Author Topic: Magical Madness Mafia Day 5! (Read 37321 times)

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #720 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:51:53 PM »

LLD's case coming out of no where took me by surprise. it's bad, bad, but I can't tell if it's scummy.
I don't think Capt.H not hammering Dormio when he had the chance is as much of a town tell as LLD is trying to push that it is. At the same time, I don't think scum would take the effort to try and flip her reads backwards in Lylo, so I still have a town read on her.

The part that caused me to think of a Dormio/Capt.H scumteam being the most likely possibility yesterday was, again, his post 179 where he felt the need to comment on Dormio and Dan, along with the two town wagons. I'm still not convinced his explination behind it is the full truth, since there was virtually no case on Dan at the time, and only two votes. The fact that both opinions don't say one way or another if they're town or scum feels like he forced those opinions out just so they'd be there.

The reason I voted Capt.H yesterday was because he was the one I was least certain about. If Capt H was town, I was sort of hoping that the remaining scum would forget about this post entirely and quicklynch him. In all honesty, Capt.H wasn't in danger of being lynched.

I've already explained why I didn't use my timestop earlier, and I don't have any better reasoning for it.
And since it matters so much to you, I'm a Townie Time Traveler.

I agreed with Dan's case on Polaris because, well, I thought Polaris's actions that day were bad. His jokevote post really did look like he had more reasons than he let on to vote HW, and he basically just called Dan scum because That's what he Dan claimed to see. Polaris basically looked like he was spouting bullshit. Polaris was also my top pick for the consolidation lynch.

my 610 was just me solidifying my reads. Even if everyone had put stock into the Chaore lynch, I still would have read his day 2 to be very much like it would if he was the doctor. I suppose I can't really prove that's how it would have happened.

Also, I checked back on the wagons yesterday, and serious, look at this post. If I was scum, then Capt.H would be the mislynch needed to win, right? At this point, LLD was voting Capt H, I was voting Capt H, Choare was about to vote Capt H with the slim hope of convincing Affinity to hammer. Since Dormio was scum, if Chaore had voted, Dormio would have hammered, and the game would be over. Why would Scum!me try to switch the wagon over to Dormio? For town cred? The game would have been over.

Affinity · « **Reply #721 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:14:41 AM »

While the justification for your capt.h vote seems okay at first glance due to your role, it doesn't hold up. Firstly, even though Bardiche had been informed of a Akemi Homerun in this game, you had absolutely no reason to claim that role yesterday if you planned to goad scum into quicklynching a townie in the first place and reset the day. Secondly, from what I see, Bardiche only knew that you had a time stop and not the reset, so also had no reason to claim the latter either. Trying to hope that scum will forget your role is a little silly in my opinion.

As for the 'if I was scum' thing, the main event regarding you yesterday was not your unvote of capt.h, but rather, your vote of capt.h over Dormio in the first place, which was not explained. Why capt.h over Dormio? If you were more sure about Dormio being scum, you should have voted him.

Lexicat · « **Reply #722 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:19:22 AM »

Ok cool, I've seen enough reactions to do this.

I'm POSITIVE Zakeri is scum, and that Capt.H is the only other option. Affinity's posting makes him ultra town.

I am a Townie 1-Shot Day Vig. Unfortunately, when I shoot, it ends the day.

I'm going to TAKE FATE INTO MY OWN HANDS and END THIS GAME.

Obliterate: Zakeri

If Zak's town, good game scum team, but I'm certain he's scum.

PX · « **Reply #723 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:26:12 AM »

<1> This is a game. I hope that you have fun. In return, I ask that you not have your fun at the expense of the other players in this game (in other words, don't be a jackass). Repeated or extreme violations of this rule will result in replacement or modkill.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #724 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:27:36 AM »

Umm, Let me try this again.
I submitted my reset command in PM. It only works when I PM the Mod, and when I no longer want it activated, I can PM again to have it deactivated before the day ends.

yeah, I admit I botched up when I claimed my whole role in thread, but I had submited the reset at the same time I voted Capt.H. If Capt.H was lynched before I came back, the deadline would have reset and all the votes would have been removed. Not only that, but whoever quicklynched would have been stuck sitting there with egg on their face. If no one quicklynched, then like it was pointed out yesterday, Scum would have been one of Myself, Capt.H, or LLD.

That's the reason why I voted Capt.H. It wasn't because I thought he was more scummy than Dormio. It was, in fact, mostly the opposite - that I was less certain. It was also partly because he was the only one I could set up for the quicklynch. My role allowed me to set up dual wagons in Lylo with almost no repercussions.

Well, I guess some repercussions, because now I look scum as hell until I can prove my role.

Oh wow, well, nevermind then. I guess I just lost town the game.

Affinity · « **Reply #725 on:** September 28, 2011, 02:05:16 AM »

@mod: Has the game ended? Was LLD's vig real?

PX · « **Reply #726 on:** September 28, 2011, 02:09:23 AM »

Game is still going. ~48 hours until deadline.

Lexicat · « **Reply #727 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:07:01 AM »

Quote from: Affinity on September 28, 2011, 02:05:16 AM

@mod: Has the game ended? Was LLD's vig real?

Of course it wasn't real.

But... you bothered to ask?

capt. h · « **Reply #728 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:38:55 AM »

Very surprised to see Affinity telling Zak he should have lied during the mass-claim.

I notice that Zak is a lot more specific about his role than he was when he first claimed, which I find kind of suspicious or at least odd.

Quote from: WHMZakeri on September 24, 2011, 12:56:27 AM

I also have a power called Reset. I can send in the PM whenever I want, and when the day ends either due to deadline or lynch, instead of going to the next night phase, it goes back to the current day phase. I wasn't told exactly what would happen if I used the power.

I want to confirm the reason you seem to have a much more detailed description of your claim now than you did then.

In addition, who do you want to lynch today?

Affinity · « **Reply #729 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:47:17 AM »

Zak should have lied if he wanted to carry out the quicklynch bait gambit, capt.h. Not lying makes it too ineffective for me to believe him.

As for fakevigs, PX's sudden and somewhat uncalled for posting of his rules seemed pretty weird. Was just checking.

capt. h · « **Reply #730 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:55:42 AM »

Quote from: Affinity on September 28, 2011, 03:47:17 AM

Zak should have lied if he wanted to carry out the quicklynch bait gambit, capt.h. Not lying makes it too ineffective for me to believe him.

As for fakevigs, PX's sudden and somewhat uncalled for posting of his rules seemed pretty weird. Was just checking.

Interesting.

Truth be told, I still have a nagging suspicion of you, and it banks on whether you as scum would take the bait Zak offered or if you would be wary of it and superbus Dormio for the "safe" win. Since your outright telling me that Zak's roleclaim was too ineffective to work as a gambit, then I'd assume you wouldn't fall for it, which makes the "2 boxes" dichotemy you were pushing yesterday false.

I still think Zak is the scummiest player here, but I don't think we should leave stones unturned.

Affinity · « **Reply #731 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:08:40 AM »

Yeah, on second thought, it seems that the 'box' thing is really ineffective now due to Zak's roleclaim. Come to think of it, that makes Zakeri's 'reset' roleclaim tremendously anti-town in a way, since what should have been a closed rooms has been opened by this public information. This is even considering Bardiche who revealed that he only knew that Homura had the 'time stop' ability, not the reset one. To be honest, I'm not so sure who else I could have the heart to lynch today in view of this.

Lexicat · « **Reply #732 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:28:18 PM »

If we lynch Zakeri, couldn't we use his Delay night akipping power to give us another lynch if he's town?

If he's scum, he's lying about it ANYWAY. But if he's town this is perfect.

In any case, I can't see myself voting anyone else today.

Vote: Zakeri

PX · « **Reply #733 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:48:02 PM »

"Objection!"

Music

The Thirty Third Overruled Votecount!
Zakeri (1) - Lady Lambdadelta

Not voting: Everybody else

Day 5 ends in 43 hours.

PX · « **Reply #734 on:** September 28, 2011, 08:50:01 PM »

Previous votecount timer is wrong.

Day 5 ends in 29 hours

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #735 on:** September 28, 2011, 09:05:31 PM »

well, My role says the day resets, so either the person doesn't get lynched, and day restarts, working as some sort of psuedo-governor shot, or the lynch actually does go through and we get two lynches. the second one didn't actually even occur to me, but if it's true, it'd be a lot more helpful than I previously thought.

I've sent it in, now, so since we're going to be testing my role anyway, go ahead. I have mod confirmation that it works on myself.

##FoS: Capt H since these might be my last words. My town read on Affinity and LLD have grown stronger since the day's progressed.

Affinity · « **Reply #736 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:18:21 PM »

I guess it will at the very least give us something. Might as well take the out if Zak is really town.

##Vote: Zakeri

capt. h · « **Reply #737 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:50:50 PM »

Welp, the biggest thing that bothers me about Zak today, concerning his role, is that it seems like he's updating it as he goes along and I find that scummy as heck. Since he claims the day will reset when we lynch him anyway this seems like a good time to test his claims. It also looks like he's pretty much given up, which is bad. Giving up isn't necessarily scummy (and nothing compared to updating your role claim with new information in every post), but I don't like to see it.

I'm guessing that LLD and Affinity are done talking for the day. If Zak's telling the truth then same rules as today - no voting for the first 48 hours.

##Vote: Zakari

PX · « **Reply #738 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:00:43 AM »

Lynch has been reached.

PX · « **Reply #739 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:00:56 AM »

And thus everyone once again...

And so everyone watched Dormio melt. And then they noticed something weird.

"Chaore, why aren't you wearing pants?"

After an awkward silence, and a lot of bickering and arguing, they managed to get Chaore to wear a skirt. Unfortunately, his skirt exploded.

Chaore, playing Strike Witch Yoshika Miyafuji (Strike Witches), Townie Doctor, was killed during the night!

It is now Day 5!
Day 5 ends in 72 hours.
With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Town is in Pseudo-Mylo!

A new rule has been added!

3 Townies and 1 Mafia remain alive!

PX · « **Reply #740 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:01:41 AM »

Everyone has a right to pursue a happy life.
The difficult part is to be given that right.
Everyone has a right to pursue a happy life.
The difficult part is to fulfill that right.
I too have a right to pursue a happy life.
The difficult part is to work out a compromise for that right.
~ Frederika Bernkastel

Music

The Thirty Second Dear You Votecount!

Not voting: Everybody

Day 5 ends in 72 hours.

Chaore · « **Reply #741 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:07:59 AM »

Quote

<Chaore> baaaaa- wait a moment
<Keine-tan> What? And stop sheeping to me.
<Chaore> This has happened before. KEINE. WE'RE IN A TIME WARP.
<Chaore> GET THE DELOREAN, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE FUTURE.
<Keine-tan> ...
<Keine-tan> Still hate you.

Lexicat · « **Reply #742 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:13:37 AM »

... there was no flip.

Lexicat · « **Reply #743 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:16:43 AM »

Fuck it, I'm lynching Zakeri.

Vote: Zakeri

Yes I know I can't unvote again. I'm not seeing myself voting anyone else right now.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #744 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:38:11 AM »

"Zakeri was lynched, he was the Townie Time Traveler"
Fuck you, PX. Apparently, I'm the only one who gets to witness the day end flip.

I don't like how Capt.H Is trying to push the "Updating role information" point. I don't think I've ever claimed anything other than that my reset power would reset the day. I did say that Capt.H probably wouldn't have been lynched, but that was just a guess based on how the ability was suppose to work. I didn't think I'd actually get the flip, or else I would have claimed day 2.
Edit: And mega fuck. Would it be possible to ask for a no lynch?

Ahh forget it. Vote: Capt.H I don't care about this game anymore.

Lexicat · « **Reply #745 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:52:22 AM »

Look, I've resigned myself to the fact that if it is Capt.H, then I managed to talk myself out of the lynch based upon pure paranoia and that I need to sleep for a long long time.

PX · « **Reply #746 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:53:21 AM »

Zakeri has been modkilled for breaking Rule 4. Game is over, Town wins.

PX · « **Reply #747 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:54:47 AM »

QQ now. Set up coming up ~~when I bother~~ soon.

Lexicat · « **Reply #748 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:56:38 AM »

Well... that was gonna happen either way.

... did I just go 3/3?

J.O.B · « **Reply #749 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:57:39 AM »

Um. That was an interesting end.