Author Topic: Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over (Read 54763 times)

Skull · « **Reply #600 on:** August 21, 2011, 12:42:00 AM »

Vote Analysis confirmed Reg Shoe to be scum.
Your defense, Shoe?

DiEnd · « **Reply #601 on:** August 21, 2011, 01:00:52 AM »

Excuse me for a moment while we enact our Youmu and Myon dance.
YOU'RE THE BEST AROUUUUND! NO ONE'S EVER GONNA KEEP YOU DOWN! ヽ(；▽；)ノ

You wash out your mouth with soap skull face zombie boy!

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 20, 2011, 11:54:31 PM

So does that mean Bathory was third-party?
What does Count mean by shelved?

Third party shows up as yellow. I think it means her flip was blocked. I'm much more annoyed at our vig who killed Ayumu because

while you and Bogmire are still alive. I'm assuming shelved means he thinks you should be dead. Mostly because I think you should be dead.

Have we mentioned how much we want Bogmire dead lately? Remilia is edging to a close second. Actually it's time for one of those charts that I know people hate and will be completely impossible to read on this blue background!

Shiba Kukaku ~~Obvscum Voter~~
Youmu Konpaku - EYE'M THE STRONGEST!
Pamela Ibis - Besides being super townie town, if she'd put her vote down for Bathory, Bogmire would have been 'forced' to hammer someone who is probably town. We think this should be enough for the rest of you to leave her alone today.
Sid Barett - Similar reasoning except way earlier on the wagon. We don't like him as much as Pamela, but there isn't a lighter lighter green color.
Munak - Just from a vote observing perspective, being third on the not-scum counterwagon and putting your fingers in your ears whenever someone brings up another case is kinda a thing, but.. well, I'd rather just see what our jagaimo shi has to say for today. Your targets are pretty much denied forever.
Reg Shoe - He might have started the other wagon, but there's something authentic about the way he pursued Bathory and wouldn't let go. Super Tunnelly Vision seems more like something town would do when the evil dead should have chickened out and abandoned ship. He's definitely on the list of people who need to explain themselves today and tell us who the scum are now. Cuts are telling me
Remilia Scarlet - On the other hand hopping onto other people's town wagons is super easy, especially when most of your content of the day is spent asking the confirmed town vote what you should do. So who are the scum and what do you think of people today, Remilia? We are Not Happy With You and want to see more of your own inner thinking.
Bogmire - Have I Mentioned I Want Bogmire Dead Today? Because we want Bogmire dead today. Everything about his vote was stalling, from seeing which wagons would pick up to waiting and seeing if anyone believed Mean Scum Girl's claim and trying to make it sound reasonable. No, really. Tell us some more about how we're obvscum, Bog Monster.

##Vote: Bogmire

The words Vote Analysis already make my head hurt in anticipation after yesterday.

DiEnd · « **Reply #602 on:** August 21, 2011, 01:05:52 AM »

EBWOM: Cuts are telling me other people feel more strongly about this color.
I think I need a stronger drink. <.< No, like coffee, what did you think I was having today?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #603 on:** August 21, 2011, 01:40:01 AM »

Just one question before I start. How long till LYLO assuming always a mislynch and 2 scum left? How long assuming 1 scum lynch and the rest mislynches?

In response to Youmu:
I kinda agree with your list in terms of who goes where (except I'm obv town). But I would put Munak as a bit more townie.

I'll try making one of those lists.
Remilia Scarlet: Obv town.
Pamela Ibis: Had a bad start at D1 but looked much better throughout the game.
Youmu Konpaku(+Myon): Like Pamela had a bad start(but lasted longer) but is looking better as the game goes on.
Sid: Started the game with a whole lot of tunneling but is so much better now.
Munak: The way the posts are done is a bit confusing for me too but that's not too bad. A bit of tunneling looks kinda suspicious. I think Munak could do with explaining herself a bit.
Reg Shoe: He is really starting to look worse as the game goes by. Plus he doesn't seem to have that much activity. He really could do with some explaining too.
Bogmire: Bog is so Obvscum now. I know I said he was looking town early D3 but now I can finally see what is so bad with his posts. I completely agree with what Youmu said about his vote. Lynch him now!

DiEnd · « **Reply #604 on:** August 21, 2011, 02:03:13 AM »

^ See, the thing is it's hard to understand WHY you feel these ways. Why is Sid better to you? Why is Reg Shoe suddenly worse to you? What do you see that is so bad about his posts? It literally looks like you're only saying these things because I said them first.

If there are two evil dead, we only have one mislynch left. If there's only one left hiding,we have two.

DiEnd · « **Reply #605 on:** August 21, 2011, 02:04:18 AM »

EBWOM: What do you see that is so bad about his posts? <--- The he refers to Bogmire, by the way. MORE DRINKING!

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #606 on:** August 21, 2011, 02:31:34 AM »

Quote from: Youmu Konpaku on August 21, 2011, 02:03:13 AM

^ See, the thing is it's hard to understand WHY you feel these ways. 1.Why is Sid better to you? 2.Why is Reg Shoe suddenly worse to you? 3.What do you see that is so bad about his posts? It literally looks like you're only saying these things because I said them first.

If there are two evil dead, we only have one mislynch left. If there's only one left hiding,we have two.

1. Sid has stopped tunneling as much as he used to and he has a broader view which in turn makes him have more contribution to everything in general.
2. I can't quite put my finger on it. But what Sid mentions is definitely a valid point. My brain says possibly town while my gut says possible scum. So I don't really know.
3. The last sentence in the paragraph applies to this. I saw what you said about Bogmire and I finally saw why it was so bad. I find that when I play mafia, I don't exactly pick up on everything instantly, so when that happens, I need someone else to point me in the right direction.

Also there is something I can say that covers all three of those questions. "Don't forget that this is only my second game. I still don't exactly know what is scummy and why."

Also, thanks.

OOO · « **Reply #607 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:10:19 AM »

Master... You seem different...

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Munak is, evidently, a complete failure at this game.
Even so, Munak is still going to maintain her stand in not liking miss Pamela or miss Youmu.
But Munak will hold this to herself for now.

Munak's well-fed gut says that lady Scarlet is unlikely to be aligned with the scum.
Munak's head tells Munak that lady Scarlet should die in a fire for waffling, AtE, parroting, and lack of opinions in general.
Munak is more inclined to go with Munak's head, rather than Munak's gut.

Munak wants to see the response form corporal Shoe.
Munak does, however, think that Mr. Barett has a good point in his #596.

Munak supposes that she can see the case on Bogmire.
Munak hasn't reread Bogmire or corporal Shoe properly yet.
Munak will try to do these soon.

If anybody has questsions for Munak, shoot.

Faiz · « **Reply #608 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:13:01 AM »

~~NO, I'M THE STRONGEST!~~

@Remilia : I'm going to call you out about once again not voting the so called "obvscum"

Once is shame on me. Twice is shame on you.

I'm not sure if "shelved" means immediate lynch, Youmu. I find that shelved is closer to putting away to look at another time. But this would lead to pointless arguing. Going to need Count to clarify in his next Haiku.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #609 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:25:27 AM »

Oh fuck. I forgot to vote. I was going to do it but :memory:
##Vote:Bogmire
Sorry about that.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #610 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:27:45 AM »

RULE SIX, SERIAL HERE!
Touhou maybe for vig call,
I mean dead by 'shelved'.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #611 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:29:34 AM »

Oh, and another thing.

Quote from: Youmu Konpaku on August 21, 2011, 02:03:13 AM

If there are two evil dead, we only have one mislynch left. If there's only one left hiding,we have two.

Does this count NK's? Or are scum not allowed to NK before LYLO?

Halloween Alice · « **Reply #612 on:** August 21, 2011, 04:41:56 AM »

Morning everyone.

I finished reading Mean Ghost Girl. What stood out the most upon reread is her interactions with Remilia. While Mean Ghost Girl was perfectly happy voting Youmu and Bathory for being terrible, MGG had a tendency to simply write Remilia off as newbtown.

Quote from: Mean Ghost Girl on August 15, 2011, 07:36:18 PM

Sid spends an awfully large amount of effort attacking Remilia. She's an easy target, being new, and the thing is that many of us here have already expressed that we find Remilia's posts to be pretty town looking... terrible, of course, but town-looking. Battering her about this to improve her isn't really a bad thing, but Sid kept on her over voting anyone else for a frown-inducingly large amount of time.

As a result, I went into Remilia's posting history. She was (as we know) voting for Bathory at the time of Mean Ghost Girl's lynch. The vast majority of her play yesterday was filler in an attempt to interpret Kukaku, and she didn't make any cases, or even say anything about anyone after voting for Bathory fairly early in the day. Furthermore, she has said virtually nothing about MGG yesterday or indeed all game in spite of MGG being the lynch:

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 18, 2011, 06:00:53 AM

I had a strong town read on Mean Ghost Girl for most of D1 but she is getting worse as the game goes on. I still think she is most likely town though.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 19, 2011, 06:43:20 AM

As you guys should know, I have been sick lately. So I haven't been keeping up to scratch as well as most of you. I'm a bit better now though.
First of all, I too think MGG and Bathory should claim very soon. But one question first (directed at everyone).

If Bathory's vote hadn't been blocked, do you think MGG would've been hammered already?

Also, someone (can't remember who) mentioned MGG avoiding wagons, how exactly was she avoiding them? Was it with her votes or her posts?

Basically, MGG had a town read on Remilia in spite of admitting Remilia was terrible and the fact that he went after players for being terrible (Bathory, Youmu), and Remilia barely said anything yesterday with her primary content concerning Mean Ghost Girl being a statement that both confirms a town read on Scum Ghost Girl while waffling on the player at the same time.

I find Remilia highly suspicious at this time.

##Vote: Remilia Scarlet

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #613 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:00:29 AM »

The reason why I didn't say much concerning MGG was because I didn't know what to say. On initial reading, MGG looked fine enough to me. On a reread, She still looked fine enough. It obviously didn't click that someting was wrong. I still don't really know what is wrong or what is right when it comes to mafia in general. Plus MGG must've picked up on my newbtown status. Because I am newbtown I swear. If I was around for the end of the day, given the fact that a Bathory lynch probably wouldn't have ended up happening, I probably would've unvoted and waited for Bog to hammer.

To be nice to all of you, if at the end of the day you guys are undecided on who to lynch. I will offer myself as a mislynch. But it will have to be at the very end of the day because I don't want to force you guys into LYLO with not much info from D4. This does not mean I have given up. It's more that I won't be useful at all during LYLO and I might cost you guys the game due to my mistakes. So it's more of a strategic move if anything.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #614 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:02:50 AM »

Just to clarify that.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 21, 2011, 05:00:29 AM

If at the end of the day you guys are undecided on who to lynch. I will offer myself as a mislynch.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 21, 2011, 05:00:29 AM

But it will have to be at the very end of the day because I don't want to force you guys into LYLO with not much info from D4.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #615 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:36:54 AM »

Actually, change it to "If at the end of the day, you guys don't think that the supposed lynchee is scum". In other words I'll offer myself if you guys don't have a definite scum.

Skull · « **Reply #616 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:44:57 AM »

People don't want consolidation lynches.
People want confidence.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #617 on:** August 21, 2011, 06:18:47 AM »

Think of it more as a last resort lynch.

DiEnd · « **Reply #618 on:** August 21, 2011, 07:47:02 AM »

Now now, don't fight. You can both be scum.

Remirya: I hate to break it to you but if we decide we want you buried another six-feet under we're not going to care if you're okay with it or not. Why would we be trying to lynch someone we don't think is scum? Mrr. Itchy vote trigger..

Bog Monster: Seeing as she's the only person as red as you I'm not surprised you noticed how bad Remilia is. Seeing how you don't want to push yourself as a zombie, what do you think of the rest of the group? Don't be shy now. We want to hear all your thoughts on zombies.

Jagaimo shi: If you have a reason for maintaining your stand, do share it. We don't have to fight every time, you know. :< Why exactly were you so adamant in not looking at Mean Scum Girl at all? Gonna wait on those reread too.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #619 on:** August 21, 2011, 08:00:37 AM »

I'm just saying. Is all.
Though if you are town(directed at everyone). You would definitely think about lynching me before LYLO.

OOO · « **Reply #620 on:** August 21, 2011, 01:59:05 PM »

Master? What's wrong? Master?

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Munak wonders what the hell mistress Scarlet is doing.

Munak was adamant in not looking at Mean Ghost Girl?
The wagon came up late in the day and Munak could not find the time to reread, and therefore Munak stuck with her preferred scumpick.

Munak's dislike of miss Pamela and miss Youmu?
Munak does not believe that anything has really changed with Munak's cases in regards to them.
Munak is laying off for now because Munak has some thoughts about the two that Munak needs to get sorted out in Munak's head.

Munak wonders why Bogmire would simply write someone off like that.
Munak wonders what caused Bogmire's change of heart that made Bogmire see mistress Remilia's behavior as scummy instead of newbtown.
Munak notes that, in Bogmire's #87, Bogmire represented corporal Shoe and Bomire admits as much.
Munak notes that Bogmire's entire D1 content consists of waffle and not much more.
Munak notes Bogmire's blatant hop onto miss Pamela when D2 begun after having not mentioned miss Pamela at all.
Munak notes that, in Bogmire's #342, Bogmire appears to be hedging Bogmire's bets by voting for miss Youmu for miss Youmu's suspicion of flipped townies whilst throwing suspicion onto Mr. Ayumu.
Munak also notes that miss Pamela was not mentioned again until Bogmire's replacement came in to say that Bogmire's replacement could see why Bogmire saw miss Pamela as scum but does not follow up on it at all.
Munak notes Bogmire's attempts to defend Mean Ghost Girl in #429 and #439.
Munak wonders why Bogmire, in #486, feels the need to throw in a comment about Mean Ghost Girl at the very end.
Munak thinks that Bogmire was being rather defensive of Mean Ghost Girl when Mean Ghost Girl became a potential lynch, after having not mentioned Mean Ghost Girl at all.

##Vote Bogmire

Faiz · « **Reply #621 on:** August 21, 2011, 04:04:48 PM »

So apparently there is a Serial Killer about.
...and the Count has decreed,
from What I read,
The ones to die,
are a Shadow,
With a side dish of Vampire,
With an unintended but questionable Phantom topping?

...I fail at this...

Anyways, I read Count's haiku as telling us to lynch Remilia and Bogmire.
With Youmu as a nightkill target, or Third Party Serial Killer.
Afterall, only Touhou left besides Remilia is Youmu~

Y/N?

Halloween Alice · « **Reply #622 on:** August 21, 2011, 04:23:48 PM »

Well, I'm at L-2.

There is no serial killer.

I'm an Activist Vig. I get one additional kill for each phase that passes without a kill. Unfortunately, I can't kill 2 nights in a row. After the No lynch day 1 old Bogmire got a kill, which I used on Necro Gardna Night 2. I believe both kills last night were committed by scum, and should be treated as such.

DiEnd · « **Reply #623 on:** August 21, 2011, 04:33:27 PM »

I'm not entirely sure I believe you, but here is what's gonna happen. IF BOGMIRE IS NOT THE VIG, DO NOT CLAIM, REAL VIG. Instead, you shoot him in the face tonight. We're not lynching Bog today, so let's move to lucky winner number 2, Remilia!

##Unvote, ##Vote: Remlila Scarlet

DiEnd · « **Reply #624 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:06:58 PM »

Girls are thinking, please wait warmly until the questions are ready~

Bogmire: I don't think you had any posts before that night phase, so I have to ask. Why did you kill Necro Gardna?

Munak: Adamant in not looking is probably the wrong wording, but our Spell Card started against Mean Scum Girl early and it never seemed like you were willing to give it the time of day. What do you think of Bogmire now?

Sid: I read it as Count asking someone to vig Remilia, but your translation makes sense, not that it matters now since we have a claimed killer. I hope you didn't believe it because it would be silly.

Kabuto · « **Reply #625 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:07:29 PM »

##Unvote
##Vote: Reg Shoe

Faiz · « **Reply #626 on:** August 21, 2011, 05:32:26 PM »

Quote from: Youmu Konpaku on August 21, 2011, 05:06:58 PM

Sid: I read it as Count asking someone to vig Remilia, but your translation makes sense, not that it matters now since we have a claimed killer. I hope you didn't believe it because it would be silly.

Silly never did mean impossible~
Afterall third parties are pretty hard to find from what I read.
Unless your someone who JUST can't handle it. :V

@Bogmire: Your claim is pretty hard to buy.
N1 > (1) Arcuied
N2 > (2) Necro Gardna, Count von Count.
N3 > (2) Elizabeth Bathory, Ayumu Aikawa

Your claim of getting Kills per no kill phase is seriously false. I see no reason for you too have gotten a kill to use on Necro Gardna.
Afterall, there was a kill every night. Unless its scum specific. It still shows that there is a possible 3rd party.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #627 on:** August 21, 2011, 06:16:49 PM »

Bogmire (2) - Remilia Scarlet, Munak
Reg Shoe (2) - Sid Barett, Kukaku Shiba
Remilia Scarlet (2) - Bogmire, Youmu Konpaku

Not voting: Pamela Ibis, Reg Shoe

You have 50 hours remaining. With 8 votes active, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

DiEnd · « **Reply #628 on:** August 21, 2011, 06:24:20 PM »

Hrm, so, I kind of see what Sid is saying. What I don't see is a vote for Bogmire if he truly believes that. Sid, you believe Bogmire to be SK and there's no vig, right? Therefore, Bogmire dying would reduce the number of anti town kills, right? So...may I ask why you aren't voting Bog?

Den-O · « **Reply #629 on:** August 21, 2011, 06:55:15 PM »

Quote from: Sid Barett on August 20, 2011, 11:16:28 PM

Mean Ghost Girl > Claims to have forgetten about Reg Shoe existing.
Reg Shoe > Claims Mean Ghost Girl very forgettable.
Coincidence???

Also, considering Mean Ghost Girl's role was voteblocker. The fact that Reg Shoe dismissed Elizabeth's vote as worthless has much more meaning to me.

What flipped scum says about anyone is silly WIFOM. What I've said about Mean Ghost you can see and judge for yourself.

I started Day 3 fully believing Elizabeth to be scum. If the person I believe to be scum is prevented from being able to influence town in some way, I will consider it a good thing.

Quote from: Pamela Ibis on August 21, 2011, 12:42:00 AM

Vote Analysis confirmed Reg Shoe to be scum.
Your defense, Shoe?

What is your point? I think my vote has been explained each time I made them.

Quote from: Remilia Scarlet on August 21, 2011, 05:00:29 AM

The reason why I didn't say much concerning MGG was because I didn't know what to say. On initial reading, MGG looked fine enough to me. On a reread, She still looked fine enough. It obviously didn't click that someting was wrong. I still don't really know what is wrong or what is right when it comes to mafia in general. Plus MGG must've picked up on my newbtown status. Because I am newbtown I swear. If I was around for the end of the day, given the fact that a Bathory lynch probably wouldn't have ended up happening, I probably would've unvoted and waited for Bog to hammer.

I think everyone is going to be tired of asking you 'Why?' after all your posts. You had an excellent mentor for your first game. There's no excuse to claim newb by this stage. If Elizabeth's lynch was still tied, why would you unvote and let someone else hammer the other wagon? It's all the more suspicious that you would stall the scum wagon by doing that.

Quote from: Bogmire on August 19, 2011, 01:34:13 AM

We are not lynching mean ghost girl because of process of elimination, without any actual case. Much like I asked Youmu, I request that you make a clear case on Mean Ghost Girl that examines her posting history for scummy behavior, and consolidates the reasons you think she is scummy into a single post.

However, I would also be interested in why you think Munak is scum. Frankly, I haven't been getting any scummy vibes from her, and I would be very interested in seeing that case. That's why I have trouble taking Ghost Girl's "defense" of Munak as evidence against Ghost - I don't see the case on Munak.

The vote switch stalling at the end of Day 3 is obvious for all to see. This defense of Mean Ghost when the votes were tied needs to be explained. Bogmire's next posts call for claims. I had pointed out at the time that L-1 would be needed to make such a demand of players. Along with the fact that the viable lynches were already determined, Bogmire's refusal to vote earlier left him free to go onto either wagon to swing the lynch when Town gets desperate.

Quote from: Bogmire on August 19, 2011, 07:16:16 PM

Youmu, your obvscum. Bathory is the one I'm not sure about. You've been pressuring people to vote for the players you want to lynch on emotional grounds for two days now, and the cases are bad mentality is scummy as heck because it requires town to rely on gut reads.

Where has this gone? If it has changed, why?

Quote from: Bogmire on August 21, 2011, 04:23:48 PM

There is no serial killer.

I'm an Activist Vig. I get one additional kill for each phase that passes without a kill. Unfortunately, I can't kill 2 nights in a row. After the No lynch day 1 old Bogmire got a kill, which I used on Necro Gardna Night 2. I believe both kills last night were committed by scum, and should be treated as such.

The only thing that is certain is that there were two kills on Night 2 and Night 3. The doctor was still alive on Night 1 and could have made a successful protect. Even if you do have a killing power, there's no reason for us to believe what your usage conditions are.

Of Remilia's posting and voting history, I have not seen a single thing with backbone in it. Every day's vote has been a votepark and when asked for reasons, it's been 'I agree with X'. There is nothing useful to quote.

##Vote Bogmire