...

There is a chance I can see fan base backlash in this match, especially since Momizi took out a major character in the previous match by one vote. And yes I'm referring to Marisa here. I don't think the fan will sit down for this one very easily so I could see Momizi actually having a challenge here. So really for the advantage I should be saying:

Advantage: Even

Cause I see this could go in either direction, it's a matter of how the fan base votes, will they vote based on moe? Or vengeance?

As for me? Shizuha Aki just barely stands out over Momizi despite her severe lack of character. Why is this? Simply because Shizuha represent a nice artistic representation of Autumn and some reason always gave me a relaxed feeling looking at her. Momizi has come across a bit pushy these day mainly for her constant like and hate relation with Aya. Though she may be cute, I kinda feel put off. So yeah a colorful dress and a autumn feel grabs my attention more....

Voting Shizuha

Will we see fan base backlash here? We shall see...
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