Author Topic: Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over  (Read 54764 times)

Skull

  • Skull
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #420 on: August 17, 2011, 10:42:51 PM »
I did not need this added to the mix.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #421 on: August 17, 2011, 10:44:11 PM »
##Vote: Pamela Ibis

Faiz

  • Faiz
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #422 on: August 17, 2011, 11:01:18 PM »
Hurray Minus points, finally I get some of those.

Lets see...So apparently you believe to have 4 Town reads.
Anon
Youmu
Likely-town Remi,
and Yourself.

Am I correct?

Sid's questions for us have been slightly nitpicky and we'd like him to consider he's keeping this stance because he just doesn't like us. Sid, what do you think of Mean Scum Girl and Bathory right now?

The case Youmu?
I'd like you to post it.

Sasword

  • Sasword
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #423 on: August 17, 2011, 11:06:58 PM »
Elizabeth.  Why is/was voting for pamella the equivalence of a scumclaim?
If you already answered this, please link me to it.
Kinda a thing.


So if you are responsible for the Elizabeth vote shenanigans, you have a chance to come forward now without repercussion. If you wait until later I cannot extend this offer.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #424 on: August 17, 2011, 11:08:19 PM »
Sid, how am I suposed to believe you're reading the game if you don't notice we already answered you. Also that wasn't an answer to the question.

Decade

  • Decade
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #425 on: August 17, 2011, 11:10:07 PM »
I also just noticed one of you're reasons I'm scum is because 'everyone is saying Youmu is scum'. That sounds like scummy sheep mentality. Who cares what everyone else thinks? What do YOU think?
That's not a reason you're scum, I was just bringing note to the fact that Pamela is like the only one who doesn't think you're scum, which was more related to Pamela then my case on you.

Also, okay, I understand what you were saying now. The PR thing was the main thing I had been frowning at, because I was wondering how you would have known about either of their powers, but I can see now that you meant Pamela's.

There's nothing wrong with the "Cases are Scummy" school of thought. It's a valid conclusion, but it needs to be done properly.
 
Needless to say, Youmu is "doin' it wrong".
Okay, maybe it can be done well! I haven't seen it happen, but I won't deny it. But yes... Youmu is "doin' it wrong", in either case.

This is a wonderful scum post. You're searching for easy targets. First you drive a wagon on the player who is inactive (and sick D:).
 
Then when you see another opening, you hop onto that wagon based on what... she said Cases are scummy?
 
No, your failed opportunistic stance is scummy. Sorry Vote: Mean Ghost Girl
Hi, nice misrep followed by a misrep. I've been driving the case on you since DAY ONE. This isn't new in the least! And not only are you inactive, your posts aren't good either. For example, these ones. You've been gone so long and almost the only scumhunting you have to say is an OMGUS on me built off of misreps?

The other scumhunting is... oh hey, speaking of easy targets, your only other scumhunting would be on the derp player. Once again, your case on someone (in this case me) almost seems to apply more to you then it does to the intended target.

Your other misrep is the reasoning I jumped onto the Youmu case. It's like you haven't even read my other posts before the one I voted Youmu. I would have voted her earlier, but I had no idea how many votes were on her due to the very small amount of votecounts this game, so I waited. I voiced this displeasure as well.

In other words, you still need to die and I really wish I could vote you and Youmu at the same time.

also AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
* Mean Ghost Girl points and laughs at Elizabeth's vote.

Cut by ROLEFISHING. Do we need to have a talk about why rolefishing is bad?

Sasword

  • Sasword
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #426 on: August 17, 2011, 11:15:30 PM »
No, but we can talk about how taking someone's vote away is bad.
And while we are at it, let's go over how you appeal to majority is moot and not a valid point against anyone.

Ouja

  • Ouja
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #427 on: August 17, 2011, 11:18:13 PM »
Kinda a thing.


So if you are responsible for the Elizabeth vote shenanigans, you have a chance to come forward now without repercussion. If you wait until later I cannot extend this offer.

Because Pamela is townier than thou.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #428 on: August 17, 2011, 11:23:44 PM »
##Vote: Pamela Ibis
##Unvote

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #429 on: August 18, 2011, 12:30:12 AM »
Sorry for the wait, let's gobble some ghosts.

Bathory: I think she is likely to be scum. I don't know why her vote doesn't count anymore. Town action? Scum gambit? Who's to say except the player that's actually responsible. However, her new content is simply awful. Yesterday:


Scum:
 
Kukaku
Necro
Youmu
 
There you go. Scum team nailed, GG.

Today:

Youmu is town based on interactions, Remila/Ghost are new scum picks.

She flipped her reads on their heads, and has at no point in the game provided evidence or arguments in either direction concerning Youmu. I want to know what about Youmu's interactions makes you think she's town now, or at least townier that Remilia and Ghost. I also want to know why you thought Youmu was scum yesterday.

Youmu:

On the point of cases: Cases are good. Cases are the basis for gut reads, and players that don't give cases leave terrible feelings in my gut. They force players to look into each other's histories and draw conclusions from their actions. Furthermore, by analyzing the cases players make on each other, us townies can get a clearer idea of what they are thinking, as opposed to only seeing simple-minded accusations based on gut. Even if the final conclusions are ultimately reached due to gut, it is far easier to got read a player that makes cases than one that doesn't.

On the point of not giving town/scum information: I understand your hesitance to tell town information, but please understand town's hesitance to act on information you haven't given us.

Now, your play has been highly reactionary today, and I'm having a hard time reading your scum picks You currently have a vote on Mean Ghost Girl.

##Vote: Mean Ghost Girl[/b]No, no you can't. You never bothered to comment on yesterday's lynches, why did you think you could get away without making an opinion on me today? What 'suspicious things' did you start noticing that you only bring up after Kukaku's dashing sacrifice? Why do you like Sid more after a case on someone you aren't voting for? It worries me how much your content has dropped off the deep end since Day 1. I suggest you pick up the slack again. I would threaten to send you back from whence you came but neither of us can figure out where you're from.

Mean Ghost Girl has picked up the slack today, so do you think she's still scum? Is there anything you dislike about her new content? Also you had suspicions of Bathory; in the context of her lurking through the early part of the day and her new cases, are you more or less sure that she is scum?

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #430 on: August 18, 2011, 12:54:33 AM »

Another Votecount Please
 
If my vote is still crossed out, then Ghost is conf. scum~
Why don't you try voting someone else to see if it's still crossed out?
New Bogmire is looking very good so far. As is New Ayumu.
And Kukaku, if you think Bathory is scum then vote me.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #431 on: August 18, 2011, 12:54:56 AM »
Filler for Kukaku.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #432 on: August 18, 2011, 12:55:59 AM »
Oh wait. Three separate players. Nevermind that filler.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #433 on: August 18, 2011, 01:23:56 AM »
Bogmire: You know Bathory just answered the question about why she thought I was scum yesterday when I asked it? It's not hard to read her posts, there are maybe ten of them all game. This is what we didn't like about the old Bogmire, and I'm finding I like you less for the same reasons. You're floating around the main wagons and taking content from other people to look like you're questioning and being pro-town. I'm insulted you call us reactionary for trying to start a wagon on someone the rest of you want to blithely ignore in favor of too loud, too absent or too cute to live. Especially when your opening vote is because we've been attacking you. Even the comments about cases got brought up by Meanie before you. Cases are for the transient people, and I'm only half-transient!

As for picked up the slack, I disagree. Actually, there's one thing I really want her to answer, in light of her reaction.
also AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
* Mean Ghost Girl points and laughs at Elizabeth's vote.

Cut by ROLEFISHING. Do we need to have a talk about why rolefishing is bad?
So are you or are you not claiming to be the voteblocker, Mean Scum Girl? No takebacks. If you're not, we'd like to know what it is about a missing vote on someone you're no longer voting as scum makes you burst into hysterical laughter for. This kind of blatant reaction is horrible no matter the answer to the question.

I don't claim to know what goes on in the heads of the ungrateful dead. I know the person it looked like Bathory would be tunneling against (me) would be town. I think her alignment would be much clearer to me after we lynch the scum waving a bright red banner screaming HELLO I AM SCUM in front of me.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #434 on: August 18, 2011, 01:32:51 AM »
##Vote: Pamela Ibis

##Unvote

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #435 on: August 18, 2011, 01:35:20 AM »
So does that mean you don't think Bathory is scum? If so, vote me.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #436 on: August 18, 2011, 01:40:15 AM »
Nah, we can do twenty questions better then that. Okay so you still hate Pamela. What do you not like?
If you don't like her role and how she used it, vote Sid Barret.
If you think Sid is town and don't like her case on him, vote Reg Shoe.
If it's something in a specific post she made today, press 1vote Remilia Scarlet.

If you think Bathory is town, follow your vote with an unvote.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #437 on: August 18, 2011, 01:45:34 AM »
If you hate Pamela for other reasons than the ones mentioned by Youmu then vote Ayumu.

Sasword

  • Sasword
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #438 on: August 18, 2011, 02:28:44 AM »
And this is here for flower crane cannon #2 to play 20 questions.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #439 on: August 18, 2011, 03:02:25 AM »
In response to Youmu:


Interactions with Kukaku. Thought you guys were distancing/bussing.
 
But Kukaku is town SO.
 
Also, my votes been blocked. ^-^

Is this in any way an acceptable reason to suspect you were scum yesterday Youmu, taken alone?

Bussing is an attack used when two scummy looking players attack eachother, not as the assuption upon which you select scum. I do not think Bathory saying that your interactions with Kukaku are scummy if Kukaku is scum and town if Kukaku flips town is a sufficient explanation.

In addition, Youmu, I said your play was reactionary today because you have spent more time directing town, explaining why Pamela is town without telling us the details (yes we know it's because of your neighborizing, but since we can't see the quick topic, well...), telling us that gut is good, etc. than you have actually spent pursuing your scum reads and continuing your cases on them.  It's a weird case to follow, so I'll summarize my understanding of your case. Then I would like you to restate your case on Mean Ghost Girl in full.

In summary:


##Vote: Mean Ghost Girl
No, no you can't. You never bothered to comment on yesterday's lynches, why did you think you could get away without making an opinion on me today? What 'suspicious things' did you start noticing that you only bring up after Kukaku's dashing sacrifice? Why do you like Sid more after a case on someone you aren't voting for? It worries me how much your content has dropped off the deep end since Day 1. I suggest you pick up the slack again. I would threaten to send you back from whence you came but neither of us can figure out where you're from.

To which Ghost responded:

Sure I commented on them. Yes, it's true I didn't really make out a beautiful, elaborate case on Kukaku (whom I didn't need to actually vote, but I suppose I did throw my support at that lynch), but I did a read on the other choice (Along with every single other person in the game I -think-, at the least I've covered this by now) whom came out as town and the small comments on Kukaku simply listed him as "worse".

You were suspicious because it was being brought up around then how much your posts relied on force and wording to push lynches without actually providing much reasoning for them at all, along with other small details. People today have been making more indepth cases on you until the matter has become practically talked to death, like Bathory, who was much easier to talk to death because she hasn't made a real post in forever.

And finally, your most recent case is:

As for picked up the slack, I disagree. Actually, there's one thing I really want her to answer, in light of her reaction.So are you or are you not claiming to be the voteblocker, Mean Scum Girl? No takebacks. If you're not, we'd like to know what it is about a missing vote on someone you're no longer voting as scum makes you burst into hysterical laughter for. This kind of blatant reaction is horrible no matter the answer to the question.

I would like you to clarify this case for me. It's rather confusing at a glance because it's very aggressive and it's hard to identify whether there is substance beneath it or whether it's a flurry of hot air. Simply explain exactly what you find scummy, clearly, without being abbrasive, about Mean Ghost Girl in the context of her actions in a single post.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #440 on: August 18, 2011, 03:29:30 AM »
##Vote:Remilia Scarlet

##unvote

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #441 on: August 18, 2011, 03:52:30 AM »
If the post you didn't like was post number 339 then vote me again.
If it was number 351 then vote Sid.
If it was number 359 then vote Ayumu.
If it was number 360 then vote Bogmire.
If it was number 412 then vote Reg Shoe.
If it was number 420 then vote Pamela.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #442 on: August 18, 2011, 05:36:14 AM »
C'mon you guys. Post more so we can get some information from Kukaku.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #443 on: August 18, 2011, 05:50:10 AM »
The Count has it easy, all he has to do is post a haiku. >.>

Let's not let questions distract the rest of the zombies. Sid, I would seriously like you to come back and answer my question please, since I've answered yours, and especially in light of the current shenanigans. Remilia, similar question, what do you think of Ghost Girl right now?

Is this in any way an acceptable reason to suspect you were scum yesterday Youmu, taken alone?
Looking at it objectively, no. If Kukaku was my buddy.. well first of all he probably wouldn't have tried to stop a town wagon like that. From the perspective of Shiba/Necro/Youmu scumteam, all the last minute vote fight would have done is made a bunch of townies stare suspiciously at me for scum calling me out for no reason. It's kind of a simplistic way of drawing reads. Scummy guy A is chainsaw defending Scummy guy B from Person C therefore Person C is scum? Since the inquiry is here, Bathory can perhaps explain further how this works out.

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In addition, Youmu, I said your play was reactionary today because you have spent more time directing town, explaining why Pamela is town without telling us the details (yes we know it's because of your neighborizing, but since we can't see the quick topic, well...), telling us that gut is good, etc. than you have actually spent pursuing your scum reads and continuing your cases on them.
I find this to be a weird statement in the face of:
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I would like you to clarify this case for me. It's rather confusing at a glance because it's very aggressive and it's hard to identify whether there is substance beneath it or whether it's a flurry of hot air.
So is it reactionary or aggressive? These stances don't make sense together. I don't think it's possible to passively pursue someone anyways. Explain what you are referring to by directing town please. Considering how both of us were becoming lynch material, I felt bringing the role to the surface was the best for both of us, and that I owed someone an explanation. <.< And gut is good! >=[!

But we find at least the last request reasonable, and possibly productive in getting you all looking at our target. Everyone is such a nice short read in this game.
In simple terms. Go back to the end of Day 1. Mean Scum Girl leaves the Ayumu wagon (with something like 11 hours left in the day) and votes Bathory (someone with 0 votes on them) for tunneling on Kukaku and says
Now, honestly, I don't really see the connections you're making with your first two sentences and why they're scummy. I went back and looked over Kukaku's previous posts and didn't find the things you were accusing him of doing to have happened in any scummy manner.
Ghost Girl thinks Kukaku is town and Bathory is scum, yes? Day 2 comes along, many people are angry and calling out Kukaku and Necro, yes? She votes Bathory again, defending Kukaku's actions further. But on Kukaku himself, even though her vote is based around him being town, Mean Scum Girl can't be bothered to take a stance. She says Kukaku looks better in this spat even though she hasn't reread Kukaku but hopes that the wagon will shift onto Kukaku instead of Necro Gardna because she 'thinks she remembers lots of people saying they didn't like Kukaku'.
So let's look at this vote logically. If she hasn't reread Kukaku and has no read on him, why has she been pursuing a vote on Bathory based around attacking him? The reason that pops into my head is Wagon Avoidance. It's easy to keep the same stance on someone you know isn't going to be noticed for the first few days and not get caught up in the wagonic chaos as scum. (Fun and profitable!) As early as possible, Meanie gets off the wagon she's been pushing for three days, on the day it finally becomes viable, to pursue me the moment I attack her. So no. I don't think she's picking up the slack. I think she's just getting ready to take advantage of the next two patsies to fall.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #444 on: August 18, 2011, 06:00:53 AM »
I had a strong town read on Mean Ghost Girl for most of D1 but she is getting worse as the game goes on. I still think she is most likely town though.

OOO

  • Taka! Kujaku! Condor!
  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #445 on: August 18, 2011, 06:20:14 AM »
We are almost in the same state, master, being dead and all...

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Munak is posting here to avoid being hit by a cattle prod.
Munak will be back sometime.
Hopefully sooner rather than later but Munak will see.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #446 on: August 18, 2011, 06:27:41 AM »
##Vote:huh what

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #447 on: August 18, 2011, 06:39:20 AM »
Kukaku stop trolling>_>

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #448 on: August 18, 2011, 07:00:47 AM »
It's kind of like none of the above, isn't it? Speaking of huh what, a votecount with updated times would be nice.

OOO

  • Taka! Kujaku! Condor!
  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 3
« Reply #449 on: August 18, 2011, 07:02:08 AM »
No! Master! Stay AWAY from the light!

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Miss Pamela cheerleading the Kukaku Shiba wagon is still a thing that Munak is holding onto.
Lady Bathory defending miss Pamela for no reason is still a thing that Munak is holding onto.
Lady Bathory's continued defense of miss Pamela is a thing that Munak has noted.
Lady Bathory's assertion that there were 3 scum on day 2 before we had even had any flips is still a thing that Munak is holding onto.
Miss Pamela's general D1 behavior is still a thing that Munak is holding onto.
Lady Bathory's general D1&2 behavior are still things that Munak is holding onto.

Miss Pamela's defense of miss Youmu in #412 has been noted.

Munak is currently undecided on miss Youmu but Munak believes that miss Youmu is more likely to flip a red color than a green one.